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2019 and still can't link account to Steam. I despise you people.
RealRobD
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Other games do it, why not you? You couldn't care less that's why.
So is it laziness or greed? Because the only solution is to buy the base game on Steam.
Hell no I'm not buying again what I already paid for.
Stop being terrible people and let us link accounts.
So is it laziness or greed? Because the only solution is to buy the base game on Steam.
Hell no I'm not buying again what I already paid for.
Stop being terrible people and let us link accounts.
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Sansoul✭✭✭Other games do it, why not you? You couldn't care less that's why.
So is it laziness or greed? Because the only solution is to buy the base game on Steam.
Hell no I'm not buying again what I already paid for.
Stop being terrible people and let us link accounts.
It's 2019, why are you still using steam?
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✭ESO Steam users have a loooot of issues. It is probably best not to use it anyway.
If you want to track how long you've been playing just type /played in the chat"If a stick of fish is a fish stick, it will stick like other fish sticks stick"
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Sansoul✭✭✭ESO Steam users have a loooot of issues. It is probably best not to use it anyway.
If you want to track how long you've been playing just type /played in the chat
Steam is a bloated pile of horse dung written by amateurs. Why would you install that bloatware. They still have never responded to my inquiries asking why they have a service daemon running even when the steam client isn't running that is establishing an encrypted connection back to their mothership. No doubt it's slurping metadata, if you look at their privacy statement, it covers them doing this... No doubt in my mind that is what it is doing.
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ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭ESO Steam users have a loooot of issues. It is probably best not to use it anyway.
If you want to track how long you've been playing just type /played in the chat
I use Steam and i have no issues with it. Sure it was not so long ago that updates didnt work with steam right away and that would prevent players from logging in but that hasnt been the case for some time now. So what issues are you referring to?
I rather like the fact that once my game and the chapters are on steam, they are there for good. I have in 2 years, 2x deleted my ZOS account and restarted playing with no need to repurchase everything.
if i had done that without steam i would have had to rebuy the game. Steam Issues, i dont think so.4 -
Trinity_Is_My_Name✭✭✭✭✭
✭Linking ESO to Steam is fool hardy. Thousands and thousands of people complaining of all the issues it has. Just do a search on this forum using "Login" as the key search word.
Plus, you can link it if you so want to. You have to purchase ESO on Steam to do so. Good luck with all the issues you will eventually have.
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Urigall✭✭✭they have a service daemon running even when the steam client isn't running
Any idea how this daemon is initialised or what it's called? Won't show in startup services list, presumably. I'm not doubting you at all btw.
Going to have a look in running services and processes next time I log onto my machine. If there is a Steam daemon communicating with Steam's servers, I'd be very unhappy.
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Sansoul✭✭✭they have a service daemon running even when the steam client isn't running
Any idea how this daemon is initialised or what it's called? Won't show in startup services list, presumably. I'm not doubting you at all btw.
Going to have a look in running services and processes next time I log onto my machine. If there is a Steam daemon communicating with Steam's servers, I'd be very unhappy.
This daemon doesn't exist on Mac and I no longer have a windows rig to check but when I did about 1 year ago it had a daemon that was running from the kernel's "inittab". (not sure what windows calls it, this isn't a user space process you'll see in performance manager) You could kill it and even rename yet after every reboot it comes back. When I posted a response to them about what it is doing I got no response. When you trace the process it was encrypted, the endpoint it was talking too had a near identical trace route as the rest of the steam processes.
I wouldn't be surprised if it "magically" disappeared in one of their updates now that the DoJ is looking into privacy concerns and the information broker market... a highly lucrative but kept highly secretive multi-billion dollar industry.
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ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭Trinity_Is_My_Name wrote: »Linking ESO to Steam is fool hardy. Thousands and thousands of people complaining of all the issues it has. Just do a search on this forum using "Login" as the key search word.
Plus, you can link it if you so want to. You have to purchase ESO on Steam to do so. Good luck with all the issues you will eventually have.
