Scalecaller is not so healer needing, now if it was vFV hm, i would be a bit impressed. Even though i did pass it with 3 dds, we have been giving the tank barriers in turns

Now as i was saying in another thread. I though WigglyTooth's build might need a healing staff for the healing passives and i have dual wield besides for mobs and non vet content to quickly clear it out.

Majority Stamina but still uses magicka. I have just finished making two of these. One on each server. On one i follow the script with the two bows and on another i have gone off script using dual wield and healing staff. In the case of using dual wield and healing staff i use the design for each of the dual wield weapons according to the 2 bow specs and then use the healing staff to restore stamina with the enchant, While i am not actually using any healing staff active skills for the healing, the passives are a great help. And so i use echoing vigor and soothing spores off the stamina and then i also heal off the magicka with budding seeds as a back up when i get low on stamina because i don't have a lot using magicka and anyway the pool is much lower. This option with the healing staff works because the staff restores magicka for budding seeds and the stamina regen enchant as well as the bull netch are restoring stamina.

It will be good to see CMX/esologs screenshot with amount of heals and damage, but anyway congrats on effective play with counter-meta build, this is always great.

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

It will be good to see CMX/esologs screenshot with amount of heals and damage, but anyway congrats on effective play with counter-meta build, this is always great.

where do i find those?

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

It will be good to see CMX/esologs screenshot with amount of heals and damage, but anyway congrats on effective play with counter-meta build, this is always great.

where do i find those?

If you are on console only then probably nowhere, but I guess you may write video when doing dlc vet with stam healer next time, I think many people are curious to see how this works. I have redguard warden dps, of which I'm currently bored, so I was thinking to convert it to stamina healer (for dungeons ofc), but not sure if this worth the effort.

PC!

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

It will be good to see CMX/esologs screenshot with amount of heals and damage, but anyway congrats on effective play with counter-meta build, this is always great.

where do i find those?

If you are on console only then probably nowhere, but I guess you may write video when doing dlc vet with stam healer next time, I think many people are curious to see how this works. I have redguard warden dps, of which I'm currently bored, so I was thinking to convert it to stamina healer (for dungeons ofc), but not sure if this worth the effort.

PC!

Oh then you just need to install Combat metrics add-on, it is amazing tool to see what's going on, i.e. group dps, healing and buffs/debuffs, and to see points of personal improvement in any role.

ABuster wrote: »

We do Mountain God without healer...

no idea what that is. but you know what... appreciate the achievement here for what it is please. TY! :-*


Also this was meant as proof of concept to show it could be done.

ABuster wrote: »

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

Leeched wrote: »

vScP doesnt really need a healer since its basically 1shots or no dmg taken at all. Its very mechanic heavy so as long as ppl know the mechanics, its easy. Last time I pugged it on my tank with a friend on DD our 2 randoms died during first shield phase and we duoed the boss (non HM ofc)

Cant just let me have my win huh?

Why brag about... if it's not a win at all.

It is a win. I posted the screen shots. we won.

Let second morph of vigor give minor berserk to others (not self) and orbs scale from max stat, then it is almost on par, for dungeons. Also, vFV, vet frostvault, hard mode there has heavy unpurgable defile, which murders heals by like 60% i think (cause they think it is fun for healers )
Edit: not sure about the exact number, but i am sure the vigor ticks were more than halved
Edit 2: and separate pve and pvp balance for f***s sake.

Well, i dont have the orbs yet. It's an alt so still working on undaunted line.

zvavi wrote: »

Let second morph of vigor give minor berserk to others (not self) and orbs scale from max stat, then it is almost on par, for dungeons. Also, vFV, vet frostvault, hard mode there has heavy unpurgable defile, which murders heals by like 60% i think (cause they think it is fun for healers )
Edit: not sure about the exact number, but i am sure the vigor ticks were more than halved
Edit 2: and separate pve and pvp balance for f***s sake.

I don't have orb yet. it's an alt toon and so i havent leveled up even my healing staff to 50 yet, which is really there for the passives, and i haven't got my undaunted to 5 yet... so she is still a bit hampered until i do some more content. between the passives and the enchant though i am restoring magica and stamina, so i get two pools of resouces for healing. once i get orbs though i will have to rethink budding seeds, though i like that one because of the synergy that people can use and if i had jorvulds that would be buffed.

I did look at the vigor morphs and thought that 5 more meter radius of healing would be more advantageous. I was also doing scale caller peak to get the gear in jewls and weapons so i could have the jorvulds buff and debuff bonuses. Because as you have said, people expect those.

Once i get my orbs, and the 3 jorvulds weapons and the 3 jewls to replace the ones i am using then i will feel better about reducing the radius of the vigor in favor of the the minor beserk you mentioned.

It's not a finished product but a proof of concept based upon @WigglyTooth build with some tweaking by me

https://dottzgaming.com/build/vigorspam-warden-healer-pve-build/