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Of course they weren't fake, time to uninstall

Ezorus
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[removed bashing comment]I only just came back for Elswyr, to find the likes of grim focus ruined and has no value on my skill bar. Aswell as snipe taking a 25% NERF (it was a bit op but now tickles). However if all these nerfs make it to live I'm CANCELLING my eso plus and uninstalling... Every ability I used and is key to many people's builds are getting increase cost, reduce damage or changed so its ***;
Onslaught - was only picked for ultimate reset, is now a weak DB
Flawless Dawn Breaker - is picked for passive buff and ult points are saved for back bar
Camouflage hunter- only reliable way for NBs to get minor berserk cause you f* up focus (attacking from flank isn't possible in most pvp fights)
Rally - was our best heal meaning we didn't have to take vigor
Vigor - burst healing is needed not longer healing
Grim focus- not sure why anyone still uses this a dps build but is weaker again
Summon shade- a greak escape getting a double cost, sod us stam blades
Stamped- another lost snare
Poison injection- was the only good ranged execute now is the weakest execute overall
Scatter shot- wasn't long ago they buffed the range to make it inline with other bow abilitys, now decreasing range? Bipolar much?
Werewolf- wtf is up with this increasing the costs of everything and reducing the heals, its weak sustain and squishy af to use already

[removed bashing comments]
Edited by ZOS_JesC on July 7, 2019 4:39PM
  • susmitds
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    Guess you got too used to easy mode :#
  • wolf486
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    I'm not making the mistake of uninstalling again, only because I've never seen a game that takes so long to install. I have plenty of hard drive space, I'll leave it for now even though I have little interest in playing it anymore. And that has nothing to do with the nerfs, just performance and overall being bored with it.
    PC/NA
    Moved onto BDO and GW2 Skyrim, ATS/ETS2, ACNH and the overall goodness of single player games

    RIP to the following:
    (DC) Tharbûrz gro-Glumgrog - Orsimer -Stamden (lvl 50)
    (AD) Vukz - Bosmer - Stamblade (lvl 50)
  • Hyperion616
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    Ah the salty tears of people who wont be able to get carried anymore, MORE MORE MORE!!!

    Change usually does.
    I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it.

    ~Edith Sitwell

  • DucLIX
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    [removed baiting comment]
    If one type of gameplay doesnt work, use another..
    That's almost all good changes for everything. Only ones that are triggered by this changes are the one that will be helpless without a premade build on youtube.

    adapt to changes.
    Edited by ZOS_JesC on July 7, 2019 6:32PM
    faster guys kill kill
  • Gronk
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    Ezorus

    This is the nature of the game. Changes in this game are like underwear. Not permanent thank rngesus ! What is posted has not even made it to the first iteration of the PTS. Be patient and try not to make any hasty conclusions.
    Old Guard since Jan 2014
    "Read more, Post less."
  • Crixus8000
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    you think onslaught is a weak db ? since all stam chars now have major evasion it means db will hit less, and onslaught hits an aoe, ignoring all res and then makes you ignore all resistance for an insane 16 seconds. this ult is so overpowered imo.
    Edited by Crixus8000 on July 7, 2019 1:28PM
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Wow, given all the 2H buffs and new shuffle, to qq from point of stamblade... :expressionless:
  • Tylersoh
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    [removed quote]
    I’m actually happy about the camo hunter change. It really isn’t hard to attack from the flank unless you’re getting zerged down. The Flawless Dawnbreaker change is a huge let down though.
    Edited by ZOS_JesC on July 7, 2019 4:40PM
  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    If we had that confortmist "just adapt" mindset ZOS would've gotten away with many terrible development decisions in the past.

    So the best suggestion would be to give PTS a try and don't stop giving ZOS your opinion.
    PC/DC/NAserver

    V16 sorc - V16 temp - V16 dk - V1 nb - V1 temp - V1 dk
  • DucLIX
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    If we had that confortmist "just adapt" mindset ZOS would've gotten away with many terrible development decisions in the past.

    So the best suggestion would be to give PTS a try and don't stop giving ZOS your opinion.

    ofc, if things some skills/passives have really bad changes you have to say it.
    But when it's good too.

    Personally all I see in this patch note is not bad. (maybe the healing changes, but cant say before we tested it)
    It will be a difficulty upgrade for PVE I guess, and less stupid things in pvp, like stamina chars that were really really overpowered compared to magicka ones.

