check player passports like facebook/asian mmo do

Noctus · July 2019

it would get rid of the cheaters and ppl who support botters by buying the accounts they lvl.

Edit: erased my statement with cp hope everyone happy now

ZiRM · July 2019

The game is overrun by cheats.

altunit21 · July 2019

Doesn't CP level have more to do with time played rather than ability? Mine is around 950 and I have never done a dungeon.

Gnozo · July 2019

ZiRM wrote: »

The game is overrun by cheats.

Maybe by Bots but i maybe saw 5 cheaters in my 5 years of Playtime. Played everyday, mostly PvP

SixVoltCar · July 2019

I'm not sending sensitive data like that digitally, bud. I do admire your reckless solution to a non-problem.

LordGavus · July 2019

Cp doesnt equal ability, just time spent playing.
One of my friends is almost at cap and primarily does over land quests.

WeerW3ir · July 2019

So what. Because Someone cant do a dungeon. He is that what you prejudiced him?

SixVoltCar · July 2019

WeerW3ir wrote: »

So what. Because Someone cant do a dungeon. He is that what you prejudiced him?

Yeah they're going to have to make a new account and queue at cp160 to learn the dungeons to satisfy this guy's expectations.

Moushen · July 2019

Face[removed profanity] is worse than ESO, but at least the spyware works "correctly"

biminirwb17_ESO · July 2019

I have 1448cp I have done maybe 10 dungs since launch. All on my healer. I would suck at PVE

Androconium · July 2019

FFS. grow up.

mocap · July 2019

you mean players who buy accounts with high level and gear characters? Sshame on that players, but nothing you can do with it.

essi2 · July 2019

CP is time spent doing ANY activity and in no way relates to player skill or even the completeness of the character/gear.

Watchdog · July 2019

Noctus wrote: »

there are rly suspicious 810 cp ppl who cant do vet dungeons. it would also get rid of the cheaters and ppl who support botters by buying the accounts they lvl.

Edit: pls dont focus on the stuff i said about cp to much . think about how account sellers who are botting 24/7 will get rekt by this for example.

I know it is hot outside in many parts of the world, including my country, but this hot?

I probably can't do a veteran dungeon, even after a year of playing and having almost 700 CP. I haven't done a single trial, normal or veteran, yet. Maybe, just maybe, my Sorcerers might be able to do veteran stuff with 3 experienced veterans in the group to teach me.

Reverb · July 2019

Maybe they should do an IQ test and a critical thinking assessment before allowing new players. It would cut down on threads like this. I’m really (look, vowels!) suspicious of anyone who thinks CP correlates to skill at group content.

mocap · July 2019

Watchdog wrote: »

I probably can't do a veteran dungeon, even after a year of playing and having almost 700 CP

and ?
Will you ruin others people vet dungeon experience bother them with your presence? Probably not, but there are players who do it. But the true problem is that they don't want to learn.

- guys, i don't know mechanics! Pls explain critical parts
- np mate!
VS
- <i don't want to ask about mechanics, I'd rather wipe this team X times before someone will leave or they kick me lol>

feel difference

WuffyCerulei · July 2019

High CP does not equal skill. I know some lower CP people who have more skill in their left pinky toe than a lot of high CP people I’ve seen. Expecting people with high CP to be good is like expecting an orange to be an apple.

idk · July 2019

Noctus wrote: »

there are rly suspicious 810 cp ppl who cant do vet dungeons. it would also get rid of the cheaters and ppl who support botters by buying the accounts they lvl.

Edit: pls dont focus on the stuff i said about cp to much . think about how account sellers who are botting 24/7 will get rekt by this for example.

This does not make sense. While yes, I know for a fact players do sell accounts but you act like CP has any indication of a players skill level and that is false.

CP just means players have played the game a lot and nothing more. While you said do not focus on CP that is the only thing you provide to suggest the players are cheaters or whatever. Without that the entire comment lacks anything at all.