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Urigall✭✭✭This daemon doesn't exist on Mac and I no longer have a windows rig to check but when I did about 1 year ago it had a daemon that was running from the kernel's "inittab". (not sure what windows calls it, this isn't a user space process you'll see in performance manager) You could kill it and even rename yet after every reboot it comes back. When I posted a response to them about what it is doing I got no response. When you trace the process it was encrypted, the endpoint it was talking too had a near identical trace route as the rest of the steam processes.
I wouldn't be surprised if it "magically" disappeared in one of their updates now that the DoJ is looking into privacy concerns and the information broker market... a highly lucrative but kept highly secretive multi-billion dollar industry.
Thanks for the info.
I had a cursory look but couldn't see anything I didn't recognise that was using any of my PC's resources. I'm going to dig around though.
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ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭they have a service daemon running even when the steam client isn't running
Any idea how this daemon is initialised or what it's called? Won't show in startup services list, presumably. I'm not doubting you at all btw.
Going to have a look in running services and processes next time I log onto my machine. If there is a Steam daemon communicating with Steam's servers, I'd be very unhappy.
If you like, you can run steam in an offline mode. Worked for Skyrim anyway. Not sure how it would work with eso though.Edited by ryzen_gamer_gal on June 22, 2019 3:27PM0 -
Sansoul✭✭✭ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »they have a service daemon running even when the steam client isn't running
Any idea how this daemon is initialised or what it's called? Won't show in startup services list, presumably. I'm not doubting you at all btw.
Going to have a look in running services and processes next time I log onto my machine. If there is a Steam daemon communicating with Steam's servers, I'd be very unhappy.
If you like, you can run steam in an offline mode.
Offline mode had no effect on this daemon. Steam offline mode isn't really offline mode. If you trace the process, it still tries to establish connections, it just doesn't block you from playing games when it can't connect.0 -
Sansoul✭✭✭This daemon doesn't exist on Mac and I no longer have a windows rig to check but when I did about 1 year ago it had a daemon that was running from the kernel's "inittab". (not sure what windows calls it, this isn't a user space process you'll see in performance manager) You could kill it and even rename yet after every reboot it comes back. When I posted a response to them about what it is doing I got no response. When you trace the process it was encrypted, the endpoint it was talking too had a near identical trace route as the rest of the steam processes.
I wouldn't be surprised if it "magically" disappeared in one of their updates now that the DoJ is looking into privacy concerns and the information broker market... a highly lucrative but kept highly secretive multi-billion dollar industry.
Thanks for the info.
I had a cursory look but couldn't see anything I didn't recognise that was using any of my PC's resources. I'm going to dig around though.
Use Cygwin tools or something similar. Back when I was doing windows stuff there was a site called sys internals or something like that, they had all kinds of opensource/free developer and sys admin tools. The default stuff that comes with windows is a flipping joke.0 -
ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭At any rate, i'm on linux using steam play and dxvk. Works great on my 570 card from radeon.0
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »they have a service daemon running even when the steam client isn't running
Any idea how this daemon is initialised or what it's called? Won't show in startup services list, presumably. I'm not doubting you at all btw.
Going to have a look in running services and processes next time I log onto my machine. If there is a Steam daemon communicating with Steam's servers, I'd be very unhappy.
If you like, you can run steam in an offline mode. Worked for Skyrim anyway. Not sure how it would work with eso though.
you are misunderstanding. there is a bootstraper runing even if you don't have steam active at all.
also no, they have NOT resolved steam issues they still crop up with disturbing regularity. I actualy have ESO account on steam... one of my accounts and its the ONLY account that I have trouble with. even with running steam in offline mode, it interferes with ESO function, because ESO is an online game and steam launcher needs to ping steam in order for me to even be allowed to log in. so if there is a steam outage? i'm not playing that ESO account. i can't.
I don't hate steam, my steam collection of games is extensive to put it mildly. however, i'm having major trouble understanding why would anyone want to connect their MMO's to steam. and before you say overlay - you can use some of its functions without your game being on steam.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***2 -
Sansoul✭✭✭This daemon doesn't exist on Mac and I no longer have a windows rig to check but when I did about 1 year ago it had a daemon that was running from the kernel's "inittab". (not sure what windows calls it, this isn't a user space process you'll see in performance manager) You could kill it and even rename yet after every reboot it comes back. When I posted a response to them about what it is doing I got no response. When you trace the process it was encrypted, the endpoint it was talking too had a near identical trace route as the rest of the steam processes.