    So before complaining all around the forums, just have some reflection. Don't say "that's *** i can't use it anymore", say "That doesnt work anymore? Then what will I change to make it work?"
    Edited by DucLIX on July 7, 2019 1:38PM
    faster guys kill kill
  • Ulfgarde
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    Ezorus wrote: »
    Rally - was our best heal meaning we didn't have to take vigor

    bruh
    Very athletic eso player
    PC EU
  • Neoealth
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    Just when you finally thought ZOS could not nerf your sorc shields anymore, why would they? After all they pop after one light attack now. *reads patch notes* :neutral:
  • SidraWillowsky
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    I main a stamblade (PvE)... the stam side of the NB class will be fine. For once I'm actually not worried about my precious stamblade. Magblade though... I don't actually know yet what'll happen, but I'm more worried about that.
  • Huyen
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    Seems 99% of the complaining is once again pvp...how mundane.
    Huyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, nightblade dps - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Lightpaw, templar healer - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, necromancer dps - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, dragonknight (no defined role yet)

    "Failure is only the opportunity to begin again. Only this time, more wisely" - Uncle Iroh
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    I was saving this for last... This patch notes are probably finally going to kill my love & joy in ESO... Not quitting yet, will wait for the final live version of those PTS... but still... never felt this bad... I am almost like this dude: :disappointed:
  • Sylosi
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    Huyen wrote: »
    Seems 99% of the complaining is once again pvp...how mundane.

    Seems to be plenty of PvE whining around forum, which given balance matters even less in that is even more "mundane".
    Edited by Sylosi on July 7, 2019 2:57PM
  • Thevampirenight
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    Not worth uninstalling what if you wanted to play again then you would have to go through that very long download so just keep it on your computers people. Also these changes people can live through them. People don't need to get over dramatic over it all.
    PC NA
    Please add Fangs to Vampires.
  • nuttytom
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    Next patch is looking great so far imo.
  • Stovahkiin
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    wolf486 wrote: »
    I'm not making the mistake of uninstalling again, only because I've never seen a game that takes so long to install. I have plenty of hard drive space, I'll leave it for now even though I have little interest in playing it anymore. And that has nothing to do with the nerfs, just performance and overall being bored with it.

    Oof, tell me about it. I *** you not, it takes a solid 4 - 5 days to download ESO from scratch with my internet. I live in central California and still have no choice other than to use satellite internet :\
    Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!
  • wolf486
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    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    wolf486 wrote: »
    I'm not making the mistake of uninstalling again, only because I've never seen a game that takes so long to install. I have plenty of hard drive space, I'll leave it for now even though I have little interest in playing it anymore. And that has nothing to do with the nerfs, just performance and overall being bored with it.

    Oof, tell me about it. I *** you not, it takes a solid 4 - 5 days to download ESO from scratch with my internet. I live in central California and still have no choice other than to use satellite internet :\

    Ok suddenly I don't feel as bad with the 4-5 hours it takes me
    PC/NA
    Moved onto BDO and GW2 Skyrim, ATS/ETS2, ACNH and the overall goodness of single player games

    RIP to the following:
    (DC) Tharbûrz gro-Glumgrog - Orsimer -Stamden (lvl 50)
    (AD) Vukz - Bosmer - Stamblade (lvl 50)
  • Stovahkiin
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    wolf486 wrote: »
    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    wolf486 wrote: »
    I'm not making the mistake of uninstalling again, only because I've never seen a game that takes so long to install. I have plenty of hard drive space, I'll leave it for now even though I have little interest in playing it anymore. And that has nothing to do with the nerfs, just performance and overall being bored with it.

    Oof, tell me about it. I *** you not, it takes a solid 4 - 5 days to download ESO from scratch with my internet. I live in central California and still have no choice other than to use satellite internet :\

    Ok suddenly I don't feel as bad with the 4-5 hours it takes me

    I’d kill (a mosquito or something) to go that fast 😠
    Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!
  • VinayExile
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    To be honest I'm amazed they spent so much time in these "balance" changes.
    And didnt adress any of the real issues in the game at all.

    Like

    - performance
    - tank meta
    - broken skills ( streak, shadow image, necro skills and much more )
    - broken mechanics in pvp like doors and sieges
    - gapclosers still not working for *** after 4 years
    - health desyncs
    - cp balancing

    Man this list could be miles long but you get my point.
  • ZOS_JesC
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  • drkfrontiers
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    Every time there's a change folks throw out the standard "I'll quit!!!"

    yet *yawn* they still here.

    Adapt or find another game. Those are your ONLY options.
    Edited by drkfrontiers on July 7, 2019 4:49PM
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