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ZOS PLEASE DONT IGNORE THE LAG

Unfadingsilence
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Honestly no one from ZOS is talking about it other than the little post about the EU lag. I have made and posted so many videos of the state of the game and not even during prime time we are talking about 12am-4am time frames. Once more here is the most recent video from last night and from what I'm hearing the maintenance did not improve much of anything. Currently playing on xbox NA "but play EU as well but wont touch it" I have an xbox one x a 4TB SSD 1gig upload and 1gig download no programs running in background and all wifi turned off all devices and I'm directly wired in as well and I play on a sony 75inch 4k ultra hd tv "not like it matters" and I live in Colorado

https://youtu.be/xrOemHCbYwE

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_MattFiror @ZOS_GaryA @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_MichaelServotte @ZOS_MollyH @ZOS_BrianWheeler

@ZOS
Edited by Unfadingsilence on June 20, 2019 2:32AM
  • Unfadingsilence
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    Anyone please respond
  • frostz417
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    Zos responding to lag threads? Lol
  • Unfadingsilence
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    frostz417 wrote: »
    Zos responding to lag threads? Lol

    It would be nice
  • Kel
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    Yeah, they won't respond to lag threads.
  • Stebarnz
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    They don't have the inclination or the ability to fix this.

    When will you realise and boycott EU server completely.
  • Unfadingsilence
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    Stebarnz wrote: »
    They don't have the inclination or the ability to fix this.

    When will you realise and boycott EU server completely.

    These clips are from NA I have a few toons on EU and wont even touch them atm
  • Hyperion616
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    Anyone please respond

    I'm just going to be honest with you and I hate to be this way, but while you were creating this thread regarding an issue that should be dealt with. The Developers, a bunch of their friends and family were out drinking and spending sub/store money.

    Aint Nobody Got Time Dat!
    I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it.

    ~Edith Sitwell

  • Sandman929
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    In a way, they have, spread out. If you lag when fighting with 30 people around, spread out more. If it's only 20 people, spread out more. 10 people? You must spread out.
    If you lag out standing somewhere alone, have you checked out the crown store?
  • Girl_Number8
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    Yeapers, it is getting worst and Zos still isn't giving it the proper attention it deserves. They are killing their own game.

    So at some point there won't be anything left for them to get money from. Because if they can f** up a great game like ESO, they won't be able to manage anything else.
  • Unfadingsilence
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    In a way, they have, spread out. If you lag when fighting with 30 people around, spread out more. If it's only 20 people, spread out more. 10 people? You must spread out.
    If you lag out standing somewhere alone, have you checked out the crown store?

    Lol I have and honestly I've spent around $5000 on the game cuz I truly love the game and yes I mean $5000 over the last 5 years "little $$$ compared to others I know"
  • LiraTaurwen
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    Shhhhh be quiet dude! You don't want to scare away potential new players!
    ZoS never replies, the way this forum treats people who talk about lag is label them as trolls, crying babies or cheap people with bad PC/connection so their topics are mostly ignored or turn into a joke meme fest.

    Too bad more and more of these topics appear each day! What are you going to do ZoS??? This is getting funny...ahahah!
  • LadyLethalla
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    Stebarnz wrote: »
    When will you realise and boycott EU server completely.

    Never, because reasons. Would rather switch games than servers.
    x-TallyCat-x // PC EU DC - For the Covenant! // ESO Platinum trophy - 16th May 2017.
    Melbourne Australia - the land of Potato Internet.WTB ESO OCEANIC SERVER
  • Uryel
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    frostz417 wrote: »
    Zos responding to lag threads? Lol

    It would be nice

    It would, but they have absolutely no sense of communication whatsoever. I've worked in tech support for several years, back a decade ago, and I'm baffled by how useless theirs is. I'm astounded by how deafening their silence is.

    I know a thing of two, or maybe a dozen, about communication. I may chose not to always use them when I use the forums, but hey, that's not MY job here. The fact that community managers have no interaction with the community, except when they lock threads, post about deleting some messages, or, recently and very infuriatingly, lock a thread about bosmers losing stealth to point people to another thread that is apparently deemed "official", that has been ongoing for over 80 pages, and upon which no one from ZOS has ever bothered answering, proves by itself that they have no intention to communicate with their clients. Ever.

