Necromancers! Zenimax's greatest flop so far?

RGFors · June 2019

What a provocative title, great click bait! I’m having fun with mine, sorry you aren’t OP.

LordVox · June 2019

Dinokstrun wrote: »

I didn't think it could be possible to design such a boring and clunky class but Necromancer just feels painful to play. The ultimates however feel like you're activating some kind of cheatcode as they're all ridiculously strong but outside ultimates Necromancer just feels bland and sluggish to play and of course we have the wonky corpse mechanics and poor AI blastbones. At first it was fun but I've quickly been burnt out by this slow paced class.

Maybe I just need some inspiration on how to make Necromancer (specifically stamina necromancer) as I'm struggling to find alternative ways to find success with this class. Feel free to post some fun and interesting Suggestions for Stam necro.

Stamina Necros are where it is at, magcros are kinda potato's

Unit117 · June 2019

The class just doesn’t feel like a necromancer should to me which is pretty sad imo. I love Necromacers

mayasunrising · June 2019

I disagree with the OP. I find the class really fun to play. The only feedback I could give is some of the animations are WAY too long in combat situations sometimes, but I still like watching them. :P

Cinbri · June 2019

If you build necro to beat algorithmic game code, i.e. mobs - necro can be strong and can fill different roles.
If you build necro to beat actual people, i.e. pvp - necro biggest fail for last years. Disfunctional class uncapable to be bis in anything nor bring anything unique outside of abusing goliath bash, noone would notice if class would be deleted from pvp.
At least there is finally class that 100% below templars in food chain.

Eldar_Ftw · June 2019

Necromancers is probably my fav class/arch type to play in RPGs/MMOs and I was pretty excited to see them released in ESO.

Got it to lvl 50, toyed with healing necro, stam necro and mag necro and I have to say this is the worst attempt at portraying a necromancer in any game I've played.

IzzyStardust · June 2019

DarkShadowFax wrote: »

I have no idea what you're talking about. I love my necro healer

Thiiiiis!

HorrorShow · June 2019

I am enjoying this undead themed class that chooses to self identify as a necromancer.

It isn't a necromancer, but still a fun class.

Ohtimbar · June 2019

I'll echo the sentiment that the class is reasonably fun, but doesn't quite capture the Necromancer concept, as I imagine it.

EmEm_Oh · June 2019

Dinokstrun wrote: »

I didn't think it could be possible to design such a boring and clunky class but Necromancer just feels painful to play. The ultimates however feel like you're activating some kind of cheatcode as they're all ridiculously strong but outside ultimates Necromancer just feels bland and sluggish to play and of course we have the wonky corpse mechanics and poor AI blastbones. At first it was fun but I've quickly been burnt out by this slow paced class.

Maybe I just need some inspiration on how to make Necromancer (specifically stamina necromancer) as I'm struggling to find alternative ways to find success with this class. Feel free to post some fun and interesting Suggestions for Stam necro.

You need to play Necro more. Give it 6 months. It's way too early to discard a new class. Some bugs, yes. Some issues, yes.

WeylandLabs · June 2019

Let's be honest here - Necro PvE and PvE parse dummie testing is good - Necro PvP is awful the worst class I ever seen, and that beats the 2014-2015 Stam Sorc.

You can tell they designed it strictly for PvE. What's even worse is when the class reps said 6 months ago. It didn't even have stamina morphs. 😂 Its a rushed class - give it 6 months to a year it should be in a better spot.

But then again - I'm kinda over waiting, seems they don't really care about the vet player base.

Sotha_Sil · June 2019

I might not be perfect, but at least they tried to do something different and they get some credit for it. Next classes will get better and better.

luen79rwb17_ESO · June 2019

Fluff-wise I posted ever since PTS that Necro summons don't look vile or aggresive. The stance, attack animatios, everything makes them seem like a robot toy following you everywhere.

Class needs more necro attitude

SpankinDamob · June 2019

Jaraal wrote: »

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

*shrug* Don't play necros so have no clue. Never played them in any game, never will. Sucks to have an added class that I just can't bring myself to play.... Would have rather had ANYTHING else. Bard.... yeah. With all those great pieces of music, vocals.... in Elsweyr. Bard. *SIGH*

Hadn't thought of that but that would be an interesting class to play.

Easily the toughest class to play (well) in EverQuest. Every song has a residual duration, and the bard is tasked to keep the songs woven effectively to buff or DOT, or both.

I loved playing with bards in Everquest. One of my good friends from it played one and I played a Necro. Was a blast fear kiting stuff.

Kolache · June 2019

Blastbones can be problematic and there are a few sorta clunky mechanics (like hitting your pets with empowering grasp) but overall I think it's one of the most fun and interesting magicka classes to play in ESO.

khajiitNPC · June 2019

I’ve been enjoying all 3 necros. I lvled a magicka PvE one, did the main Elsweyr quest and all the side quests and mural hunter ect, probably got to about lvl 30, then grinded the remaining lvls. Another one, stamina, I have sitting at lvl 25 been BGing with him. And the last I have lvled to weapon swap s&b.

