LiquidPony wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

@Oreyn_Bearclaw I don't disagree with anything in your response, especially this:

There is also no substitute for committing your rotation to muscle memory, and dummies are the best way to do that. Much like a musician that spends hours practicing scales. No, it's not the whole symphony (the trial in this metaphor), but it certainly helps.

I feel that if you are going to dummy parse, do it in unfavorable conditions. What I mean by that, is don't have a person off screen buffing you or cheese your build. Parse food isn't that big a deal to me, but the point is to work on your build and rotation so you can do it in a trial. Not to impress your guildies with your score. So you might as well practice wearing and using the stuff you are going to use when it matters.

It seems to me that your complaint about having people "off screen" to "cheese your build" doesn't line up with your last sentence.

So you're supposed to practice while wearing and using the stuff you are going to use when it matters, but you aren't supposed to practice while having the buffs/debuffs you are going to have when it matters?

The legitimate point of providing additional buffs in parses was to level the playing field across classes/builds and get a more accurate picture of what DPS numbers look like in real content.

MJallday wrote: »

You can complete everything in this game including vas +2 and vcr+3 with 30k

Obviously the more the better but it’s certainly all doable with lower numbers . It’s only certain guilds that get all elitist about it

Pedantic maybe, but this isn't true. You can't complete vSS HM with 30k DPS; you'll wipe on portal phase on Navi.

I also seriously doubt any group filled with DPS who only pull 30k on a dummy has ever cleared vAS+2 or vCR+3. The actual DPS parses in those trials may be around 30k, or even lower, but that's a result of mechanics (e.g., Olms is frequently immune to damage) or CMX weirdness (e.g., DPS on that fat purple slug gets split up for people who go downstairs and between the main fight and the execute phase). So people who are pulling 55k or whatever on a 6mil might only hit 30k on Olms, but people who are pulling 30k on a 6mil are only going to hit much lower.