    I considered creating a thread calling them out, politely, to explain why they should start communicating. They did mention a while ago that they had "poorly communicated" about server issues, that they had learnt from it, and would try to improve. The cynic in me presumed that it would be a one time thing, that they had not learnt at all, and that they would not improve their communication at all. Seems the cynic in me was right. So, why bother ? They probably know everything I know about communication, and maybe more.

    They just don't care. New customers generate more income than trying to keep the old ones. It's very easy, really : just make sure you have a high visibility about how amazing your newly introduced dragons are, how the feedback is good, how you are "killing it", and there you go, new customers.

    Of course, that's non-factoring the reviews that will inevitably take a dive as customers feel cheated, the generated mistrust that might cause future communication regarding that product, or the next, or the next next product, to be disregarded entirely, and in the long run the potential loss of long term customers, fans who bought each game and just won't buy the next. But investors and shareholders have never been known for their long time vision. Milk them now, and if the company fails, whatever, just invest elsewere.

    One sure thing is they've seen the last of my money until they fix this mess. Server performance is poor ; dragons animations are pitiful, they have no interaction whatsoever with their environnement (they don't attack the nearby farmers, and nearby farmers don't even notice the dragon sitting a few meters away from them) ; storytelling is rather uninspired, and 'lo and behold, we get the Mass Effect... effect, as player choices don't matter : you may or may not have killed Sai Sahan in a very specific quest, but he's gonna be back anyway. Oh, and stamina necromancers are currently bugged to hell and back, and then to hell again. No communication on that either. Why would they ? Chances are, some people who haven't bought Elsweyr yet might decide not to if they learn the class they want to play is bugged.

    One thing many fail to understand is that silence is a form of communication ("You cannot not communicate", as the saying goes). An unclear one though, that leaves the way opened to many missinterpretation. Is it lazyness ? Failure to fix things that they would rather not admit publicly, while actually saying "we are sorry, we're doing our best but it's trickier than we thought" would go a long way to redeem them ? Is it just spite and a greedy interest in our wallets only ? When left to freely figure what silence means, one will often settle for what they personnaly deem the worst. Having worked my arse off in IT to make sure my customers were satisfied, or at least properly cared for, and often against my boss / company's will, the worst for me is that they wouldn't care, so that's what I settle for. Spite and greed. Maybe I'm wrong, but unless THEY tell us why they never ever bother talking to us, it's as good as any a possibility.

    TLDR : they won't communicate, they don't care about your satisfaction, only that you keep spending money. Or so it seems.
    Edited by Uryel on June 20, 2019 9:43AM
  • Ydrisselle
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    Uryel wrote: »
    frostz417 wrote: »
    Zos responding to lag threads? Lol

    It would be nice

    It would, but they have absolutely no sense of communication whatsoever. I've worked in tech support for several years, back a decade ago, and I'm baffled by how useless theirs is. I'm astounded by how deafening their silence is.

    I know a thing of two, or maybe a dozen, about communication. I may chose not to always use them when I use the forums, but hey, that's not MY job here. The fact that community managers have no interaction with the community, except when they lock threads, post about deleting some messages, or, recently and very infuriatingly, lock a thread about bosmers losing stealth to point people to another thread that is apparently deemed "official", that has been ongoing for over 80 pages, and upon which no one from ZOS has ever bothered answering, proves by itself that they have no intention to communicate with their clients. Ever.

    I considered creating a thread calling them out, politely, to explain why they should start communicating. They did mention a while ago that they had "poorly communicated" about server issues, that they had learnt from it, and would try to improve. The cynic in me presumed that it would be a one time thing, that they had not learnt at all, and that they would not improve their communication at all. Seems the cynic in me was right. So, why bother ? They probably know everything I know about communication, and maybe more.

    They just don't care. New customers generate more income than trying to keep the old ones. It's very easy, really : just make sure you have a high visibility about how amazing your newly introduced dragons are, how the feedback is good, how you are "killing it", and there you go, new customers.

