“Thrown Poisons”

max_only · June 2019

Using the alchemy skill line we need to create poison/disease/healing grenades.

For balance and fun we could have the AOE cloud affect the caster. **Edited

This would be a good opportunity to upgrade the Snakeblood passive so we take way less damage from our own grenades. **Edited

The functionality exists with the boss in Darkshade Caverns 1 who tosses poison circles, the sound of bottle breaking included.

**Edited title since “Grenades” was a sore subject.

redspecter23 · June 2019

The ability to damage friendlies? You can't see how that is immediately game breaking? Perhaps a bit fun for a moment, but definitely game breaking. Take that part out and you might have something workable.

max_only · June 2019

redspecter23 wrote: »

The ability to damage friendlies? You can't see how that is immediately game breaking? Perhaps a bit fun for a moment, but definitely game breaking. Take that part out and you might have something workable.

Fine...

srfrogg23 · June 2019

Sometimes they live under bridges. Sometimes, they are on the internet.

max_only · June 2019

srfrogg23 wrote: »

Sometimes they live under bridges. Sometimes, they are on the internet.

You would know.

El_Borracho · June 2019

You know what else would be awesome to go with grenades? If you could have a Lamborghini you could drive around in the open world, throwing grenades at other players as they go about their own game. You could paint it any crazy color you want. Then you could go pick up a Khajiit "woman of the night" rob her.

Sure sounds like you might be playing the wrong game...

max_only · June 2019

El_Borracho wrote: »

You know what else would be awesome to go with grenades? If you could have a Lamborghini you could drive around in the open world, throwing grenades at other players as they go about their own game. You could paint it any crazy color you want. Then you could go pick up a Khajiit "woman of the night" rob her.

Sure sounds like you might be playing the wrong game...

Weird take but okay. There are alchemical grenades in the game already. There’s quests in Deshaan where the grenades carry disease. Unless it’s the word “grenade” that you don’t like. How about “thrown poisons”?

El_Borracho · June 2019

max_only wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

You know what else would be awesome to go with grenades? If you could have a Lamborghini you could drive around in the open world, throwing grenades at other players as they go about their own game. You could paint it any crazy color you want. Then you could go pick up a Khajiit "woman of the night" rob her.

Sure sounds like you might be playing the wrong game...

Weird take but okay. There are alchemical grenades in the game already. There’s quests in Deshaan where the grenades carry disease. Unless it’s the word “grenade” that you don’t like. How about “thrown poisons”?

Just having some fun. When you mentioned friendly fire damage, I had instant flashbacks to GTA Online when trolls could ruin missions/quests/your day with friendly fire explosions.

ccmedaddy · June 2019

Yes plz. I've always wanted to have an option to kill friendlies

max_only · June 2019

I changed the op. You’d just be killing yourself. Besides if you want to kill friendlies you already have plenty of options.
(Queue as fake tank, run toward group when you notice you have inevitable detonation on you, don’t hold block at a resource flag while in a Zerg etc)

ArchMikem · June 2019

El_Borracho wrote: »

You know what else would be awesome to go with grenades? If you could have a Lamborghini you could drive around in the open world, throwing grenades at other players as they go about their own game. You could paint it any crazy color you want. Then you could go pick up a Khajiit "woman of the night" rob her.

Sure sounds like you might be playing the wrong game...

I used to do that in gta iv.....

Wow that game enables you to be a pos

max_only · June 2019

Y’all... I’m talking about throwing pots like some npcs do, it’s not a crisis...

jainiadral · June 2019

*is stumped* Why would you want this? What kind of masochist would you have to be to use this?

<---used mods to turn off friendly fire in Dragon Age

max_only · June 2019

jainiadral wrote: »

*is stumped* Why would you want this? What kind of masochist would you have to be to use this?

<---used mods to turn off friendly fire in Dragon Age

I’m that masochist who hasn’t deleted my Nightblade tank yet.

jainiadral · June 2019

max_only wrote: »

jainiadral wrote: »

*is stumped* Why would you want this? What kind of masochist would you have to be to use this?

