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Playing Templar in pvp is like playing in hard mode difficulty

  • david_m_18b16_ESO
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    Get the right set and dont play your temp like a sorc.
  • Delparis
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    Sergykid wrote: »
    magplar can be as strong as magsorc, the thing is magsorc has way more easier access to better result, while on magplar you have to put in much more effort into builds and playstyle to reach the same result a magsorc reaches much easier

    agree that's what i meant by hard mode.
  • Lord_Eomer
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    Delparis wrote: »
    Was playing a lot with my sorc last month, cheesing/stealing kills with my Mage's wrath and almost immortal thanks to my shields.
    Battleground become too easy so i tried going back to my templar. that was a bad idea.
    Guess what playing templar pvp is like playing hard mode difficulty, only for masochiste.
    *** this wracked templar class, only for healers and idiots.

    Magicka templar is easiest too for PVP but stam is harder and for exp players
  • Lord_Eomer
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    Delparis wrote: »
    Sergykid wrote: »
    magplar can be as strong as magsorc, the thing is magsorc has way more easier access to better result, while on magplar you have to put in much more effort into builds and playstyle to reach the same result a magsorc reaches much easier

    agree that's what i meant by hard mode.

    Mag Sorc are packed with Pets and powerful defensive shield and streak.

    While playing mag Tempalr make sure u have mist form for escape and thats all!
  • Delparis
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    Delparis wrote: »
    Sergykid wrote: »
    magplar can be as strong as magsorc, the thing is magsorc has way more easier access to better result, while on magplar you have to put in much more effort into builds and playstyle to reach the same result a magsorc reaches much easier

    agree that's what i meant by hard mode.

    Mag Sorc are packed with Pets and powerful defensive shield and streak.

    While playing mag Tempalr make sure u have mist form for escape and thats all!

    mist form need that you are vampire which makes you take more dmg.
    also vampire dmg are bugged atm as you take much more flame dmg.
    so forget about running vampire in bg
  • Delparis
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    when i switch to my sorc that's what happen vs a premade group

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  • LuxLunae
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    I begged my bro to party with me to kill trash mobs and lvl up my NB in a day....
    When I put the gear on I was pure trash at NB....I realized that even though I had the gears and CP. it takes time to actually LEARN the class...

    Then I did the same on DK....except...DK felt natural... soooo easy... it was what templar wish it could be...

    Anyways Stam NB and Stam DK are > stam templar...

    let's face it .. .all you have on templar is close range jabs... if you not jabbing you not winning...

    after zos ruined the sweep for stam users... I don't even use ultis...

    As a magicka templar you will need

    1. Jabs
    2. dual weild
    3. light
    4. sweep
    5. heal

    with this all you gotta do is

    throw on the light
    gap close with toppling charge or whatever
    Jab jab jab
    just before the light pops
    CRESENT SWEEP IN FRONT!!!

    BOOM!!

    they should die...

    I only say this becaue this is what I did on my stamina templar until zos straight up removed it and gave it to magica templars...I am lvling up a Altmer Templar as we speak...

    Staffs are for sorcs ...or fools...(except resto)_
  • ZonasArch
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    Delparis wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Delparis wrote: »
    Baconlad wrote: »
    I have been playing my magplar since summerset as burst and glass oriented. It's incredibly effective in BGs. But...I had to give it up after new update since flare nerfs hit too hard. So I swapped back to my puncturing sweeps setup. Pariah, pirate skelly, regen set. I missed those big burst heals from the other build. So I had a thought

    Playing my glass canon I REALLY got comfortable with horrible sustain and passive mitigation. So I swapped to full damage glass canon puncturing sweeps build. Its insanely effective.

    I run 740 regen unbuffed, 4.8k spell damage not including spell strategist and I'm able to put down BIG boy damage that makes all but the best duos *** themselves. I rarely zerg (although I am guilty...) mainly at resources or alone against multiple players.

    My advice is to drop all sustain, all defense, and learn to play with it. You will not regret it. It's the best way to really learn your classes defense, offense and opportunity windows for burst.

    Also...crescent sweep, its AMAZING. Dont sleep on it. 16k initial hits against poorly defended 810s. It's really a great class. Although I'm still salty AF about dark flare nerfs...

    you can't play pvp without sustain and defense. templars need to give up on dmg in order to do that where other class got that sustain and defense built in their skills:
    • sorc got shields for defense (skills)
    • nightblade got cloak (skill)
    • dk got dmg mitigation (skill)
    • warden get dmg mitigation and shield (skill)

    Rune focus...

    every other class got that major resolve and major ward skill

    Poi ting out that it's sustain and defense in one skill and if you stay inside your rune, it's 50% more resist buff. It's as good as any of the others., If not better.
  • Delparis
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Delparis wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Delparis wrote: »
    Baconlad wrote: »
    I have been playing my magplar since summerset as burst and glass oriented. It's incredibly effective in BGs. But...I had to give it up after new update since flare nerfs hit too hard. So I swapped back to my puncturing sweeps setup. Pariah, pirate skelly, regen set. I missed those big burst heals from the other build. So I had a thought

    Playing my glass canon I REALLY got comfortable with horrible sustain and passive mitigation. So I swapped to full damage glass canon puncturing sweeps build. Its insanely effective.

