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Pet changes expected; shield changes will destroy sorc class in pvp

Illuvatarr
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Shields are pretty much donezo in non cp pvp (the only pvp that matters in my opinion; cp isn’t PvP, it’s a resource arms race in my opinion). This will put the nail in the coffin.

The pet changes, while expected, are overkill also as expected and just add insult injury.

The shield changes will make certain classic specs such as necro/lich which are reliant on jewelry enchants to work forced to spec all protective. Or forced to change to bright throat/necro and take a major sustain hit, furthermore, the pet heal nerfs unless this means one barring pets may force a change out of double Destro staff to restoration/inferno without the burst heal from the pet. I agree with the pet nerfs provided pets will now take one ability slot but the shield nerfs without changing bound aegis to last longer or another survivability ability equivalent in strength to cloak (such as ball lightning now absorbing bow projectiles) will severely hamper the classes survivability in pvp.

The shield changes suck pretty badly without keeping this in mind and I hope some additional changes are made as the class will now be back to square one with survivability issues. The constant nerfs are getting old and getting sick of throwing money at this game with this continual nonsense.
  • khajiitNPC
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    QQ

    I already know what I’m doing if the changes go through. Adapt like I always have. Still rocking it after every change. I have 18 max lvl toons — max and mag of each class, and 6 psijic of each class, surprisingly haven’t had to change much. I look at every nerf as a means to get gud.
  • ManwithBeard9
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    You should probably wait before natch potes are officially released before you start complaining/complimenting changes.
  • GeorgeBlack
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    Ye every time sorcs gets easier and easier to play. Dont worry.
    Besides if the class goes under after 5 years, why protest?
  • khajiitNPC
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    No need to wait. You either cry or adapt.
  • Illuvatarr
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    Hehe been adapting since beta:)
  • thankyourat
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    Sorc will always be fine in pvp because it has the best burst damage in the game with the best mobility in the game. Sorc defenses needed a pretty sizable nerf to balance this out
  • Lokey0024
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    Soooo, a half a light attack is going to kill a class. Shoulda told me earlier, I'd have used that sooner
  • templesus
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    Great changes ZOS.
  • SpiderKnight
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    Good, next they can bury ww builds that everyone denies are overpowered in BGs.
  • Savos_Saren
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    So... I need to make a sorc exactly how I already have him?
    Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.

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  • chris211
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    sorc needed/needs a hard nerf now its time for cloak and pirate skele to get the same treatment
  • Radiance
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    WHAT ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT!?! Getting all up in arms over **** that ain't even happened yet. Where can I find these patch notes? If it's not coming from ZOS then shut up!
  • Thevampirenight
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    Radiance wrote: »
    WHAT ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT!?! Getting all up in arms over **** that ain't even happened yet. Where can I find these patch notes? If it's not coming from ZOS then shut up!

    Given there was leaked info maybe its accurate or maybe it was not. Because of the situation that has unfolded the official scalebreaker patchnotes will be released tonight. The first time this has ever happened. And possibly the last time it will happen. Gino is working on them right now and I expect within the next hour or so they will be out. Heres the quote.
    They'll be posted tonight. On Saturday.

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    Edited by Thevampirenight on July 7, 2019 3:04AM
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  • Radiance
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    Given there was leaked info maybe its accurate or maybe it not either way because of this they are releasing the official scalebreaker patchnotes tonight. The first time this has ever happened. And possibly the last time it will happen. Gino is working on them right now and I expect within the next hour or so they will be out. Heres the quote.
    They'll be posted tonight. On Saturday.

    FlippantAgileAmericanwarmblood-small.gif

    I saw that. I detect Sarcasm... Ya know, bc They don't post on the weekends?
  • NBrookus
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    If the sorc/healing ward notes are real, it'll bring back one of my favorite mag sorc builds ever.

    Some people only ever see the nerfs and not the buffs.
  • Illuvatarr
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    NBrookus wrote: »
    If the sorc/healing ward notes are real, it'll bring back one of my favorite mag sorc builds ever.

