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With faction lock now being bugged and all, why not a 30 day none locked campaign?

Heelie
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As someone who does not care about pvp and only do tier 1 every month for crystals, faction lock did nothing but hinder the amount of pve I can do since my monthly income of transmute crystals almost halved. Now with the campaign end it seems both my 30 day campaigns are locked to the same faction without setting a foot in Cyrodil. Which will make it even harder for me to get crystals.

Why can't we just have a none locked campaign for those of us that do not care at all about factions?

If the locked campaigns die with this change maybe faction lock was a bad idea in the first place?

Or maybe, give us 50 crystals for tier 1 in the 7 day campaign?
Edited by Heelie on June 19, 2019 3:52PM
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  • Gilvoth
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    Faction lock is one of the best things zos have (re)added. No point in making characters in different alliances, pick a side/colour and stay with them.
  • MissBizz
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    Did you choose to leave your home campaign when the campaign ends? The game has always kept your same home campaign as previous unless you used that option.
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  • Heelie
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    Gilvoth wrote: »
    Faction lock is one of the best things zos have (re)added. No point in making characters in different alliances, pick a side/colour and stay with them.

    I already made 15 characters with all sky shards and stuff in different alliances though. I am not asking to remove it just for people to be able to avoid it.
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  • Heelie
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    Did you choose to leave your home campaign when the campaign ends? The game has always kept your same home campaign as previous unless you used that option.

    all my characers were sitting at the craglorn wayshrine when I logged in, I checked both the 30 day campaigns and both were locked to AD, as I logged into my "main" an AD character.
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  • therift
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    Crystals aren't an issue. Over the course of a year, the 30 day campaign equates to 1.58 more items transmuted per character in the 30 day campaign over the 7 day campaign.

    Players who have not performed basic arithmetic act as if the difference is huge.
  • Gilvoth
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    make new character, put it in a alliance you like with friends and boom your good to go.
    if want another alliance next time just take your old character.
    not seeing a problem here.
    choose a side stik with it
    if you want another side go to that other side with one of your old characters.
  • Heelie
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    therift wrote: »
    Crystals aren't an issue. Over the course of a year, the 30 day campaign equates to 1.58 more items transmuted per character in the 30 day campaign over the 7 day campaign.

    Players who have not performed basic arithmetic act as if the difference is huge.

    it's far easier and far more fun for a pve player to go to the 30 day campagins for 30 mins per character to farm out crystals, than to have to play the 7 day campaign every week. As pve'ers pvp is our best option for crystals. As someone that raid with two guilds 6 times a week. I have to use at least 100 crystals a week so I really need them.

    You can have you locked campagin and faction pride. I am just asking for people that don't want that, to opt out. Just like you can opt out of CP, opt out of doing vet content, and just buy the monster helmets.
    Edited by Heelie on June 22, 2019 9:18AM
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  • TequilaFire
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    Heelie wrote: »
    therift wrote: »
    Crystals aren't an issue. Over the course of a year, the 30 day campaign equates to 1.58 more items transmuted per character in the 30 day campaign over the 7 day campaign.

    Players who have not performed basic arithmetic act as if the difference is huge.

    it's far easier and far more fun for a pve player to go to the 30 day campagins for 30 mins på character to farm out crystals, than to have to play the 7 day campaign every week. As pve'ers pvp is our best option for crystals. As someone that raid with two guilds 6 times a week. I have to use at least 100 crystals a week so I really need them.

    You can have you locked campagin and faction pride. I am just asking for people that don't want that, to opt out. Just like you can opt out of CP, opt out of doing vet content, and just buy the monster helmets.

    Cyrodiil is not intended to be a transmute crystal farm one of the reasons for deciding to add faction lock back.
  • Apox
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    maybe im in the weird side here but i dont think pvp should be the chief income source of xmute crystals. if youre a pvp main, youre pretty much flooded with them. more xmute crystals and geodes than you can reasonably spend, but if youre a pve main its absolutely barren. getting 2 xmute crystals for a vet pledge each day is laughable.

    maybe pvp xmute gain is fine, but pve xmute gain needs to be improved
  • Gilvoth
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    Heelie wrote: »
    therift wrote: »
    Crystals aren't an issue. Over the course of a year, the 30 day campaign equates to 1.58 more items transmuted per character in the 30 day campaign over the 7 day campaign.

    Players who have not performed basic arithmetic act as if the difference is huge.

    it's far easier and far more fun for a pve player to go to the 30 day campagins for 30 mins på character to farm out crystals, than to have to play the 7 day campaign every week. As pve'ers pvp is our best option for crystals. As someone that raid with two guilds 6 times a week. I have to use at least 100 crystals a week so I really need them.

