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Here's what a noob sorc can do in BG
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Vlad9425✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I’ve played every class quite a bit (apart from Necro) and I always find the Mag Sorc to be the most powerful and versatile PvP class. I do however believe some of the other classes should be buffed instead of Sorc getting nerfed. Just my opinion.2 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Kill stealing with Mage's Wrath really doesn't require skill.
agree, but you see i'm a noob sorc so i'm not really skilled
just to show what a noob can do when playing an OP class
Delparis, look closer at your picture. You have plenty kills - but thats are stolen kills.
Your group mates had 18 and 19 assisted kills which speaks clearly. Using one skill isnt way to win in most fights. Try to do 1v1 with someone skilled.
Why? What does that prove? Most of those “skilled” 1 on 1 players are specifically specked just to duel. Conversely a lot of them would be fodder in Cyrodiil proper.
Let the guy play. At the end of the day it’s about getting a win and AP. That’s the skill right there.
Spam and steal. Do you OP.
You can have nice results with this if you fight for AP, sure. But thats when you move in horde
If you are alone you cant play like this (well you can but thats your shame when you die like *****.)
Play fair, be smart, and if you have to die, die with dignity
I don't play alone as i'm in BG, stealing kills is more amazing that i thought.
But you guys convinced me, I'll put the heart on it and improve to steal more kills
STEAL ALL THE KILLS!!!!
You either win or lose. You either gain AP or you don’t. You are choosing to win and gain AP, so to me that sounds like you’re the most skilled player on here.
I’m sure a lot of the ice skating judges will disagree that your form on your triple toe loop into a Mages Wrath simply isn’t high enough on to warrant a perfect score on their leetometer, but I award you a gold medal in efficiency.
Why use your most dynamic moves when pressing one button works? That’s called logic. Save your best moves for those who deserve them.
I think you really missed the point of the criticism here. The OP was saying that sorc is easy mode because of a BG outcome. The thread is a thinly veiled nerf sorc thread. Not a look how good I am thread. People are rightfully criticizing this assessment by pointing out that low MMR, teammates doing all of the work, spamming executes on low health targets, does not make a class OP. No one seems to be criticizing the steal killing aspect of it. Just criticizing using kill stealing as a crutch to say the class is overperformaing.Edited by jaws343 on June 18, 2019 5:47PM2 -
Delparis✭✭✭✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Kill stealing with Mage's Wrath really doesn't require skill.
agree, but you see i'm a noob sorc so i'm not really skilled
just to show what a noob can do when playing an OP class
Delparis, look closer at your picture. You have plenty kills - but thats are stolen kills.
Your group mates had 18 and 19 assisted kills which speaks clearly. Using one skill isnt way to win in most fights. Try to do 1v1 with someone skilled.
Why? What does that prove? Most of those “skilled” 1 on 1 players are specifically specked just to duel. Conversely a lot of them would be fodder in Cyrodiil proper.
Let the guy play. At the end of the day it’s about getting a win and AP. That’s the skill right there.
Spam and steal. Do you OP.
You can have nice results with this if you fight for AP, sure. But thats when you move in horde
If you are alone you cant play like this (well you can but thats your shame when you die like *****.)
Play fair, be smart, and if you have to die, die with dignity
I don't play alone as i'm in BG, stealing kills is more amazing that i thought.
But you guys convinced me, I'll put the heart on it and improve to steal more kills
STEAL ALL THE KILLS!!!!
You either win or lose. You either gain AP or you don’t. You are choosing to win and gain AP, so to me that sounds like you’re the most skilled player on here.
I’m sure a lot of the ice skating judges will disagree that your form on your triple toe loop into a Mages Wrath simply isn’t high enough on to warrant a perfect score on their leetometer, but I award you a gold medal in efficiency.
Why use your most dynamic moves when pressing one button works? That’s called logic. Save your best moves for those who deserve them.