    Some people only ever see the nerfs and not the buffs.

    In al fairness, didn’t read that part. Opened up a bottle of scotch and stopped at the end of the sorc section. Pets are too strong. Agreed on that point. Making the class unplayable serves no purpose however.

  • SirAndy
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    Patch notes are up. Same as the "leaked" version ...
    shades.gif

  • Master_Kas
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    Patch notes are up. Same as the "leaked" version ...
    shades.gif

    Now where's that guy that copy pasted his reply in diffrent threads yelling they are fake ?? :trollface: Lul
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  • Emma_Overload
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    I agree. The cost increase to Hardened Ward is obscene. Solo Sorc play against tough opponents (not potatoes) is going to be harder than ever.

    The only ray of hope in this cluster@#$% is the buff to Streak. We might be able to force enemies to eat a meteor/curse/frag combo again.
    #CAREBEARMASTERRACE
  • frostz417
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    Pet sorcs required 0 tbumbs.
    These changes are good. Now you have useful restoration staff skills that provide fantastic self healing and you’re no longer forced to run twilight heal. That being said, pet sorc zoo builds were pure cancer, nothing more obnoxious than fighting a sorc who has 3 pets and kites them all. While the pets do stupidly absurd damage and the user doesn’t even need to put in much effort since the pets do the work for them.
    This patch provides fantastic and needed buffs for non pet sorcs... the only good sorc that wasn’t pure cancer.
  • Seraphayel
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    From “Easy Mode” to “Still the best Magicka spec for PvP that requires a little more work”... cry me a river.
    Edited by Seraphayel on July 7, 2019 7:08AM
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  • Massacre_Wurm
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    Isnt sorc class was "destroyed" after first nerf to shields ?
    Edited by Massacre_Wurm on July 7, 2019 7:09AM
  • chaz
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    PvP is for people that cry and for cheats.

    If Zenimax wanted to make a PvP game, they should not have chosen a proven, established platform such as a massively multi storied RPG to do it in.

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  • david_m_18b16_ESO
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    I dunno. Pets are weaker so hiding behind them might not be an option ? Shields are nerfed you might still need flappy for the heals lol.
  • MaxJrFTW
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    Yeah, that's the point. When a class overperforms, it's nerfed until it's leveled with the rest. I fail to see the issue here.
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  • david_m_18b16_ESO
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    This patch provides fantastic and needed buffs for non pet sorcs... the only good sorc that wasn’t pure cancer.
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    Non pet sorc got nerfed hard.

    Liquid splash get a 40% nerf and maelstrom staff got nerfed too.

    If your talking about pvp well the minor dot buff wont be enough to make it for the shield nerf id say.
  • Seraphayel
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    Liquid splash get a 40% nerf and maelstrom staff got nerfed too.

    Every AoE DoT gets a nerf. Has nothing to do with Sorcerers in specific.
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  • Neoealth
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    Zos already nerfed sorc shields to the ground. Now they are going to bury them under the ground. Rip my main character.
    Edited by Neoealth on July 7, 2019 7:50AM
  • Demra
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Liquid splash get a 40% nerf and maelstrom staff got nerfed too.

    Every AoE DoT gets a nerf. Has nothing to do with Sorcerers in specific.

    Exactly, and also everybody and everything got nerfed. People have to look at the big picture, which is hard to see at the moment with all the changes. So you cant know if you really got nerfed or not.
  • Seraphayel
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    Demra wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Liquid splash get a 40% nerf and maelstrom staff got nerfed too.

    Every AoE DoT gets a nerf. Has nothing to do with Sorcerers in specific.

    Exactly, and also everybody and everything got nerfed. People have to look at the big picture, which is hard to see at the moment with all the changes. So you cant know if you really got nerfed or not.

    For Magicka they buffed

    Destructive Touch
    Scalding Rune
    Degeneration
    (Soul Trap)

    Single Target DoTs. Some were buffed a lot. I think nerfing AoE DoTs and buffing the ST ones was a good decision and opens new builds.
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