    I run 740 regen unbuffed, 4.8k spell damage not including spell strategist and I'm able to put down BIG boy damage that makes all but the best duos *** themselves. I rarely zerg (although I am guilty...) mainly at resources or alone against multiple players.

    My advice is to drop all sustain, all defense, and learn to play with it. You will not regret it. It's the best way to really learn your classes defense, offense and opportunity windows for burst.

    Also...crescent sweep, its AMAZING. Dont sleep on it. 16k initial hits against poorly defended 810s. It's really a great class. Although I'm still salty AF about dark flare nerfs...

    you can't play pvp without sustain and defense. templars need to give up on dmg in order to do that where other class got that sustain and defense built in their skills:
    • sorc got shields for defense (skills)
    • nightblade got cloak (skill)
    • dk got dmg mitigation (skill)
    • warden get dmg mitigation and shield (skill)

    Rune focus...

    every other class got that major resolve and major ward skill

    Poi ting out that it's sustain and defense in one skill and if you stay inside your rune, it's 50% more resist buff. It's as good as any of the others., If not better.

    are you joking ?

    really ?

    do you think templar should stay in the rune to get that 50% more buff ?

    you made my day
  • ZonasArch
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    Delparis wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Delparis wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Delparis wrote: »
    Baconlad wrote: »
    I have been playing my magplar since summerset as burst and glass oriented. It's incredibly effective in BGs. But...I had to give it up after new update since flare nerfs hit too hard. So I swapped back to my puncturing sweeps setup. Pariah, pirate skelly, regen set. I missed those big burst heals from the other build. So I had a thought

    Playing my glass canon I REALLY got comfortable with horrible sustain and passive mitigation. So I swapped to full damage glass canon puncturing sweeps build. Its insanely effective.

    I run 740 regen unbuffed, 4.8k spell damage not including spell strategist and I'm able to put down BIG boy damage that makes all but the best duos *** themselves. I rarely zerg (although I am guilty...) mainly at resources or alone against multiple players.

    My advice is to drop all sustain, all defense, and learn to play with it. You will not regret it. It's the best way to really learn your classes defense, offense and opportunity windows for burst.

    Also...crescent sweep, its AMAZING. Dont sleep on it. 16k initial hits against poorly defended 810s. It's really a great class. Although I'm still salty AF about dark flare nerfs...

    you can't play pvp without sustain and defense. templars need to give up on dmg in order to do that where other class got that sustain and defense built in their skills:
    • sorc got shields for defense (skills)
    • nightblade got cloak (skill)
    • dk got dmg mitigation (skill)
    • warden get dmg mitigation and shield (skill)

    Rune focus...

    every other class got that major resolve and major ward skill

    Poi ting out that it's sustain and defense in one skill and if you stay inside your rune, it's 50% more resist buff. It's as good as any of the others., If not better.

    are you joking ?

    really ?

    do you think templar should stay in the rune to get that 50% more buff ?

    you made my day

    You're complaining that Templars don't have a particular buff, I showed you they do, and if, IF, you stay inside you get 50% more. You keep on denial apparently because you wanna hate and whine and cry about it. I'm done here. Moan and whine freely. You've been systematically refusing all arguments with a stubborn narrow minded way, so what's the point of even using the forums?

    I'm out. Have a good day.


    PS.: Btw... The rune cost is a fraction of any of the other classes skills. That's very good for Templars. Keep that in mind, if you want. Learn to play the class instead of wasting time complaining.
    Edited by ZonasArch on July 6, 2019 5:49PM
  • LuxLunae
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    Actually that standing in rune is nonsensical for pvp....

    I told somebody when I was trying to use lard wahden with rune.. "I remember a dev once saying templar is suppose to be a house"

    He replied "that's why he was fired some months ago"

    That guy was a stam nb lol...
  • NBrookus
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Delparis wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Delparis wrote: »
    Baconlad wrote: »
    I have been playing my magplar since summerset as burst and glass oriented. It's incredibly effective in BGs. But...I had to give it up after new update since flare nerfs hit too hard. So I swapped back to my puncturing sweeps setup. Pariah, pirate skelly, regen set. I missed those big burst heals from the other build. So I had a thought

    Playing my glass canon I REALLY got comfortable with horrible sustain and passive mitigation. So I swapped to full damage glass canon puncturing sweeps build. Its insanely effective.