I think you really missed the point of the criticism here. The OP was saying that sorc is easy mode because of a BG outcome. The thread is a thinly veiled nerf sorc thread. Not a look how good I am thread. People are rightfully criticizing this assessment by pointing out that low MMR, teammates doing all of the work, spamming executes on low health targets, does not make a class OP. No one seems to be criticizing the steal killing aspect of it. Just criticizing using kill stealing as a crutch to say the class is overperformaing.
No that's you who don't understand what i meant with this thread.
The point is how easy to chain kills with sorc, that's why every noob in bg or pvp in general should play sorc and slot only those skills in his front bar:- Hardened Ward
- Dampen Magic
- Mage's Wrath
Then just spam shields and mage's wrath for easy win.
Gear doesn't matter as long you have 30k magicka and 20k health, you can even play with SnB ...1 -
Anyron✭✭✭✭✭
✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Kill stealing with Mage's Wrath really doesn't require skill.
agree, but you see i'm a noob sorc so i'm not really skilled
just to show what a noob can do when playing an OP class
Delparis, look closer at your picture. You have plenty kills - but thats are stolen kills.
Your group mates had 18 and 19 assisted kills which speaks clearly. Using one skill isnt way to win in most fights. Try to do 1v1 with someone skilled.
Why? What does that prove? Most of those “skilled” 1 on 1 players are specifically specked just to duel. Conversely a lot of them would be fodder in Cyrodiil proper.
Let the guy play. At the end of the day it’s about getting a win and AP. That’s the skill right there.
Spam and steal. Do you OP.
You can have nice results with this if you fight for AP, sure. But thats when you move in horde
If you are alone you cant play like this (well you can but thats your shame when you die like *****.)
Play fair, be smart, and if you have to die, die with dignity
That’s totally fair. I’m mostly just tired of this forum devolving into an immeasurable contest of nonsensical ego pumping by people who feel an incessant need to criticize people unnecessarily.
It’s always been a problem but the level of “you suck brah, go duel and get wrecked” type responses has increased exponentially lately.
All i wanted to say before,was you cannot judge one class because of one skill. Everyone can spam finisher and they can have kills. But it doesn't mean that class is OP (i think even bot can do it)
That skill is very situational and its complete trash in pve tbhEdited by Anyron on June 18, 2019 5:53PM3 -
sunbro38✭✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Playing as sorc (alt), don't even know what i was doing, just spamming shields and mage's wrath
Easy win
Hey look, another thread where someone pointed something out politely that spawned about 2 dozen ESO ice skating judges to critique his artistic integrity.
The humanity! Someone using an execute to execute opponents properly! But but but, you didn’t medium weave, while block casting, with one eye open onto a CP 97,000 overlord while 1 v Xing 47 players on Twitch! How dare you have fun!
Good work OP. Play your game. Ignore the ignorant.
still mad over one person making a new account on the forums and calling you bad?
get over it kid. 2 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Kill stealing with Mage's Wrath really doesn't require skill.
agree, but you see i'm a noob sorc so i'm not really skilled
just to show what a noob can do when playing an OP class
Delparis, look closer at your picture. You have plenty kills - but thats are stolen kills.
Your group mates had 18 and 19 assisted kills which speaks clearly. Using one skill isnt way to win in most fights. Try to do 1v1 with someone skilled.
Why? What does that prove? Most of those “skilled” 1 on 1 players are specifically specked just to duel. Conversely a lot of them would be fodder in Cyrodiil proper.
Let the guy play. At the end of the day it’s about getting a win and AP. That’s the skill right there.
Spam and steal. Do you OP.
You can have nice results with this if you fight for AP, sure. But thats when you move in horde
If you are alone you cant play like this (well you can but thats your shame when you die like *****.)
Play fair, be smart, and if you have to die, die with dignity
I don't play alone as i'm in BG, stealing kills is more amazing that i thought.