    You can have you locked campagin and faction pride. I am just asking for people that don't want that, to opt out. Just like you can opt out of CP, opt out of doing vet content, and just buy the monster helmets.

    in that case those people should be black flagged and targettable by ALL alliances on a constant basis and killable by all alliances same thing as a spy in real life wars.

    you get your crystals for disloyalty and treason
    and we get your death sentence = profit for everyone.
  • therift
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    Heelie wrote: »
    therift wrote: »
    Crystals aren't an issue. Over the course of a year, the 30 day campaign equates to 1.58 more items transmuted per character in the 30 day campaign over the 7 day campaign.

    Players who have not performed basic arithmetic act as if the difference is huge.

    it's far easier and far more fun for a pve player to go to the 30 day campagins for 30 mins på character to farm out crystals, than to have to play the 7 day campaign every week. As pve'ers pvp is our best option for crystals. As someone that raid with two guilds 6 times a week. I have to use at least 100 crystals a week so I really need them.

    You can have you locked campagin and faction pride. I am just asking for people that don't want that, to opt out. Just like you can opt out of CP, opt out of doing vet content, and just buy the monster helmets.

    I don't see the value of 7 day campaigns myself. Nor the old 90 day campaigns.

    I agree that there is an imbalance in crystal rewards between PvE and PvP. I quit counting the items I have transmuted at 120 or so; that mark was passed many months ago; many of them have been deconned. It's fairly common for PvPers to delete geodes just to make inventory space.

    Feeling jealous? ;) Vet PvE content at the higher end could and should include a crystal reward structure on par with PvP rewards for dedicated game play; you vet trials guilds need 'em just as much
  • Aries_Aquilarios
    All of these "faction lock" posts are by the same group of people.
    Trying to get there crying noticed by posting the same thing or getting a friend or other forum account to post it.
    It's really funny. Almost the same thing as "nerf sorc" posts and "auction house" posts.
    Edited by Aries_Aquilarios on June 19, 2019 4:01PM
  • Aurielle
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    Cyrodiil is an AvAvA PVP zone, not a Transmutation stone grinding zone.

    Not sure why I have to say this, but it bears repeating for those of you who are complaining about a change that was made for the HEALTH OF AVAVA PVP.
  • Heelie
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    Gilvoth wrote: »
    Heelie wrote: »
    therift wrote: »
    Crystals aren't an issue. Over the course of a year, the 30 day campaign equates to 1.58 more items transmuted per character in the 30 day campaign over the 7 day campaign.

    Players who have not performed basic arithmetic act as if the difference is huge.

    it's far easier and far more fun for a pve player to go to the 30 day campagins for 30 mins på character to farm out crystals, than to have to play the 7 day campaign every week. As pve'ers pvp is our best option for crystals. As someone that raid with two guilds 6 times a week. I have to use at least 100 crystals a week so I really need them.

    You can have you locked campagin and faction pride. I am just asking for people that don't want that, to opt out. Just like you can opt out of CP, opt out of doing vet content, and just buy the monster helmets.

    in that case those people should be black flagged and targettable by ALL alliances on a constant basis and killable by all alliances same thing as a spy in real life wars.

    you get your crystals for disloyalty and treason
    and we get your death sentence = profit for everyone.

    honestly we are not disloyal or doing any sort of treason. We don't care at all about any factions or Cyrodill as a whole.
    Most of us are getting farmed as we are just zerg surfing for our tier 1. If not for the insane difference in transmute gain from pvp to pve, pvp would be even more dead than it is now.

    We are not in cyrodill because we want to
    We are not there for longer than we absloutely need to
    None of us are part of any faction hopping system
    All I ask is that we get a campaign where we get a fair chance at getting tier 1 on every single character so that we can go and play the content that we actually find fun.
    Edited by Heelie on June 22, 2019 9:19AM
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  • templesus
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    Inb4 zerglings zerg down this thread like every other anti-faction lock.

    If you feel a sense of “faction loyalty” in a video game over a screen to the point you want other people to not be able to play at all on certain characters you really need a reality check.
  • Gilvoth
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    Heelie wrote: »
    Gilvoth wrote: »
    Heelie wrote: »
    therift wrote: »
    Crystals aren't an issue. Over the course of a year, the 30 day campaign equates to 1.58 more items transmuted per character in the 30 day campaign over the 7 day campaign.

    Players who have not performed basic arithmetic act as if the difference is huge.

    it's far easier and far more fun for a pve player to go to the 30 day campagins for 30 mins på character to farm out crystals, than to have to play the 7 day campaign every week. As pve'ers pvp is our best option for crystals. As someone that raid with two guilds 6 times a week. I have to use at least 100 crystals a week so I really need them.

