Gnozo wrote: »

Your content push outs are far too frequently. You just released elsweyr and soon there will be a new DLC coming to PTS.

Necromancer is still bugged af and lack luster in a lot of aspects of the game. We havent seen any improvements to this besides bash ult. And i know why, you guys were already working in the new DLC. And this needs to stop asap. You just push out unfinished content and then never take a look at it again....

Other MMOs make maybe one big content Update each year. And thats totally fine. Its well polished and contains a lot of stuff. And those games are not dying. They doing Well with this.

We can already See how the Quality is degrading with every chapter.

Morrowind was big. Huge Island, new class, new big Trial and battlegrounds.

Summerset: Quite small Island, one Guild skilline, Mini Trial.

Elsweyr: Small Zone, new Trial feels like Mini Trial (3 bosses with some mobs between), new class wich is still in beta development.

We get less and less content each chapter.... Please change this.

Remove the DLCs and only make one chapter each year. Big Ass chapter with lots and lots of content where you can spend one year to make it and fine tune it.

Northern Elsweyr is actually a larger zone than Vvardenfell. Just saying.

Gnozo wrote: »

Your content push outs are far too frequently. You just released elsweyr and soon there will be a new DLC coming to PTS.

Necromancer is still bugged af and lack luster in a lot of aspects of the game. We havent seen any improvements to this besides bash ult. And i know why, you guys were already working in the new DLC. And this needs to stop asap. You just push out unfinished content and then never take a look at it again....

Other MMOs make maybe one big content Update each year. And thats totally fine. Its well polished and contains a lot of stuff. And those games are not dying. They doing Well with this.

We can already See how the Quality is degrading with every chapter.

Morrowind was big. Huge Island, new class, new big Trial and battlegrounds.

Summerset: Quite small Island, one Guild skilline, Mini Trial.

Elsweyr: Small Zone, new Trial feels like Mini Trial (3 bosses with some mobs between), new class wich is still in beta development.

We get less and less content each chapter.... Please change this.

Remove the DLCs and only make one chapter each year. Big Ass chapter with lots and lots of content where you can spend one year to make it and fine tune it.

I like the steady steam of new content. One of - if not the best - thing about this game is it's hard to run out of things to do. On so many other MMORPGs you end up running out of things to do - or you end up doing the same exact thing over and over and over again. My recent fling with Black Desert made me appreciate that about this game.

That being said: I haven't played Elseweyr (I'm holding out to see what they do with CP or if they plan on increasing landscape challenge) so you may or may not be right about the decrease in quality. I can't really say.

I would much rather they slowed their releases down to focus on post update fixing, however I think they don't for two reasons.

1st they made a promise to release 4 updates a year, and most of that is tied to the value of ESO+ removing updates in the schedule would futher devalue ESO+ (after the loss of one update being made an expansion)

Also when I spoke with Rob at an event about doing an update that was entirely focused on patching we had a chat about how it isn't required as there are a lot of fixed which go into the later updates to fix issues with the previous one, and that a lot of people want to keep consuming the new content, so you would be starving those people of content.
He made a point which I agree with as well, in that while the game has a lot of bugs, most of them are not "literally unplayable" and don't effect a majority of the people playing.

Obviously we're talking bugs and not game performance here. So things like that lamp in housing not working, a skill not working correctly etc. these are huge frustrations for the people who have them, but they're not bringing the game to a halt. So it's better to run them out in updates with content than pause the game for an update to focus on bugs entirely.

As said at the start though, whilst I understand and agree their view makes sense, I would rather have two updates with six months dev time/post launch support.

Gnozo wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Your content push outs are far too frequently. You just released elsweyr and soon there will be a new DLC coming to PTS.

Necromancer is still bugged af and lack luster in a lot of aspects of the game. We havent seen any improvements to this besides bash ult. And i know why, you guys were already working in the new DLC. And this needs to stop asap. You just push out unfinished content and then never take a look at it again....

Other MMOs make maybe one big content Update each year. And thats totally fine. Its well polished and contains a lot of stuff. And those games are not dying. They doing Well with this.