But you guys convinced me, I'll put the heart on it and improve to steal more kills
STEAL ALL THE KILLS!!!!
You either win or lose. You either gain AP or you don’t. You are choosing to win and gain AP, so to me that sounds like you’re the most skilled player on here.
I’m sure a lot of the ice skating judges will disagree that your form on your triple toe loop into a Mages Wrath simply isn’t high enough on to warrant a perfect score on their leetometer, but I award you a gold medal in efficiency.
Why use your most dynamic moves when pressing one button works? That’s called logic. Save your best moves for those who deserve them.
I think you really missed the point of the criticism here. The OP was saying that sorc is easy mode because of a BG outcome. The thread is a thinly veiled nerf sorc thread. Not a look how good I am thread. People are rightfully criticizing this assessment by pointing out that low MMR, teammates doing all of the work, spamming executes on low health targets, does not make a class OP. No one seems to be criticizing the steal killing aspect of it. Just criticizing using kill stealing as a crutch to say the class is overperformaing.
No that's you who don't understand what i meant with this thread.
The point is how easy to chain kills with sorc, that's why every noob in bg or pvp in general should play sorc and slot only those skills in his front bar:- Hardened Ward
- Dampen Magic
- Mage's Wrath
Then just spam shields and mage's wrath for easy win.
Gear doesn't matter as long you have 30k magicka and 20k health, you can even play with SnB ...
So, exactly what I said then. You think sorc is easy mode because you stole kills from teammates. Good job I guess. I get kills on my sorc in BGs, many of which are a result of pressure from my team and my execute, doesn't make the class good. Or bad. And certainly doesn't require a thread bragging that you know how to play a class one dimensionally.
Also, good luck playing sorc in any gear you want with a sword and board. I'm sure you'll just pack everyone up with your OPness.Edited by jaws343 on June 18, 2019 5:57PM3 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭All this does is prove what we have known about sorcs for a long time. You are in a low MMR BG, sorcs excel at nuking pugs, and pugs whine on the forums about getting killed by sorcs. Also, water is wet.
Edit: Missed the assist numbers. No secret that a sorc in group can be useful to make sure kills get finished off. That is something the class brings to the table. But four sorcs spamming executes doesnt do a lot. Almost nobody runs it in PVE these days, and it's merit is frankly debatable in PVP at this point with the dodge chance.Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on June 20, 2019 4:53AM5 -
Delparis✭✭✭✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Kill stealing with Mage's Wrath really doesn't require skill.
agree, but you see i'm a noob sorc so i'm not really skilled
just to show what a noob can do when playing an OP class
Delparis, look closer at your picture. You have plenty kills - but thats are stolen kills.
Your group mates had 18 and 19 assisted kills which speaks clearly. Using one skill isnt way to win in most fights. Try to do 1v1 with someone skilled.
Why? What does that prove? Most of those “skilled” 1 on 1 players are specifically specked just to duel. Conversely a lot of them would be fodder in Cyrodiil proper.
Let the guy play. At the end of the day it’s about getting a win and AP. That’s the skill right there.
Spam and steal. Do you OP.
You can have nice results with this if you fight for AP, sure. But thats when you move in horde
If you are alone you cant play like this (well you can but thats your shame when you die like *****.)
Play fair, be smart, and if you have to die, die with dignity
That’s totally fair. I’m mostly just tired of this forum devolving into an immeasurable contest of nonsensical ego pumping by people who feel an incessant need to criticize people unnecessarily.
It’s always been a problem but the level of “you suck brah, go duel and get wrecked” type responses has increased exponentially lately.
All i wanted to say before,was you cannot judge one class because of one skill. Everyone can spam finisher and they can have kills. But it doesn't mean that class is OP (i think even bot can do it)
That skill is very situational and its complete trash in pve tbh
Edited by Delparis on June 18, 2019 6:04PM1 -
THEDKEXPERIENCE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Playing as sorc (alt), don't even know what i was doing, just spamming shields and mage's wrath
Easy win
Hey look, another thread where someone pointed something out politely that spawned about 2 dozen ESO ice skating judges to critique his artistic integrity.