    You can have you locked campagin and faction pride. I am just asking for people that don't want that, to opt out. Just like you can opt out of CP, opt out of doing vet content, and just buy the monster helmets.

    in that case those people should be black flagged and targettable by ALL alliances on a constant basis and killable by all alliances same thing as a spy in real life wars.

    you get your crystals for disloyalty and treason
    and we get your death sentence = profit for everyone.

    honestly we are not disloyal or doing any sort of treason. We don't care at all about any factions or Cyrodill as a whole.
    Most of us are getting farmed as we are just zerg surfing for out tier 1. If not for the insane difference in transmute gain from pvp to pve, pvp would be even more dead than it is now.

    We are not in cyrodill because we want to
    We are not there for longer than we absloutely need
    None of us are part of any faction hopping system
    All I ask is that we get a campaign where we get a fair chance at getting tier 1 on every single character so that we can go and play the content that we actually find fun.

    no no no no no
    that IS the definition of disloyalty and Treason
    you refuse to pik a side and instead pick ALL sides and everyone just free for all?
    thats treason and disloyalty to a "T"
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    Cyrodiil is an AvAvA PVP zone, not a Transmutation stone grinding zone.

    Not sure why I have to say this, but it bears repeating for those of you who are complaining about a change that was made for the HEALTH OF AVAVA PVP.

    cool, then remove the 50 xmute crystal geode from cyrodiil rewards.
  • Gilvoth
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    templesus wrote: »
    Inb4 zerglings zerg down this thread like every other anti-faction lock.

    If you feel a sense of “faction loyalty” in a video game over a screen to the point you want other people to not be able to play at all on certain characters you really need a reality check.

    if you want to change alliances constantly then those people should be black flagged and targettable by ALL alliances on a constant basis and killable by all alliances same thing as a spy in real life wars.

    you get your crystals and gold and toys for disloyalty and treason
    and we get your death sentence and removal from leader boards = profit for everyone.
  • Sanguinor2
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    Gilvoth wrote: »

    in that case those people should be black flagged and targettable by ALL alliances on a constant basis and killable by all alliances same thing as a spy in real life wars.

    you get your crystals for disloyalty and treason
    and we get your death sentence = profit for everyone.

    Its Kind of hillarious comparing cyro to a real life war, that being said in a real life war someone wants that Information from the spy so every Party trying to kill them would be a very moronic Thing to do, same with defectors, they usually defect to someone so all parties involved trying to kill them would again be very moronic. (And there is also this Prisoner of war Thing in a real life war, not everyone shoots everyone not wearing their Color on sight)
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  • Heelie
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    templesus wrote: »
    Inb4 zerglings zerg down this thread like every other anti-faction lock.

    If you feel a sense of “faction loyalty” in a video game over a screen to the point you want other people to not be able to play at all on certain characters you really need a reality check.

    When I made my characters in different Alliances I had never set a foot in Cyrodill other than to get vigor and horn. The only reason they are different alliances is because I did'nt care to buy the token that made me able to switch them. All my characters are just the races that were best in slot in pve. I have never done zone quest in my life outside of a few for the skill points. I don't know the lore or anything behind the factions. I can't even remember their names off the top of my head. Like I could not care less about what happends in Cyrodill outside of that fact that I need to go there for 5 hours every month to be able to transmute my raid gear.
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  • markulrich1966
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    I would suggest another solution.

    Reduce the lock from 1 month to 1 week.

    This still avoids quick switches used by those who intend to sabotage the game, but would allow those playing 3 alliances to do their tasks like reaching tier 1 or 3.
  • leepalmer95
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    Faction lock is just to appease the super casual zerglings who take the game far too seriously, most of them are heavily addicted to running about in mega lag zergs and just spamming a button and hoping stuff works. They've been doing it for months/ years.

    Sadly with the horrible balance decisions and zos's clear stance of catering the entire game to people like this most of the skilled pvp'ss left. So yeah most of the people left and just super addicts that fund zos's wallet with the crown store.

    So if you think they'll listen to anyone but people who love zos's overpriced, lazy cosmetics or lootboxes then may as well find another game.
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  • WoppaBoem
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    Heelie wrote: »
    As someone who does not care about pvp and only do tier 1 every month for crystals, faction lock did nothing but hinder the amount of pve I can do since my monthly income of transmute crystals almost halved. Now with the campaign end it seems both my 30 day campaigns are locked to the same faction without setting a foot in Cyrodil. Which will make it even harder for me to get crystals.

    Why can't we just have a none locked campaign for those of us that do not care at all about factions?

    If the locked campaigns die with this change maybe faction lock was a bad idea in the first place?

    Or maybe, give us 50 crystals for tier 1 in the 7 day campaign?