    Of course, that's non-factoring the reviews that will inevitably take a dive as customers feel cheated, the generated mistrust that might cause future communication regarding that product, or the next, or the next next product, to be disregarded entirely, and in the long run the potential loss of long term customers, fans who bought each game and just won't buy the next. But investors and shareholders have never been known for their long time vision. Milk them now, and if the company fails, whatever, just invest elsewere.

    One sure thing is they've seen the last of my money until they fix this mess. Server performance is poor ; dragon, animations are pitiful, they have no interaction whatsoever with their environnement (they don't attack the nearby farmers, and nearby farmers don't even notice the dragon sitting a few meters away from them) ; storytelling is rather uninspired, and 'lo and behold, we get the Mass Effect... effect, as player choices don't matter : you may or may not have killed Sai Sahan in a very specific quest, but he's gonna be back anyway. Oh, and stamina necromancers are currently bugged to hell and back, and then to hell again. No communication on that either. Why would they ? Chances are, some people who haven't bought Elsweyr yet might decide not to if they learn the ckass they want to play is bugged.

    One thing many fail to understand is that silence is a form of communication ("You cannot not communicate", as the saying goes). An unclear one though, that leaves the way opened to many missinterpretation. Is it lazyness ? Failure to fix things that they would rather not admit publicly, while actually saying "we are sorry, we're doing our best but it's trickier than we thought" would go a long way to redeem them ? Is it just spite and a greedy interest in our wallets only ? When left to freely figure what silence means, one will often settle for what they personnaly deem the worst. Having worked my arse off in IT to make sure my customers were satisfied, or at least properly cared for, and often against my boss / company's will, the worst for me is that they wouldn't care, so that's what I settle for. Spite and greed. Maybe I'm wrong, but unless THEY tell us why they never ever bother talking to us, it's as good as any a possibility.

    TLDR : they won't communicate, they don't care about your satisfaction, only that you keep spending money. Or so it seems.

    Those are not CMs, they are forum moderators.I don't know why they aren't distinguishable, but they aren't, unless you know who is who.
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    Ydrisselle, the real point here is if I call someone a f-wit on the forums (no matter how richly deserved it may be), it gets official attention, but game crippling lag/bugs receive zero ackowledgement. I'm not belittleing the work done by forum mods, but there's at the least an issue of perception that arises.
  • kollege14a5
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    This game is not a pvp game. It is about questing, pve and the most important thing making as much money as possible. Fixing the lag is obviously not worth it for them even tho cyro is unplayable from afternoon till evening and it keeps getting worse every patch.
  • ArenGesus
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    This game is not a pvp game. It is about questing, pve and the most important thing making as much money as possible. Fixing the lag is obviously not worth it for them even tho cyro is unplayable from afternoon till evening and it keeps getting worse every patch.

    Normally I would agree, but both questing and pve are really rough right now too. I just started a new character - I need to track down shards, level mages, undaunted, etc. New guy isn't getting to level 30 at this rate, I guarantee it. This game just sucks so bad right now, no matter your playstyle. I'd be shocked if RP'ers, dressup and housing folk aren't being impacted at the moment. I can't stand still in the open world without having audio issues at a minimum, sometimes loading screens too - without even moving.
  • Unfadingsilence
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    This game is not a pvp game. It is about questing, pve and the most important thing making as much money as possible. Fixing the lag is obviously not worth it for them even tho cyro is unplayable from afternoon till evening and it keeps getting worse every patch.

    Did you even watch the clip? It's fine if you did not but they clip shows PVE content just running around and even pvp in pve land and the clips where done from 12am-4am not even during prime time as well as pvp in a dead campaign
  • Uryel
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    Ydrisselle wrote: »
    Those are not CMs, they are forum moderators.I don't know why they aren't distinguishable, but they aren't, unless you know who is who.

    Oh, really ? Maybe the should update their own website, then.

    https://www.zenimaxonline.com/employee/gina-bruno

    And for the french part of the community : https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/fr/discussion/325983/un-nouveau-community-manager
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