The humanity! Someone using an execute to execute opponents properly! But but but, you didn’t medium weave, while block casting, with one eye open onto a CP 97,000 overlord while 1 v Xing 47 players on Twitch! How dare you have fun!
Good work OP. Play your game. Ignore the ignorant.
still mad over one person making a new account on the forums and calling you bad? get over it kid.
Considering that a bunch of those “people” are in this thread, and that you have logged on 5 times in 2 years to your account but specifically remember that it was me ... I ask again.
Exactly how many forum accounts do you have?1 -
DKMaestro✭✭✭Playing as sorc (alt), don't even know what i was doing, just spamming shields and mage's wrath
Easy win
Wow another poorly disguised "nerf sorc" thread!
Must have taken a lot of skill to constantly kill a team of two players.
I play a sorc. Take it into high MMA and then show me how OP it is. Sure a great players can be good on any toon, and they all require some skill, but playing in a PUG group, and you are just as easily on the other side of that score.
If you are unhappy with how easy it is, go make another toon and start playing that. How about a stamina necromancer? Stamina DK, dual wield master axes, werewolves, the choice is yours.Old man playing. Have a life, a job and only one character, which is grumpy (all the time)4 -
DKMaestro✭✭✭
LOL. Hardly. Most people have no business posting and complaining. I can complain how broken every class is, if specced and played the right way.
Do you think that OP, would last for a second against any stamina class, playing a sorc that only used divines, wrath and shield. Come on..Old man playing. Have a life, a job and only one character, which is grumpy (all the time)3 -
Delparis✭✭✭✭✭Playing as sorc (alt), don't even know what i was doing, just spamming shields and mage's wrath
Easy win
Wow another poorly disguised "nerf sorc" thread!
Must have taken a lot of skill to constantly kill a team of two players.
I play a sorc. Take it into high MMA and then show me how OP it is. Sure a great players can be good on any toon, and they all require some skill, but playing in a PUG group, and you are just as easily on the other side of that score.
If you are unhappy with how easy it is, go make another toon and start playing that. How about a stamina necromancer? Stamina DK, dual wield master axes, werewolves, the choice is yours.
Unhappy ? ofc not
This class is great, OP and so easy to play. look at those kills, i've never got that many on my main.
I highly suggest every new players to the game to play as a sorc or nightblade
LOL. Hardly. Most people have no business posting and complaining. I can complain how broken every class is, if specced and played the right way.
Do you think that OP, would last for a second against any stamina class, playing a sorc that only used divines, wrath and shield. Come on..
go in bg, i'll let my team mates lower you health and steal the kill after
Edited by Delparis on June 18, 2019 7:30PM0 -
THEDKEXPERIENCE✭✭✭✭✭
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LOL. Hardly. Most people have no business posting and complaining. I can complain how broken every class is, if specced and played the right way.
Do you think that OP, would last for a second against any stamina class, playing a sorc that only used divines, wrath and shield. Come on..
Yes. And he’d probably do quite well.
Maybe he wouldn’t be able to defeat your mysteriously perfectly tuned stamina player in a homogeneous 1 on 1 bubble where you both clear your ultimates and proceed to measure the size of your two handed swords against your chosen meta based upon some YouTube god ... but last for a second. Yes. I’d even bet that he’d likely have a pretty good kill to death ratio in large normal battles because he is clearly smart enough to fight his fight.
Anyone else want to give an inexplicable non-example about how killing things efficiently while scoring well as his team wins isn’t skill?