We can already See how the Quality is degrading with every chapter.

Morrowind was big. Huge Island, new class, new big Trial and battlegrounds.

Summerset: Quite small Island, one Guild skilline, Mini Trial.

Elsweyr: Small Zone, new Trial feels like Mini Trial (3 bosses with some mobs between), new class wich is still in beta development.

We get less and less content each chapter.... Please change this.

Remove the DLCs and only make one chapter each year. Big Ass chapter with lots and lots of content where you can spend one year to make it and fine tune it.

I like the steady steam of new content. One of - if not the best - thing about this game is it's hard to run out of things to do. On so many other MMORPGs you end up running out of things to do - or you end up doing the same exact thing over and over and over again. My recent fling with Black Desert made me appreciate that about this game.

That being said: I haven't played Elseweyr (I'm holding out to see what they do with CP or if they plan on increasing landscape challenge) so you may or may not be right about the decrease in quality. I can't really say.

If they would put the Work they usaly put in 3 DLCs and 1 chapter into one big Update it is possible to keep you busy for one year.

Cause the normal Dungeon DLCs are mostly done after 1 week.

I haven't really cared much for the Dungeon DLCs either. So I'm on board with you there. Those have steadily gotten worse over the years. But for me that's mostly due to their annoying and frustrating design elements.

I thought Summerset and Murkmire were pretty well done when compared to the previous DLC and Chapters I've played.

darthgummibear_ESO wrote: »

SirAxen wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Your content push outs are far too frequently. You just released elsweyr and soon there will be a new DLC coming to PTS.

Necromancer is still bugged af and lack luster in a lot of aspects of the game. We havent seen any improvements to this besides bash ult. And i know why, you guys were already working in the new DLC. And this needs to stop asap. You just push out unfinished content and then never take a look at it again....

Other MMOs make maybe one big content Update each year. And thats totally fine. Its well polished and contains a lot of stuff. And those games are not dying. They doing Well with this.

We can already See how the Quality is degrading with every chapter.

Morrowind was big. Huge Island, new class, new big Trial and battlegrounds.

Summerset: Quite small Island, one Guild skilline, Mini Trial.

Elsweyr: Small Zone, new Trial feels like Mini Trial (3 bosses with some mobs between), new class wich is still in beta development.

We get less and less content each chapter.... Please change this.

Remove the DLCs and only make one chapter each year. Big Ass chapter with lots and lots of content where you can spend one year to make it and fine tune it.

Northern Elsweyr is actually a larger zone than Vvardenfell. Just saying.

Geographically maybe, but it has like 1/4 the substance.

jeah , it also has like 6 less wayshrine, not even talking about positioning of those shrines
I persoanally think that Vvardenfell was way bigger than Elsweyr, and containing more Content overall.
It took me 3-4 days to complete Vvardenfell while I completed Elsweyr within 2 Days.....I dont know how many locations and quests each zone had in total, bu tim pretty sure Vvardenfell has more overall.

Releasing one big chapter with lots of content no bugs a year sounds like a good idea to me makes sense.

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Releasing one big chapter with lots of content no bugs a year sounds like a good idea to me makes sense.

But they still profit from unfinished chapters. Less work, same money.
Maximize their profit while the game is up. Everyone know that ZoS will focus to another game.

Whatever new content they release will be inconsequential for me, as I'm not purchasing it. Not until they actually fix it, anyway. Still got plenty to do in the game, plenty of characters to advance, it's not like I'm gonna miss it. And I'm utterly fed up with their lies and fake promises, and even more so with the butchering of lore, and PvP changes that cause big trouble for PvE.

"Chapters are not DLC, they are much more", they said. Now, both Morrowind and Sumerset are counted as DLC. Was it foreseeable ? Yes. Do I feel cheated ? Also yes.