I’m not sure why people feel like it’s clunky. On the magicka side you have plenty of corpses to do most abilities in PvE, same with tanking, I for one like this mechanic. This caveat to abilities makes it unique.

regime211 · June 2019

DarkShadowFax wrote: »

I have no idea what you're talking about. I love my necro healer

Yeah as a healer it would be fun, but dps wise it's boring as hell.

Jaraal · June 2019

regime211 wrote: »

dps wise it's boring as hell.

Try weaving Ruinous Scythe with Steel Tornado while you have the Ruffian passive and the Exploiter CP perk. Every third cast of RS sets enemies off balance, and the 25% damage buffed ST wipes out packs with a quickness. Pair up with another necro or two and keep enemies perma-disoriented for even more damage.

kaisernick · June 2019

I think your op is a little missleading after all everyone has different tastes.
For example i for one find warden dps boring as hell and would love for it to change but i do not posts topics on it as it is just my opinion.

Not having a go at you just saying if its not to your liking that does suck if you were looking forward to them (like i was with Warden) but it doesnt mean they are a failure.

Hoolielulu · June 2019

I love my necro. We're kicking butt all over the place.

Qbiken · June 2019

Agree with OP, there´s not much about necromancer that I find appealing at the moment. It´s obvious that the class was rushed (as with the entire Elsweyr chapter) and needed a lot more work to it. Add several malfuntioning skills on top of that and the class is just underwhelming.

The class is obviously designed with PvE in mind, seeing how stamina necromancer is the top tier pick for stamina DPS, and magicka necromancer a solid pick as a healer. PvP seems to have been forgotten when the class was designed.

So what´s good about the class? The class has very powerful passives and 3 overperforming ultimates, and that´s about it. The class has been out for a month, and I already see people dropping the class due to how underwhelming it is. For the casual crowd* the class is probably enjoyable since there´re some cool animations attached to the skills, but for anyone who wants something more out of it, it´s a horrible class.

In PvP, the class offers little to nothing outside of their 3 overperforming ultimates. Necromancer needs to be viable in PvP outside of abusing some ultimates for a nisched playstyle.

* People who only enjoy chilling doing overland/normal content, roleplay, easier veteran content etc...

max_only · June 2019

Necromancers! Zenimax's greatest flop so far?

You say flop, but the pvp whiners say OP. I think the “flop” is in the eye of the beholder.

AbysmalGhul · June 2019

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Class needs more cowbell

Fixed that for you

Gelston · June 2019

I came back purely to play the new zone and try out a Necromancer. I'm enjoying it. I was expecting more of a "pet class", but I guess we already have two of those and they didn't want another. I was thinking we'd have some skeletons and flesh atronachs and such running around with us. The path they took is, obviously, different... and at first I was a little peeved, but I'm having fun.

barney2525 · June 2019

DarkShadowFax wrote: »

I have no idea what you're talking about. I love my necro healer

Isn't that a contradiction in terms?

Seraphayel · June 2019

max_only wrote: »

Necromancers! Zenimax's greatest flop so far?

You say flop, but the pvp whiners say OP. I think the “flop” is in the eye of the beholder.

A class can be OP in PvP due to bad design / balance and still be considered a "design flop" from a gameplay/lore perspective.

IAmBones · June 2019

Not real sure the purpose of this post, you don't like this class....and? I am sorry you don't like it? Maybe play some other class?

Tharonil · June 2019

I really like the necromancer, but I thought the "bad skills" will only give you a bounty in cities.

In older maps I started some quests, where people asked me to help them. Than I summoned my skeleton to protect the poor citizens and they screamed "oh no a necromancer!!!!"
I never had such a high bounty before and I'm afraid of using my skills.

SshadowSscale · June 2019

Idk either I am missing something or I am a special kind of *** because I am loving my necromancer........ Its extremly fun for me to play and i'm doing better with it in pvp than the other classes..... And no I am not play bash spam necro.......
P.s sry for bad spelling...... English is not my home language
Edit: I mainly play no cp pvp so Maybe its something to do with that

Eldartar · June 2019

Dinokstrun wrote: »

I didn't think it could be possible to design such a boring and clunky class but Necromancer just feels painful to play. The ultimates however feel like you're activating some kind of cheatcode as they're all ridiculously strong but outside ultimates Necromancer just feels bland and sluggish to play and of course we have the wonky corpse mechanics and poor AI blastbones. At first it was fun but I've quickly been burnt out by this slow paced class.

Maybe I just need some inspiration on how to make Necromancer (specifically stamina necromancer) as I'm struggling to find alternative ways to find success with this class. Feel free to post some fun and interesting Suggestions for Stam necro.

You're kidding right? You need to check out AlcastHQ and Dottzgaming for some awesome NECRO builds both Magica and Stamina based.

Personally I am loving my Magica Necro DPS. I just need to practice my rotation more but loving it all the same.