    I run 740 regen unbuffed, 4.8k spell damage not including spell strategist and I'm able to put down BIG boy damage that makes all but the best duos *** themselves. I rarely zerg (although I am guilty...) mainly at resources or alone against multiple players.

    My advice is to drop all sustain, all defense, and learn to play with it. You will not regret it. It's the best way to really learn your classes defense, offense and opportunity windows for burst.

    Also...crescent sweep, its AMAZING. Dont sleep on it. 16k initial hits against poorly defended 810s. It's really a great class. Although I'm still salty AF about dark flare nerfs...

    you can't play pvp without sustain and defense. templars need to give up on dmg in order to do that where other class got that sustain and defense built in their skills:
    • sorc got shields for defense (skills)
    • nightblade got cloak (skill)
    • dk got dmg mitigation (skill)
    • warden get dmg mitigation and shield (skill)

    Rune focus...

    every other class got that major resolve and major ward skill

    Poi ting out that it's sustain and defense in one skill and if you stay inside your rune, it's 50% more resist buff. It's as good as any of the others., If not better.

    It's not 50% more resists. It's 50% more of Major Ward/Resolve.

    Casting Rune grants Major Ward and Resolve. Standing in your 5m Rune grants you 2640 phys and spell resists on top of the Major buffs.
  • ZonasArch
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    LuxLunae wrote: »
    Actually that standing in rune is nonsensical for pvp....

    I told somebody when I was trying to use lard wahden with rune.. "I remember a dev once saying templar is suppose to be a house"

    He replied "that's why he was fired some months ago"

    That guy was a stam nb lol...

    No need to stay there, but the major buffs still apply outside of this area... So you only need to use the skill just like all the other classes.... How hard is it?
  • ZonasArch
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    NBrookus wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Delparis wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Delparis wrote: »
    Baconlad wrote: »
    I have been playing my magplar since summerset as burst and glass oriented. It's incredibly effective in BGs. But...I had to give it up after new update since flare nerfs hit too hard. So I swapped back to my puncturing sweeps setup. Pariah, pirate skelly, regen set. I missed those big burst heals from the other build. So I had a thought

    Playing my glass canon I REALLY got comfortable with horrible sustain and passive mitigation. So I swapped to full damage glass canon puncturing sweeps build. Its insanely effective.

    I run 740 regen unbuffed, 4.8k spell damage not including spell strategist and I'm able to put down BIG boy damage that makes all but the best duos *** themselves. I rarely zerg (although I am guilty...) mainly at resources or alone against multiple players.

    My advice is to drop all sustain, all defense, and learn to play with it. You will not regret it. It's the best way to really learn your classes defense, offense and opportunity windows for burst.

    Also...crescent sweep, its AMAZING. Dont sleep on it. 16k initial hits against poorly defended 810s. It's really a great class. Although I'm still salty AF about dark flare nerfs...

    you can't play pvp without sustain and defense. templars need to give up on dmg in order to do that where other class got that sustain and defense built in their skills:
    • sorc got shields for defense (skills)
    • nightblade got cloak (skill)
    • dk got dmg mitigation (skill)
    • warden get dmg mitigation and shield (skill)

    Rune focus...

    every other class got that major resolve and major ward skill

    Poi ting out that it's sustain and defense in one skill and if you stay inside your rune, it's 50% more resist buff. It's as good as any of the others., If not better.

    It's not 50% more resists. It's 50% more of Major Ward/Resolve.

    Casting Rune grants Major Ward and Resolve. Standing in your 5m Rune grants you 2640 phys and spell resists on top of the Major buffs.

    I said "50% more resist buffs". Read again.
  • chaz
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    I just find the whole thing ridiculous that there's a separate criteria for PvE Vs. PvP in means of gear, CP ect. So, for me, with K/D I chose long range to be sure it goes XX/0. In anycase, before ZoS nerfs it, try the new class. It seems ridiculously OP'd in PvE and seems to burn mob trash too quickly.

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  • Delparis
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    Doesn't matter even Alcast burn thing fast in BG with his sorc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDShDZjD-W8&t=28s
  • Lokey0024
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    Don't over commit. Mist away and pop a giganto heal. Works on my MDK, and templar has the anti NB purge ring and amazing damage if you build right.
  • Priyasekarssk
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    Delparis wrote: »
    Doesn't matter even Alcast burn thing fast in BG with his sorc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDShDZjD-W8&t=28s

    What he just left a person with 30K resistance. He knows he can kill only potatoes with the least resistance. All the time he is with his team mates. 4DKs or 4 stamdens can just roll over 4 mage sorcs any day.
    Edited by Priyasekarssk on July 6, 2019 10:04PM
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