Elsweyr NEEDS More Wayshrines (Dragon Spawns are a Pain to get to)

Aliyavana · June 2019

Vvardenfell has a total of 14 wayshrines. Summerset has a total of 13. Elsweyr has only a total of 7 wayshrines, which is unacceptable especially with how inconvenient it is to navigate the canyons. The two southern dragon spawns are too far from the wayshrines, the southeastern dragon spawn requiring you to take a long distance around the canyon in order to reach it. Please add more wayshrines, especially near the southern dragon spawns.

requital · June 2019

Just use:
Retreating Maneuver: Movement Speed by 30% and Mounted Speed by 30%.
and riding skill +60. U can run trough the Elsweyr about in 2-3 min.

LeHarrt91 · June 2019

I had just assumed it was because its Northern Elsweyr and we will get Southern later in the year so make up the whole of Elsweyr. Which is why we currently have half the amount.

doomette · June 2019

requital wrote: »

Just use:
Retreating Maneuver: Movement Speed by 30% and Mounted Speed by 30%.
and riding skill +60. U can run trough the Elsweyr about in 2-3 min.

Or maybe they should also consider new players/new alts without all those bells and whistles too? Perish the thought.

Aliyavana · June 2019

requital wrote: »

Just use:
Retreating Maneuver: Movement Speed by 30% and Mounted Speed by 30%.
and riding skill +60. U can run trough the Elsweyr about in 2-3 min.

have you considered that there is a such thing as new players?

eklhaftb16_ESO · June 2019

Having too many wayshrines would make chasing dragons way too convenient.
And it makes the zone seem bigger, too.

Aliyavana · June 2019

eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »

Having too many wayshrines would make chasing dragons way too convenient.
And it makes the zone seem bigger, too.

I don't think people would complain about convenience

Tan9oSuccka · June 2019

I think this was purposely done to avoid another Alikr/Dolmen situation.

But yeah, totally annoying wayshrine placement even with max mount upgrades.

Seraphayel · June 2019

I love the verticality of Elsweyr yet, as others already said, some Dragon spawns are super annoying to get to because of very bad wayshrine placement. I mean why wouldn’t they put more of them into that zone when Vvardenfell and Summerset both had twice the amount? You don’t have to artificially make the zone bigger when the content in that zone is sparse.

RexyCat · June 2019

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

I think this was purposely done to avoid another Alikr/Dolmen situation.

But yeah, totally annoying wayshrine placement even with max mount upgrades.

Zeni could avoid that by doing it like through a unlock system for those central wayshrines only for character that have done MQ for Elsweyr (or when you get access to daily quest for dragons) as an example to reduce number of levelling people which most of Alikr/Dolmen are doing.

//RexyCat

Edaphon · June 2019

Stop complaining, riding builds character!

Yeah, one or two additional wayshrines couldn't hurt.

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

I had just assumed it was because its Northern Elsweyr and we will get Southern later in the year so make up the whole of Elsweyr. Which is why we currently have half the amount.

Why do so many people believe that just because Northern and Southern Elsweyr are geographically/lore-wise one unified region they should somehow be connected gameplay-wise as well?

The other provinces are also split into several different zones, completely separate from each other. That's how it's always been in this game and everyone perfectly understood it. But for some inexplicable reason people think it should be different for Elsweyr.
Some even feel entitled to get the south for free because they bought the Elsweyr chapter. That just doesn't make any sense.

Devanear · June 2019

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think it's a big deal. Even being a new player and having my mounting speed below 20. Once you learn the best path it becomes pretty straight forward getting there and if perchance the fight is halfway through, well that's hardly a problem

MLGProPlayer · June 2019

I actually liked having fewer wayshrines. I got appreciate the zone design more that way.

Ildun · June 2019

Another problem is, no matter how fast you move, if the area is not render, that is pointless.

WolfingHour · June 2019

Why not have points of interest equidistant to the nearest wayshrine all across Tamriel?