This forum continually amazes me with how some people continue to view how fast you can hit buttons as equaling skill, when most of ESO skill in actual PVP involves being prepared for anything, not being prepared for 1 thing only.Edited by THEDKEXPERIENCE on June 18, 2019 7:50PM4 -
david_m_18b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Kill stealing with Mage's Wrath really doesn't require skill.
agree, but you see i'm a noob sorc so i'm not really skilled
just to show what a noob can do when playing an OP class
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »
LOL. Hardly. Most people have no business posting and complaining. I can complain how broken every class is, if specced and played the right way.
Do you think that OP, would last for a second against any stamina class, playing a sorc that only used divines, wrath and shield. Come on..
Yes. And he’d probably do quite well.
Maybe he wouldn’t be able to defeat your mysteriously perfectly tuned stamina player in a homogeneous 1 on 1 bubble where you both clear your ultimates and proceed to measure the size of your two handed swords against your chosen meta based upon some YouTube god ... but last for a second. Yes. I’d even bet that he’d likely have a pretty good kill to death ratio in large normal battles because he is clearly smart enough to fight his fight.
Anyone else want to give an inexplicable non-example about how killing things efficiently while scoring well as his team wins isn’t skill?
This forum continually amazes me with how some people continue to view how fast you can hit buttons as equaling skill, when most of ESO skill in actual PVP involves being prepared for anything, not being prepared for 1 thing only.
What are you talking about? The op literally says this required no skill. His whole point of this thread was to point out how magically OP the class is without skill. Which is wrong and is attributing kill stealing to being OP. Which is what everyone here is saying. Except you for some reason.Seraphayel wrote: »Kill stealing with Mage's Wrath really doesn't require skill.
agree, but you see i'm a noob sorc so i'm not really skilled
just to show what a noob can do when playing an OP class
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THEDKEXPERIENCE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »
LOL. Hardly. Most people have no business posting and complaining. I can complain how broken every class is, if specced and played the right way.
Do you think that OP, would last for a second against any stamina class, playing a sorc that only used divines, wrath and shield. Come on..
Yes. And he’d probably do quite well.
Maybe he wouldn’t be able to defeat your mysteriously perfectly tuned stamina player in a homogeneous 1 on 1 bubble where you both clear your ultimates and proceed to measure the size of your two handed swords against your chosen meta based upon some YouTube god ... but last for a second. Yes. I’d even bet that he’d likely have a pretty good kill to death ratio in large normal battles because he is clearly smart enough to fight his fight.
Anyone else want to give an inexplicable non-example about how killing things efficiently while scoring well as his team wins isn’t skill?
This forum continually amazes me with how some people continue to view how fast you can hit buttons as equaling skill, when most of ESO skill in actual PVP involves being prepared for anything, not being prepared for 1 thing only.
What are you talking about? The op literally says this required no skill. His whole point of this thread was to point out how magically OP the class is without skill. Which is wrong and is attributing kill stealing to being OP. Which is what everyone here is saying. Except you for some reason.Seraphayel wrote: »Kill stealing with Mage's Wrath really doesn't require skill.
agree, but you see i'm a noob sorc so i'm not really skilled
just to show what a noob can do when playing an OP class
It is a no skill move.
I’m taking issue with the people who equate 1 post about a no skill move into taunts about how the player could never survive “real” PvP or other nonsense, like the person who said he couldn’t last a second with a real stamina player.
The lack of skill needed to spam this ability is fine, but it shows the intelligence of the OP by recognizing this and not being bothered to show off his best stuff when it’s unnecessary.
Intelligence is a skill that far outpaces how fast you can hit a button or clown strangers on message boards.1 -
Urvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭How exactly does playing in low MMR BGs demonstrate anything? Half the people in there don't even know how to roll dodge. I've gotten similar results on a magnecro, which is pretty much the worst class in the game atm and doesn't even have an execute...
Edited by Urvoth on June 18, 2019 9:31PM0 -
Urvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭To make thing clear that's a new toon yes but i'm CP +1000 so don't come and talk about mmr.
Pretty sure that mmr is also broken the same way bg finder is.