"Jewelry will be much more meaningful than other crafts", they said. Which translated by jewelry being an awful, boring grind, improvement ressources being scarce and needing to be refined themselves. There is a reason no one does the master writs for jewelry, and it's simple : it's not worth it. The time and gold you'd need to sink in them isn't worth the vouchers, even when you get a 400+ vouchers writ. I've had one such 400+ vouchers writ sitting in my bank for almost a year, for the day I actually have all the mats to do it. In the end, I just sold whatever materials I had accumulated and destroyed the writ. No one buys them anyway.

"Necromancy is illegal", they said. Well, no, it's not. It's perfectly legal, provided that the body and / or souls were sold legally by their owner prior to their death. It's the public display of reanimated undeads that is illegal. Necromancy is only illegal in Morrowind, but still practiced legitimately when one summons their own ancestors for honoring them.

"Racial balance will allow more roles for everyone", they said. Which lead to Argonians no longer being resistant to poison, which was their lore trademark and still is in the dialogues. It led to Bosmers becoming guards instead of thieves, and also made them the only race that has a passive that requires points to have no use whatsoever in PvE. It lead to Altmers regenerating stamina with SPELL recharge... And generally speaking, it led to shoehorning everyone in pre-defined roles even more than before.

"Dragons are awesome", they said. Watching a dragon fight feels like watching the Matrix' code. You see the lifeless puppet, and you see the code being executed in the background. The dragon doesn't fight the people around it, it just... Fights. No one on the right side ? Whatever, he'll shake his right wing to push them away nonetheless. A zillion people attacking it while it's perched on a rock ? No worries, he can take it, he'll just stand there doing nothing.

And let's not mention how bugged the necromancer is, especially the stam one that is for many impossible to play with skills not working and the like. Or the Rimmen Necropolis public dungeon that wasn't itemised at all, with zero loot container. Or the amazing performance drop in The Stitches or whatever that region in Northern Elsweyr is. Or the fact that the chapter is called Elsweyr but only gives you half of it.

All marketing ploys, not a single promise that turned to be true. I'm not listening to them anymore.

Agree with OP.

The list of bugs gets bigger.
The EU server gets worse. Its current condition is a total shambles.
EU players are treated like 2nd class even though there are more of us. Clearly dollars are worth more than euros.
The lies. The constant lies. No gamble crates, they said. Year later, gamble crates, which they now seem to focus the most on. Nasty, predatory CRAP. Claiming stuff is fixed in natch potes, but actually not fixed at all. LIES.
Lazy, lazy practises, reskins that take all of 2 minutes in a new layer in Photoshop, then charged silly money for. Such laziness. I made better mods for free. Still do.
Players ask for stuff that would sell, yet that stuff is never added. Just more stuff crammed into clown crates. That they said they would NEVER stoop to.

I love this game - well, I have loved it for a long time, since early closed beta. However, things have become so bad that I have cancelled my ESO+ renewal and will spend no more real money on this game until I see a real improvement and not just just empty promises saying what they think we want to hear. They clearly don't like EU money anyway, judging by the way we Euros are treated.

I still play when there's group content to do, but more and more now, I am playing other games. I've been having a blast playing and modding Skyrim again.

I know they are working on another MMO, but the current state of this one is not filling me with anticipation for it.

They said "We're 'killing it'!" They certainly are. Killing it stone dead, one more bug and one more stupid gamble crate at a time.

I'm pretty sure DLC and content who are planned this year is already done at the same time of the chapter and they just add in little by little.

I doubt they will creat a full DLC in few month.

But I agree, need a huge bug fix patch instead of content (even if I'm happy to get new content)

You guys know there are more than 30 quests to do in Elsweyr?

The main quest series is only a handful of the quests in the zone. If you say you did all 30-35 quests and got the "Savior of Elsweyr" title in just 2 days, you cannot be telling the truth.

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Hallothiel wrote: »

You completed Elsweyr in 2 days? How? Did you sit in front on the screen 24/7 and speed run through it? Why? So you can then complain?

What? You can complete Elsweyr in maybe less than a week when you play <2 hours per day. There is not much content there. I read all the quests and completed all of the zone in less than 15 hours. And most time was wasted on riding through that zone from spot to spot and not with actual content.