It's about time Rawl'Ka wayshrine is nerfed! /s

Aznarb · June 2019

doomette wrote: »

requital wrote: »

Just use:
Retreating Maneuver: Movement Speed by 30% and Mounted Speed by 30%.
and riding skill +60. U can run trough the Elsweyr about in 2-3 min.

Or maybe they should also consider new players/new alts without all those bells and whistles too? Perish the thought.

Depend what you do.
I've leveling my NB heal few day ago here (love the new intro btw) and if you do all quest, you don't really need to go that fast.
And tbh, I love travel in this aera, beautiful one.

Also like someone said, it's just half Elsweyr, that why we got only half the number of Shrine.
Can't wait for the next part

But, don't get me wrong, I can understand your frustration ^^

Browiseth · June 2019

eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »

Having too many wayshrines would make chasing dragons way too convenient.
And it makes the zone seem bigger, too.

contrarianism at its finest

Ohtimbar · June 2019

I’m sure the pain is intentional, which makes it worse. It’s the least of my problems with Elsweyr, but it is irritating.

doomette · June 2019

Aznarb wrote: »

doomette wrote: »

requital wrote: »

Just use:
Retreating Maneuver: Movement Speed by 30% and Mounted Speed by 30%.
and riding skill +60. U can run trough the Elsweyr about in 2-3 min.

Or maybe they should also consider new players/new alts without all those bells and whistles too? Perish the thought.

Depend what you do.
I've leveling my NB heal few day ago here (love the new intro btw) and if you do all quest, you don't really need to go that fast.
And tbh, I love travel in this aera, beautiful one.

Also like someone said, it's just half Elsweyr, that why we got only half the number of Shrine.
Can't wait for the next part

But, don't get me wrong, I can understand your frustration ^^

Oh I stopped and smelled the roses when I played through the area, doing all the quests and just generally exploring, on my main. And she has all the speedy bells and whistles, I just didn’t use them. I rarely even mounted up, because I wanted to enjoy the scenery (I’m a desert rat, so I looove the area).
I’ve only been doing the dailies on the main, and have had some pretty poor luck with motif drops, so I thought I’d take my stamcro I’m leveling. She has like 5 points in mount speed so far, so it was kind of terrible trying to get to a dragon in time.
Also didn’t help I’m used to the DB passive that reduces your aggro radius when mounted. That’s my own fault, though, for running into all those stupid terror birds that I then need to kill because I think it’s rude to drag other mobs into a dragon fight

Ei8htba11 · June 2019

Yeah, there are fewer wayshrines but it's not a problem really.

You don't have to be fast, just smart.

The dragons spawn in a rotation, usually in a loose clockwise rotation. If you're slow, chase them anticlockwise. You'll miss one dragon that spawns at the next location clockwise, but going in the opposite direction, you'll arrive at the other location with time.

I know, I've done it.

There's also the thing about knowing terrain. If you've never stepped in Elsweyr before (like any location IRL actually), finding your way around can be a problem. After a while you'll know the shortcuts and areas to avoid that will slow you down.

Taking this into consideration you can, at (s)low level, be at the fight before the dragon gets dropped by the high level players farming. I've seen dragons drop before it gets to take off again for the first time.

Edit: Snipped a less constructive note from the end

Hallothiel · June 2019

Just learn the short cuts & its easy.

Seriously, why complain about this? Why, do you think there should be a wayshrine in the middle of each of the spawns so you just port there, kill & move on? Boring. Too like the abysmal dolmen train bollox in Alik’r!

darthgummibear_ESO · June 2019

Seraphayel wrote: »

I love the verticality of Elsweyr yet, as others already said, some Dragon spawns are super annoying to get to because of very bad wayshrine placement. I mean why wouldn’t they put more of them into that zone when Vvardenfell and Summerset both had twice the amount? You don’t have to artificially make the zone bigger when the content in that zone is sparse.

This is exactly what Blizzard did with the WoD expansion, and it has been doing downhill ever since.

Browiseth · June 2019

darthgummibear_ESO wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

I love the verticality of Elsweyr yet, as others already said, some Dragon spawns are super annoying to get to because of very bad wayshrine placement. I mean why wouldn’t they put more of them into that zone when Vvardenfell and Summerset both had twice the amount? You don’t have to artificially make the zone bigger when the content in that zone is sparse.