Noctus · July 2019

Reverb wrote: »

Maybe they should do an IQ test and a critical thinking assessment before allowing new players. It would cut down on threads like this. I’m really (look, vowels!) suspicious of anyone who thinks CP correlates to skill at group content.

cp correlates to skill to some degree. cp shows that u spend time in the game. higher cp = more time.

take a real life example of someone who trained boxing for 10 years but has no talent and someone who just started out and has talent.

ofc someone with much time spend in the game should be competent to some degree no ?

VaranisArano · July 2019

The general point is pretty solid.

ESO would benefit from some sort of tutorial for dungeon roles. Actually teach players how to taunt and CC, to heal and buff, and how to do a basic damage rotation or at least a "kill a training dummy" test so players know how much damage they do.

Sure, people would still queue as fake tanks or do poor DPS, but one of thw best ways to improve that is to do a better job of teaching players how to play their roles.

Uryel · July 2019

Well, ***, I don't own a passport. And I'm not going through the hassle of bureaucracy, months of waiting and redoing it again and again because there will inevitably be a mistake to correct. I have an unusual name, at least for where I live, so I don't recall EVER having an official document done right the first time.

I've never played a game that required me to provide official documnets to play. The day a game does that is the day I stop playing it. Or not start playing it, depending on the case.

Uryel · July 2019

Reverb wrote: »

Maybe they should do an IQ test and a critical thinking assessment before allowing new players. It would cut down on threads like this. I’m really (look, vowels!) suspicious of anyone who thinks CP correlates to skill at group content.

They also should do an IQ test and critical thinking assessement or anyone willing to become parents. Would solve the overuse of ressources and general overpopulation issue in a single generation.

Noctus · July 2019

Uryel wrote: »

Well, ***, I don't own a passport. And I'm not going through the hassle of bureaucracy, months of waiting and redoing it again and again because there will inevitably be a mistake to correct. I have an unusual name, at least for where I live, so I don't recall EVER having an official document done right the first time.

I've never played a game tha required me to proivide official documnets to play. The day a game does that is the day I stop playing it. Or not start playing it, depending on the case.

where do u live

Amanuensis · July 2019

Just a thought, OP...a passport will not guarantee non-cheating. But it may guarantee a cheater with a passport, one that can travel to your location. How about building a wall instead?

Reverb · July 2019

Noctus wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

Maybe they should do an IQ test and a critical thinking assessment before allowing new players. It would cut down on threads like this. I’m really (look, vowels!) suspicious of anyone who thinks CP correlates to skill at group content.

cp correlates to skill to some degree. cp shows that u spend time in the game. higher cp = more time.

take a real life example of someone who trained boxing for 10 years but has no talent and someone who just started out and has talent.

ofc someone with much time spend in the game should be competent to some degree no ?

Your analogy doesn’t hold up. Someone who has trained to box for years will be a better boxer than someone just starting out. Someone who has trained in sculpting for years will not be a better boxer. Someone who has trained for competitive cycling for years will not be a better boxer.

Someone who has spent years only questing and adventuring will not automatically have gear and knowledge to do dungeons. Someone who got 1000 cp by farming dolmens has zero experience with the skills and rotations needed for dungeons or trials. And someone who has run Caldwell’s silver and gold on 15 toons has probably spent far more time in the game than you, without ever stepping foot in a dungeon.

And if any of those people decide to start doing dungeons, they will have the skill level of a new player, despite playing the game for years. Because spending time doing one thing doesn’t make you competent at a completely different thing.

Noldornir · July 2019

1- Passports are generally issued over 18/16 Major Age changes depending from country.

That would leave some ages without the ability to play.

2- Passport are usually NOT a mandatory document to own, it's just mandatory IF you want to travel outside your country.