I wouldn't be surprised if it "magically" disappeared in one of their updates now that the DoJ is looking into privacy concerns and the information broker market... a highly lucrative but kept highly secretive multi-billion dollar industry.
Thanks for the info.
I had a cursory look but couldn't see anything I didn't recognise that was using any of my PC's resources. I'm going to dig around though.
Use Cygwin tools or something similar. Back when I was doing windows stuff there was a site called sys internals or something like that, they had all kinds of opensource/free developer and sys admin tools. The default stuff that comes with windows is a flipping joke.
Here are some: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/
I can't find the site I used to use, but you wanna find a tool called procexp. It lets you drill down into the windows kernel and see everything. Not sure if it's still out there and current with windows 10. The default user space process viewer hides a lot of stuff. (and ironically malware takes advantage of this)
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Urigall✭✭✭If there is something on board that's communicating with Steam (even if the game client is disabled at start up - it is) I'd like to know the port number it uses. That would be useful info.0
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ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »they have a service daemon running even when the steam client isn't running
Any idea how this daemon is initialised or what it's called? Won't show in startup services list, presumably. I'm not doubting you at all btw.
Going to have a look in running services and processes next time I log onto my machine. If there is a Steam daemon communicating with Steam's servers, I'd be very unhappy.
If you like, you can run steam in an offline mode. Worked for Skyrim anyway. Not sure how it would work with eso though.
you are misunderstanding. there is a bootstraper runing even if you don't have steam active at all.
also no, they have NOT resolved steam issues they still crop up with disturbing regularity. I actualy have ESO account on steam... one of my accounts and its the ONLY account that I have trouble with. even with running steam in offline mode, it interferes with ESO function, because ESO is an online game and steam launcher needs to ping steam in order for me to even be allowed to log in. so if there is a steam outage? i'm not playing that ESO account. i can't.
I don't hate steam, my steam collection of games is extensive to put it mildly. however, i'm having major trouble understanding why would anyone want to connect their MMO's to steam. and before you say overlay - you can use some of its functions without your game being on steam.
I dont know what to say. I have played this game for nearly 2 years and in that time i have had only that brief period where i could not log into eso. It's been a while since then too. I dont know what to say except i am sorry for your troubles. I havent had those problems. And to top it off, i am playing on linux through steam play, using proton - a specialized version of wine to support windows game playing on linux and i dont have those problems. I wonder though if there could possibly be an issue with your antivirus software. Being on linux, i have little need for such things as root access is required to install programs. So i think you could try looking into issues with antivirus programs and steam. Maybe?Edited by ryzen_gamer_gal on June 22, 2019 10:39PM1 -
ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »they have a service daemon running even when the steam client isn't running
Any idea how this daemon is initialised or what it's called? Won't show in startup services list, presumably. I'm not doubting you at all btw.
Going to have a look in running services and processes next time I log onto my machine. If there is a Steam daemon communicating with Steam's servers, I'd be very unhappy.
If you like, you can run steam in an offline mode. Worked for Skyrim anyway. Not sure how it would work with eso though.
you are misunderstanding. there is a bootstraper runing even if you don't have steam active at all.
also no, they have NOT resolved steam issues they still crop up with disturbing regularity. I actualy have ESO account on steam... one of my accounts and its the ONLY account that I have trouble with. even with running steam in offline mode, it interferes with ESO function, because ESO is an online game and steam launcher needs to ping steam in order for me to even be allowed to log in. so if there is a steam outage? i'm not playing that ESO account. i can't.
I don't hate steam, my steam collection of games is extensive to put it mildly. however, i'm having major trouble understanding why would anyone want to connect their MMO's to steam. and before you say overlay - you can use some of its functions without your game being on steam.