Any way this isn't a post for nerf sorc or buff something else, just to highlight how much it's easy to chain kills.
Maybe some noobs will find this insightful and go play sorc. It's a OP for BG so why playing something else.
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Urvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »
LOL. Hardly. Most people have no business posting and complaining. I can complain how broken every class is, if specced and played the right way.
Do you think that OP, would last for a second against any stamina class, playing a sorc that only used divines, wrath and shield. Come on..
Yes. And he’d probably do quite well.
Maybe he wouldn’t be able to defeat your mysteriously perfectly tuned stamina player in a homogeneous 1 on 1 bubble where you both clear your ultimates and proceed to measure the size of your two handed swords against your chosen meta based upon some YouTube god ... but last for a second. Yes. I’d even bet that he’d likely have a pretty good kill to death ratio in large normal battles because he is clearly smart enough to fight his fight.
Anyone else want to give an inexplicable non-example about how killing things efficiently while scoring well as his team wins isn’t skill?
This forum continually amazes me with how some people continue to view how fast you can hit buttons as equaling skill, when most of ESO skill in actual PVP involves being prepared for anything, not being prepared for 1 thing only.
What are you talking about? The op literally says this required no skill. His whole point of this thread was to point out how magically OP the class is without skill. Which is wrong and is attributing kill stealing to being OP. Which is what everyone here is saying. Except you for some reason.Seraphayel wrote: »Kill stealing with Mage's Wrath really doesn't require skill.
agree, but you see i'm a noob sorc so i'm not really skilled
just to show what a noob can do when playing an OP class
It is a no skill move.
I’m taking issue with the people who equate 1 post about a no skill move into taunts about how the player could never survive “real” PvP or other nonsense, like the person who said he couldn’t last a second with a real stamina player.
The lack of skill needed to spam this ability is fine, but it shows the intelligence of the OP by recognizing this and not being bothered to show off his best stuff when it’s unnecessary.
Intelligence is a skill that far outpaces how fast you can hit a button or clown strangers on message boards.
Intelligence as in holding M1 to just keep heavy attacking people with a lightning staff instead of using skills?0 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Playing as sorc (alt), don't even know what i was doing, just spamming shields and mage's wrath
Easy win
Sometimes you just get lucky and land in a battleground with new or inexperienced players. I've been in battlegrounds before where even my defensive tank character can decimate people. So it's just the luck of the draw.
If you want to test your sorcerer for real I would suggest going to Cyrodil. That's where the macro-wielding PvP fiends tend to hang out. Those are the ones who will show you what your character is really made of.
Sorcerers are certainly powerful. They have some nasty burst and their ability to encircle themselves with an army of pets to distract your targeting is so irritating it's probably best I not go into detail about it otherwise I'll probably get banned for foul language. But all that being said: I haven't noticed sorcerers being particularly OP on this game. Damage generally is just out of control on this game with macro users running around dumping their ultimates and programmed bursts on people for cheap and stupid kills. Sorcerers do it - but so do a lot of other classes.Edited by Jeremy on June 18, 2019 10:14PM2 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭1)You didn't screenshot damage
2)Kill stealing with 1 button does not require skill nor does it make you particularly powerful or efficient
3)Try low lvl ww, you'll get like 30 kills or more in low mmr bgs.
3/10 bait, try again.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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Kidgangster101✭✭✭✭✭
✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Playing as sorc (alt), don't even know what i was doing, just spamming shields and mage's wrath
Easy win
Hey look, another thread where someone pointed something out politely that spawned about 2 dozen ESO ice skating judges to critique his artistic integrity.
The humanity! Someone using an execute to execute opponents properly! But but but, you didn’t medium weave, while block casting, with one eye open onto a CP 97,000 overlord while 1 v Xing 47 players on Twitch! How dare you have fun!
Good work OP. Play your game. Ignore the ignorant.
