BlackMadara wrote: »

JumpmanLane wrote: »

BlackMadara wrote: »

I dislike that it is gone, but can see why reflect was considered a problem. 50% damage reduction is still strong, and DFS returns a hefty amount of damage. Pretty hilarious to see unaware bow users kill themselves.

I'm finding it hard to justify running protective for snare immunity over RAT though. RAT gives psijic passives, 30% speed, minor force, and snare removal for 2387 cost. Wings gives 50% ranged damage reduction (has been shown to reduce damage from more than just projectiles) and snare removal for 3138 cost. As far as snares go, the increased speed from RAT makes it easier to get out of AoEs. That, combined with lower cost, and potentially increased damage makes it seem like the better choice.

That said, I'm considering trying protective to free up a bar slot. Gonna try slotting ele drain. Would increased pen and mag return outweigh the movement speed and minor force of RAT? I'll see how it feels.

Dude, I ain’t being funny. I ain’t! I ain’t! But how in the WORLD are you running MagDk without Ele Drain?

Look, run RAT if you want to. It ain’t necessarily a bad skill at all, albeit a particularly weird playstyle tho (I can with VERY good justification call your playstyle weird if you ain’t running Ele Drain. Point blank and period. Lol).

Wings/SnB is probably the best way to run MagDk THIS patch. There is no reason at ALL to pick RAT over wings AND Ele Drain. You’re just gimping yourself. Folks are TANKY now days. You better have a source of Major Sorcery too lol.

Are you talking PvE? No way you’re PvPing not running Ele Drain. Do you run whip and leap? Lol. Nvm. I’m being funny and I shouldn’t be. BUT. DUDE...I just can’t take your ideas seriously on MagDk like at all lol.

Convince me otherwise. Tell me what you’re running.

Geeze run Undo on your back bar if you want Psijic passives AND minor protection. Hehehehe if you’re gonna honestly try to peck away at folks without MAJOR BREACH you’re gonna def need 8% damage mitigation on your turtle bar lol. As IF 50% damage mitigation vs projectiles is something you’re only CONSIDERING (91% with a shield on ALL projectiles vs 4). Geeze...50% 0n projectiles over 30% while CHANELLING). Oh I’m gonna die laughing lol.

I've run ele drain in the past, and it isn't the end all, be all that some people seem to think it is.It is a very good skill. The main con of ele drain is it being purged for free. Fighting a temp spamming purge essentially means ele drain is a dead skill on my bar. This is a restricted scenario, but one I find myself in pretty often.

Running RAT with DFS has proved effective as well. You lose a chunk of mag return compared to not having ele drain, but i barely run low either way. You lose damage compared to using ele drain, but the minor force buff makes up a bit of that, RAT is much cheaper than Plate for snare removal, and gives major expedition. DFS is nice to deter ranged attackers in 1vX scenarios. Those fireballs do quite a bit of damage and force ranged attackers to stop and heal, or outright kill themselves if they are scrubs. That potential relief in pressure is useful. The con is that having to cast two spells for snare removal and damage mitigation can be costly and GCD wasting.

So it comes down to:

RAT + DFS: Snare removal + 50% ranged damage mitigation for 2 GCD, Major Expedition (+30% speed), Minor Force (+10% crit damage), and counter pressure vs ranged targets

Protective + Ele Drain: Snare Removal +50% ranged damage mitigation for 1 GCD, Major Breach (-8% spell mitigation vs target, and 300 mag/s while attacking (easy with dots)

I am leaning towards Protective and Ele drain, hence why i'm playtesting them now.

PS. Of course I run major sorcery. Flame staff is a lot of damage to pass up. SnB front bar is really only effective if you block often on front bar, which I do not build for in cyro. I run ice staff to play defensively back bar.

Chrysa1is wrote: »

wall of text nerf next plz