Well another advantnge is the use of profiles for controllers if you use them. You can literally use any blue tooth controller to play eso on steam, even on linux with either xboxdrv or xpadneo and the game will play. Without steam you could maybe work it out eventually through a third party program but with steam i get instant working controllers every time, so long as the controller is in good working order.1 -
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✭✭✭✭ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »they have a service daemon running even when the steam client isn't running
Any idea how this daemon is initialised or what it's called? Won't show in startup services list, presumably. I'm not doubting you at all btw.
Going to have a look in running services and processes next time I log onto my machine. If there is a Steam daemon communicating with Steam's servers, I'd be very unhappy.
If you like, you can run steam in an offline mode. Worked for Skyrim anyway. Not sure how it would work with eso though.
you are misunderstanding. there is a bootstraper runing even if you don't have steam active at all.
also no, they have NOT resolved steam issues they still crop up with disturbing regularity. I actualy have ESO account on steam... one of my accounts and its the ONLY account that I have trouble with. even with running steam in offline mode, it interferes with ESO function, because ESO is an online game and steam launcher needs to ping steam in order for me to even be allowed to log in. so if there is a steam outage? i'm not playing that ESO account. i can't.
I don't hate steam, my steam collection of games is extensive to put it mildly. however, i'm having major trouble understanding why would anyone want to connect their MMO's to steam. and before you say overlay - you can use some of its functions without your game being on steam.
I dont know what to say. I have played this game for nearly 2 years and in that time i have had only that brief period where i could not log into eso. It's been a while since then too. I dont know what to say except i am sorry for your troubles. I havent had those problems. And to top it off, i am playing on linux through steam play, using proton - a specialized version of wine to support windows game playing on linux and i dont have those problems. I wonder though if there could possibly be an issue with your antivirus software. Being on linux, i have little need for such things as root access is required to install programs. So i think you could try looking into issues with antivirus programs and steam. Maybe?
I have been playing on Steam for 5+ years and only the one time about 1 1/2 years ago did I have any problem logging in. That was fixed and I haven't had a problem since. I see people knock Steam a lot but my experience is very different.
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Other games do it, why not you? You couldn't care less that's why.
So is it laziness or greed? Because the only solution is to buy the base game on Steam.
Hell no I'm not buying again what I already paid for.
Stop being terrible people and let us link accounts.
It's 2019, why are you still using steam?
LOL
But seriously. Why would anyone want to link their game to Steam given the all to frequent and often long term issues ESO players have had via Steam.
Also, know players who have linked their ESO game to Steam even though they did not buy it through Steam.2 -
Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Be thankful your account isn't linked to steam
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »they have a service daemon running even when the steam client isn't running
Any idea how this daemon is initialised or what it's called? Won't show in startup services list, presumably. I'm not doubting you at all btw.
Going to have a look in running services and processes next time I log onto my machine. If there is a Steam daemon communicating with Steam's servers, I'd be very unhappy.
If you like, you can run steam in an offline mode. Worked for Skyrim anyway. Not sure how it would work with eso though.
you are misunderstanding. there is a bootstraper runing even if you don't have steam active at all.
also no, they have NOT resolved steam issues they still crop up with disturbing regularity. I actualy have ESO account on steam... one of my accounts and its the ONLY account that I have trouble with. even with running steam in offline mode, it interferes with ESO function, because ESO is an online game and steam launcher needs to ping steam in order for me to even be allowed to log in. so if there is a steam outage? i'm not playing that ESO account. i can't.
I don't hate steam, my steam collection of games is extensive to put it mildly. however, i'm having major trouble understanding why would anyone want to connect their MMO's to steam. and before you say overlay - you can use some of its functions without your game being on steam.