    Lol so there needs to be a new server campaign for 30 days so you can get your 1 tier that takes like 20 minutes. Lol entitled much.

    While doing your request MA weapons should drop on normal same as monster sets, you know because that makes my life in PVP easier all this hinder of Vet content
    Edited by WoppaBoem on June 19, 2019 4:10PM
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  • therift
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    templesus wrote: »
    Inb4 zerglings zerg down this thread like every other anti-faction lock.

    If you feel a sense of “faction loyalty” in a video game over a screen to the point you want other people to not be able to play at all on certain characters you really need a reality check.

    If you feel the need to support cheating in a video game, you really need a reality check
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    therift wrote: »
    templesus wrote: »
    Inb4 zerglings zerg down this thread like every other anti-faction lock.

    If you feel a sense of “faction loyalty” in a video game over a screen to the point you want other people to not be able to play at all on certain characters you really need a reality check.

    If you feel the need to support cheating in a video game, you really need a reality check

    How is people playing more than 1 faction cheating, are you that delusional?
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    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • sevomd69
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    Gilvoth wrote: »
    templesus wrote: »
    Inb4 zerglings zerg down this thread like every other anti-faction lock.

    If you feel a sense of “faction loyalty” in a video game over a screen to the point you want other people to not be able to play at all on certain characters you really need a reality check.

    if you want to change alliances constantly then those people should be black flagged and targettable by ALL alliances on a constant basis and killable by all alliances same thing as a spy in real life wars.

    you get your crystals and gold and toys for disloyalty and treason
    and we get your death sentence and removal from leader boards = profit for everyone.

    LOL...You furreal?
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    Apox wrote: »
    Aurielle wrote: »
    Cyrodiil is an AvAvA PVP zone, not a Transmutation stone grinding zone.

    Not sure why I have to say this, but it bears repeating for those of you who are complaining about a change that was made for the HEALTH OF AVAVA PVP.

    cool, then remove the 50 xmute crystal geode from cyrodiil rewards.

    Sure, when ZOS adds a vendor that allows PVPers to barter AP for impen dungeon gear. :) You understand why PVPers get more transmute stones than PVEers who LIKE running dungeons, right?
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    sevomd69 wrote: »
    Gilvoth wrote: »
    templesus wrote: »
    Inb4 zerglings zerg down this thread like every other anti-faction lock.

    If you feel a sense of “faction loyalty” in a video game over a screen to the point you want other people to not be able to play at all on certain characters you really need a reality check.

    if you want to change alliances constantly then those people should be black flagged and targettable by ALL alliances on a constant basis and killable by all alliances same thing as a spy in real life wars.

    you get your crystals and gold and toys for disloyalty and treason
    and we get your death sentence and removal from leader boards = profit for everyone.

    LOL...You furreal?

    He posts it on every thread, think he needs to go outside, imagine posting stuff like this.

    Takes the game way, way too seriously.
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    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Heelie
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    WoppaBoem wrote: »
    Heelie wrote: »
    As someone who does not care about pvp and only do tier 1 every month for crystals, faction lock did nothing but hinder the amount of pve I can do since my monthly income of transmute crystals almost halved. Now with the campaign end it seems both my 30 day campaigns are locked to the same faction without setting a foot in Cyrodil. Which will make it even harder for me to get crystals.

    Why can't we just have a none locked campaign for those of us that do not care at all about factions?

    If the locked campaigns die with this change maybe faction lock was a bad idea in the first place?

    Or maybe, give us 50 crystals for tier 1 in the 7 day campaign?

    Lol so there needs to be a new server campaign for 30 days so you can get your 1 tier that takes like 20 minutes. Lol

    not only me just all the people that actually dont give two cents about alliances, they can get to play however they like there. A rough estimate is that 90% of pve players only play pvp for skill onlucks and transmute gems. An open campaign would make their life easier.
    Edited by Heelie on June 19, 2019 4:12PM
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  • templesus
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    Gilvoth wrote: »
    templesus wrote: »
    Inb4 zerglings zerg down this thread like every other anti-faction lock.

    If you feel a sense of “faction loyalty” in a video game over a screen to the point you want other people to not be able to play at all on certain characters you really need a reality check.

    if you want to change alliances constantly then those people should be black flagged and targettable by ALL alliances on a constant basis and killable by all alliances same thing as a spy in real life wars.

    you get your crystals and gold and toys for disloyalty and treason
    and we get your death sentence and removal from leader boards = profit for everyone.

    Ok???? That’s fine by me, any small scale player would absolutely love to be able to go into cyrodiil not as part of any faction😂. God that sounds truly amazing. You would get fights everywhere you went.
    Edited by templesus on June 19, 2019 4:12PM
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