Most EU citizens nowadays hardly needs one (they travel in EU without any passport just the ID card is sufficient). That would leave many ppl without the ability to play (Me as an instance as an EU player that only travelled within EU for his life and never owned a passport). Also note that a passport comes with expenses (50-100 EUR) in order to be validated. That would mean an account would have a "hidden" price wall

3- I can see many GDPR (General Data Protection Rules) infringment in doing so. In particular EU could ask Zenimax to DEMONSTRATE THE NEED of collecting certain datas (anything in the passport) since you can no longer just say "oh well 'cuz i need/ i'd like to have it" with HIGLY SUSPICIOUS datas (asking ones passport IS like asking him "tell me any place in which you have been in the last X years" which could lead to profilation and such)

Noctus · July 2019

Noldornir wrote: »

1- Passports are generally issued over 18/16 Major Age changes depending from country.

That would leave some ages without the ability to play.

2- Passport are usually NOT a mandatory document to own, it's just mandatory IF you want to travel outside your country.

Most EU citizens nowadays hardly needs one (they travel in EU without any passport just the ID card is sufficient). That would leave many ppl without the ability to play (Me as an instance as an EU player that only travelled within EU for his life and never owned a passport). Also note that a passport comes with expenses (50-100 EUR) in order to be validated. That would mean an account would have a "hidden" price wall

3- I can see many GDPR (General Data Protection Rules) infringment in doing so. In particular EU could ask Zenimax to DEMONSTRATE THE NEED of collecting certain datas (anything in the passport) since you can no longer just say "oh well 'cuz i need/ i'd like to have it" with HIGLY SUSPICIOUS datas (asking ones passport IS like asking him "tell me any place in which you have been in the last X years" which could lead to profilation and such)

yes id card and driver license are both enough just identify as the person who is owning the account.

Tandor · July 2019

A nonsensical idea.

Noctus · July 2019

Reverb wrote: »

Noctus wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

Maybe they should do an IQ test and a critical thinking assessment before allowing new players. It would cut down on threads like this. I’m really (look, vowels!) suspicious of anyone who thinks CP correlates to skill at group content.

cp correlates to skill to some degree. cp shows that u spend time in the game. higher cp = more time.

take a real life example of someone who trained boxing for 10 years but has no talent and someone who just started out and has talent.

ofc someone with much time spend in the game should be competent to some degree no ?

Your analogy doesn’t hold up. Someone who has trained to box for years will be a better boxer than someone just starting out. Someone who has trained in sculpting for years will not be a better boxer. Someone who has trained for competitive cycling for years will not be a better boxer.

Someone who has spent years only questing and adventuring will not automatically have gear and knowledge to do dungeons. Someone who got 1000 cp by farming dolmens has zero experience with the skills and rotations needed for dungeons or trials. And someone who has run Caldwell’s silver and gold on 15 toons has probably spent far more time in the game than you, without ever stepping foot in a dungeon.

And if any of those people decide to start doing dungeons, they will have the skill level of a new player, despite playing the game for years. Because spending time doing one thing doesn’t make you competent at a completely different thing.

but doing sports will allready make u better at boxing than an average person no ?

Noldornir · July 2019

Driving licence is no good (a person has the right not to own one as long as he does not drive).

ID would STILL fall under GDPR issues,

Before GDPR i could have collected ANY kind of data (as long as willingly sent) without too many explanations.

Now for each sensitive date i ask you i have to explain why am i asking and the reason must be legit.

In an ID you'll find at the very least these sensitive infos:

First Name= why are you asking?
Family Name= why are you asking?
Birth Date= why are you asking?
Birth Place= why are you asking?
Nationality= why are you asking?
Gender= why are you asking?

unless one (in this case ZoS) can demonstrate that he's asking/collecting these infos for a good reason they would be breaking EU laws.

Usually websites that ask for docs are related to "restricted" kinds of service (like betting) and those has a clearance (and are in fact ORDERED to collect these datas or deny the service).

Tigerseye · July 2019

No, thank you.

I'm not saying there isn't a problem, but when the so-called solution is likely to cause an even bigger problem, you should know you're not on the right track.