I dont know what to say. I have played this game for nearly 2 years and in that time i have had only that brief period where i could not log into eso. It's been a while since then too. I dont know what to say except i am sorry for your troubles. I havent had those problems. And to top it off, i am playing on linux through steam play, using proton - a specialized version of wine to support windows game playing on linux and i dont have those problems. I wonder though if there could possibly be an issue with your antivirus software. Being on linux, i have little need for such things as root access is required to install programs. So i think you could try looking into issues with antivirus programs and steam. Maybe?
its not my antivirus. its a steam issue. how do i know its a steam issue? cause like a clockwork - the notice shows up at the top of the forums, where ZoS is investigating the steam login issues. its not MY troubles. you just seem to be lucky and/or happen to play during times where Steam doesn't decide to have issues.
but steam has issues. when there are steam sales, steam has crazy issues.
as for controller - i don't personaly play with one, but from my experience with steamlink and the kind of headache it gave me and is STILL giving me with my prefered controlled of choice - dualshock? if I ever decide to use controller with ESo, I'm going to use built in controller UI.Edited by Linaleah on June 23, 2019 12:45AMdirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***0 -
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✭✭✭✭Omg, I wish I had your problem. I loathe Steam and I regret every time I boot the game up that I bought it through Steam (after the cutoff date to divorce them). You do NOT want to be tethered to Steam for the rest of your gaming life. It's horrible.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Omg, I wish I had your problem. I loathe Steam and I regret every time I boot the game up that I bought it through Steam (after the cutoff date to divorce them). You do NOT want to be tethered to Steam for the rest of your gaming life. It's horrible.
Yeah, friend told me to be sure to buy ESO through steam.... Ugh. Wrong. I had so many issues (compounded with the crap steam does, was my also crap connection - wildblue sat). I had trouble connecting 5 days out of 7 in July 2018. I was so bent, I bought a copy of the game from the ESO store (lucked into it on sale for $10 US), and it's been just fine since. I have steam because of Skyrim. And I'm considering uninstalling steam, and just playing Oblivion when I need a SPMR fix....0 -
neverwalk✭✭✭✭TO LINKS ACCOUNTS: You must Uninstall your Steam version, do this by right-clicking on ESO from your Steam list of Games. Scroll to bottom and left-click on PROPERTIES, next left-click on LOCAL FILES, next uninstall game. Next shut down Steam, then restart Steam and install game - when done, game will ask if this is NEW or EXISTING account-you answer EXISTING - ( This is where accounts get joined).0 -
ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Omg, I wish I had your problem. I loathe Steam and I regret every time I boot the game up that I bought it through Steam (after the cutoff date to divorce them). You do NOT want to be tethered to Steam for the rest of your gaming life. It's horrible.
Yeah, friend told me to be sure to buy ESO through steam.... Ugh. Wrong. I had so many issues (compounded with the crap steam does, was my also crap connection - wildblue sat). I had trouble connecting 5 days out of 7 in July 2018. I was so bent, I bought a copy of the game from the ESO store (lucked into it on sale for $10 US), and it's been just fine since. I have steam because of Skyrim. And I'm considering uninstalling steam, and just playing Oblivion when I need a SPMR fix....
Was also your crap connection..... that says it all. 330mbps per second here and no issues at all. I wonder if there is a correlation with people who have issues and their crappy internet provider who blame steam for it.0 -
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✭✭✭its not my antivirus. its a steam issue. how do i know its a steam issue? cause like a clockwork - the notice shows up at the top of the forums, where ZoS is investigating the steam login issues. its not MY troubles. you just seem to be lucky and/or happen to play during times where Steam doesn't decide to have issues.
but steam has issues. when there are steam sales, steam has crazy issues.
Exactly!
I'm playing ESO for a year now and every time ZOS released a new patch or update, the steam users got locked out for a day (with the usual "we are aware that bla blabla" message), so I eventually decided to buy the game again and separate my accounts so I could get rid of steam.And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too
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✭ESO Steam users have a loooot of issues. It is probably best not to use it anyway.
If you want to track how long you've been playing just type /played in the chat
Steam is a bloated pile of horse dung written by amateurs. Why would you install that bloatware. They still have never responded to my inquiries asking why they have a service daemon running even when the steam client isn't running that is establishing an encrypted connection back to their mothership. No doubt it's slurping metadata, if you look at their privacy statement, it covers them doing this... No doubt in my mind that is what it is doing.
Found the Epic Store shill.1