This is exactly what Blizzard did with the WoD expansion, and it has been doing downhill ever since.

how to win any argument about eso:

1) find a contrived comparison to WoW
2) ????
3) done

Brisemut · June 2019

No, not more wayshrines. I like it the way it is. Maybe one wayshrine per zone would be better.

Knootewoot · June 2019

Brisemut wrote: »

No, not more wayshrines. I like it the way it is. Maybe one wayshrine per zone would be better.

This. The world on Tamriel already feels to small thanks to the fast travel mechanics.

darthgummibear_ESO · June 2019

Browiseth wrote: »

darthgummibear_ESO wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

I love the verticality of Elsweyr yet, as others already said, some Dragon spawns are super annoying to get to because of very bad wayshrine placement. I mean why wouldn’t they put more of them into that zone when Vvardenfell and Summerset both had twice the amount? You don’t have to artificially make the zone bigger when the content in that zone is sparse.

This is exactly what Blizzard did with the WoD expansion, and it has been doing downhill ever since.

how to win any argument about eso:

1) find a contrived comparison to WoW
2) ????
3) done

How is it in any way contrived? I really like ESO, I'm seeing disturbing parallels in developer behavior, and I'd rather not see history repeat itself.

pknecron · June 2019

Aliyavana wrote: »

eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »

Having too many wayshrines would make chasing dragons way too convenient.
And it makes the zone seem bigger, too.

I don't think people would complain about convenience

The problem is that convenience is not a timesink, and that is ZOS #1 goal. The more timesinks the less content they have to create.

redlink1979 · June 2019

requital wrote: »

Just use:
Retreating Maneuver: Movement Speed by 30% and Mounted Speed by 30%. and riding skill +60.

True. That's how I've been chasing dragons around. The same way you ride in Cyro.

Browiseth · June 2019

darthgummibear_ESO wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

darthgummibear_ESO wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

I love the verticality of Elsweyr yet, as others already said, some Dragon spawns are super annoying to get to because of very bad wayshrine placement. I mean why wouldn’t they put more of them into that zone when Vvardenfell and Summerset both had twice the amount? You don’t have to artificially make the zone bigger when the content in that zone is sparse.

This is exactly what Blizzard did with the WoD expansion, and it has been doing downhill ever since.

how to win any argument about eso:

1) find a contrived comparison to WoW
2) ????
3) done

How is it in any way contrived? I really like ESO, I'm seeing disturbing parallels in developer behavior, and I'd rather not see history repeat itself.

"wow added more fast travel points to the map and that's why that game is going downhill"

markulrich1966 · June 2019

get rapid manoever skill in cyrodiil. Even without points in riding speed you are pretty quick with it.

It does not take much time in Cyro to get it.

Just a problem, if you already have a character in another alliance that is locked to cyro.... luckily I got this skill for all of my toons before access to cyro was crippled.

This skill will benefit you not just in elsweyr, but literally everywhere. I also use it without riding, when I run around farming materials. Saves hours of time.

When people complain that it is not easy enough to "farm" the dragons, they should keep in mind that the dragon daily drops pelletine motifs, I sold 2 meanwhile for 60.000 each. You usually do not get such items at a breeze in the rest of the game, either.

Aznarb · June 2019

markulrich1966 wrote: »

get rapid manoever skill in cyrodiil. Even without points in riding speed you are pretty quick with it.

It does not take much time in Cyro to get it.

Just a problem, if you already have a character in another alliance that is locked to cyro.... luckily I got this skill for all of my toons before access to cyro was crippled.

This skill will benefit you not just in elsweyr, but literally everywhere. I also use it without riding, when I run around farming materials. Saves hours of time.

When people complain that it is not easy enough to "farm" the dragons, they should keep in mind that the dragon daily drops pelletine motifs, I sold 2 meanwhile for 60.000 each. You usually do not get such items at a breeze in the rest of the game, either.

Agree, this skill is great, I always go take it as soon as I hit the lv10 !