Oh no it's @THEDKEXPERIENCE! He is one to be feared in pvp! He has over 40,000 kills and 100 kills a day! He said grothdar hides all of Templars weaknesses even has a video to prove it!
https://xboxclips.com/THEDKEXPERIENCE/c8b1bcc0-d0e8-41b5-88ed-b6f8ce0eef42
Now if you pay attention he clearly knows what he is talking about. Grothdar is so op hitting the air as he spams heavy attacks while it is up and no one is even near him. He is so amazing at pvp since he hid all his weaknesses as he stated in another thread (he is asked to be closed after being laughed out of it) that he ran from a 1v1 fight. But if he hid all his weaknesses he should have been able to use grothdar body the guy really quick and go back to his Zerg, no?
He clearly doesn't know how to fight in pvp without the assistance of a Zerg, so how could he understand how classes work in pvp. Of course you are praising someone for hitting a one button execute, as it's eeriely similar to the trashcan gameplay you graced the forums with.
You know those duelers you speak of are the ones that 1vX people like you right? They tend to be very talented players that make full groups look bad. I'm sure XBox's finest have rinsed you by now if you dared to stray from your Zerg.
You say you know balance, but the OP bragging about spamming execute stealing kills isn't going to make him a better player. Encouraging him to play like that is going to make him more like you. People are not wanting their class to get nerfed due to people with inexperienced on the class saying x move is overpowered.
OP if you want to improve on this game listen and take advice from people and practice doing more than just spamming one move. It is a great feeling when you go 19-2 with almost 1million damage out in a bg match rather than 26 kills and very little damage to go with it. Against higher level players your strategy will actually just get you killed over and over again, and in a lot of BG matches players don't stick together either meaning if you are use to just 1 button over and over again spamming an execute you will die very fast when you are alone.
Please stop pretending like you are good at pvp and stop leading players down your dumpster path because it only hurts them following a inexperienced player that can't handle criticism on his build. Being off-meta and formidable is one thing, but treating enemy players like a bad DPS would treat a PVE trash mob is another.
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Lisutaris✭✭✭✭✭Just quit.
Can this one haz your stuff ?To make thing clear that's a new toon yes but i'm CP +1000 so don't come and talk about mmr.
Pretty sure that mmr is also broken the same way bg finder is.
Any way this isn't a post for nerf sorc or buff something else, just to highlight how much it's easy to chain kills.
Maybe some noobs will find this insightful and go play sorc. It's a OP for BG so why playing something else.
So basically you don't know how MMR works?
THX!! THX !!! As @Urvoth has already said, you don't know how mmr works.
Btw, here for you...
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✭I made a mag sorc and a stam blade recently - got bolth to lvl 30
the mag sorc comes away from BG's with 6k in score and between 15-30 killing blows, it can solo world bosses in white gear found on the floor ( i am max cp )
My stam blade, well ... it cant, it has no class heal / no class shields. nothing.2 -
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✭✭✭✭Kidgangster101 wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Playing as sorc (alt), don't even know what i was doing, just spamming shields and mage's wrath
Easy win
Hey look, another thread where someone pointed something out politely that spawned about 2 dozen ESO ice skating judges to critique his artistic integrity.
The humanity! Someone using an execute to execute opponents properly! But but but, you didn’t medium weave, while block casting, with one eye open onto a CP 97,000 overlord while 1 v Xing 47 players on Twitch! How dare you have fun!
Good work OP. Play your game. Ignore the ignorant.
Oh no it's @THEDKEXPERIENCE! He is one to be feared in pvp! He has over 40,000 kills and 100 kills a day! He said grothdar hides all of Templars weaknesses even has a video to prove it!
https://xboxclips.com/THEDKEXPERIENCE/c8b1bcc0-d0e8-41b5-88ed-b6f8ce0eef42
Now if you pay attention he clearly knows what he is talking about. Grothdar is so op hitting the air as he spams heavy attacks while it is up and no one is even near him. He is so amazing at pvp since he hid all his weaknesses as he stated in another thread (he is asked to be closed after being laughed out of it) that he ran from a 1v1 fight. But if he hid all his weaknesses he should have been able to use grothdar body the guy really quick and go back to his Zerg, no?
He clearly doesn't know how to fight in pvp without the assistance of a Zerg, so how could he understand how classes work in pvp. Of course you are praising someone for hitting a one button execute, as it's eeriely similar to the trashcan gameplay you graced the forums with.
You know those duelers you speak of are the ones that 1vX people like you right? They tend to be very talented players that make full groups look bad. I'm sure XBox's finest have rinsed you by now if you dared to stray from your Zerg.
You say you know balance, but the OP bragging about spamming execute stealing kills isn't going to make him a better player. Encouraging him to play like that is going to make him more like you. People are not wanting their class to get nerfed due to people with inexperienced on the class saying x move is overpowered.
OP if you want to improve on this game listen and take advice from people and practice doing more than just spamming one move. It is a great feeling when you go 19-2 with almost 1million damage out in a bg match rather than 26 kills and very little damage to go with it. Against higher level players your strategy will actually just get you killed over and over again, and in a lot of BG matches players don't stick together either meaning if you are use to just 1 button over and over again spamming an execute you will die very fast when you are alone.
Please stop pretending like you are good at pvp and stop leading players down your dumpster path because it only hurts them following a inexperienced player that can't handle criticism on his build. Being off-meta and formidable is one thing, but treating enemy players like a bad DPS would treat a PVE trash mob is another.
I’m so glad that I’ve inspired you to write a 10,000 word wall of text. Would you like my autograph?3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »
LOL. Hardly. Most people have no business posting and complaining. I can complain how broken every class is, if specced and played the right way.
Do you think that OP, would last for a second against any stamina class, playing a sorc that only used divines, wrath and shield. Come on..
Yes. And he’d probably do quite well.
Maybe he wouldn’t be able to defeat your mysteriously perfectly tuned stamina player in a homogeneous 1 on 1 bubble where you both clear your ultimates and proceed to measure the size of your two handed swords against your chosen meta based upon some YouTube god ... but last for a second. Yes. I’d even bet that he’d likely have a pretty good kill to death ratio in large normal battles because he is clearly smart enough to fight his fight.
Anyone else want to give an inexplicable non-example about how killing things efficiently while scoring well as his team wins isn’t skill?
This forum continually amazes me with how some people continue to view how fast you can hit buttons as equaling skill, when most of ESO skill in actual PVP involves being prepared for anything, not being prepared for 1 thing only.
What are you talking about? The op literally says this required no skill. His whole point of this thread was to point out how magically OP the class is without skill. Which is wrong and is attributing kill stealing to being OP. Which is what everyone here is saying. Except you for some reason.Seraphayel wrote: »Kill stealing with Mage's Wrath really doesn't require skill.
agree, but you see i'm a noob sorc so i'm not really skilled
just to show what a noob can do when playing an OP class
It is a no skill move.
I’m taking issue with the people who equate 1 post about a no skill move into taunts about how the player could never survive “real” PvP or other nonsense, like the person who said he couldn’t last a second with a real stamina player.
The lack of skill needed to spam this ability is fine, but it shows the intelligence of the OP by recognizing this and not being bothered to show off his best stuff when it’s unnecessary.
Intelligence is a skill that far outpaces how fast you can hit a button or clown strangers on message boards.
As someone said earlier, you’re missing the OP’s point in posting this thread. OP is the same guy who is “protesting” against ZOS for making Templars “underpowered” by going into BGs completely naked and just letting other people kill him, with no regard whatsoever for his team. This is a thread about how “OP” magicka sorcerers supposedly are, and is thus a barely veiled nerf sorc thread.
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Kolzki✭✭✭✭✭Nice scores from the team mates too with all those assists that they didn't get the killing blow on. What classes were they playing?0