<---used mods to turn off friendly fire in Dragon Age

I’m that masochist who hasn’t deleted my Nightblade tank yet.

Thanks for confirming that you're a masochist

I've had my suspicions for a while...

Personally, I despise friendly fire mechanics. They drive me insane. If a skill has a penalty attached I won't use it, no matter how "great" or essential it might be. But that's just my personal bias

Red_Feather · June 2019

I would actually use poisons then. Equip in my hot key wheel.

max_only · June 2019

Red_Feather wrote: »

I would actually use poisons then. Equip in my hot key wheel.

Yes that’s what I was getting at.

Silver_Strider · June 2019

I miss the old version of Widowmaker, when the explosion was at the target rather than at your feet. It really felt like I was throwing poisons at the enemy.

max_only · June 2019

Silver_Strider wrote: »

I miss the old version of Widowmaker, when the explosion was at the target rather than at your feet. It really felt like I was throwing poisons at the enemy.

Was that a set or a skill?

StormeReigns · June 2019

So... a Combat Apothecary??
Apothecary Combatant?
Apothescary?

kypranb14_ESO · June 2019

I'd be down for "thrown" weapons, be it alchemical "grenades" (see Conan Exiles), Knives, Axes, Dartsm Javelins, etc (see Runescape). I'd love to see more weapon diversity, though preferably magic weapon additions, and stamina class skill additions.

max_only · June 2019

Would be nice to reverse pickpocket poison as well.

CMDR_Un1k0rn · June 2019

I mean, OP's proposal is not without precedent.

Skyrim: Dragonborn. It featured pretty much exactly what OP describes, just instead of bottles of liquid, they were magically enchanted spiders that blew up.

Dusk_Coven · June 2019

Sounds like a new dps/healer World skill line to me! Throw healing pots at your friends, throw damaging pots at your foes.
Putting it on a World skill line lets them scale it up and down on the fly according to how gamebreaking it is. And make Alchemy crafting skill unlock the various tiers.

Synnastix · June 2019

ccmedaddy wrote: »

Yes plz. I've always wanted to have an option to kill friendlies

+1

For science

Karmanorway · June 2019

max_only wrote: »

Using the alchemy skill line we need to create poison/disease/healing grenades.

For balance and fun we could have the AOE cloud affect the caster. **Edited

This would be a good opportunity to upgrade the Snakeblood passive so we take way less damage from our own grenades. **Edited

The functionality exists with the boss in Darkshade Caverns 1 who tosses poison circles, the sound of bottle breaking included.

**Edited title since “Grenades” was a sore subject.

Sounds fun, im all for it

Todays quote - There can never be succes, without change, so stop staying stuck in the mud.

I just made that up lol (still legit tho)

max_only · June 2019

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

Sounds like a new dps/healer World skill line to me! Throw healing pots at your friends, throw damaging pots at your foes.
Putting it on a World skill line lets them scale it up and down on the fly according to how gamebreaking it is. And make Alchemy crafting skill unlock the various tiers.

That’s cool too, as long as there isn’t a Psijic type quest to unlock all of it.

max_only · August 2019

Blackguard Alchemists in Chid-Moska Ruins throw fire pots/Molotovs. It’s not a spell, they are throwing an object.

idk · August 2019

max_only wrote: »

This would be a good opportunity to upgrade the Snakeblood passive so we take way less damage from our own grenades. **Edited

Why add friendly fire to game that has so far not been designed for it?

Thorvarg · August 2019

We need the "The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch"

https://youtu.be/ashgP4YMdJw

max_only · August 2019

idk wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

This would be a good opportunity to upgrade the Snakeblood passive so we take way less damage from our own grenades. **Edited

Why add friendly fire to game that has so far not been designed for it?

For funsies

If I throw a Molotov cocktail on the ground and then run into I’d get burned. Somehow in my imagination fire you create with your own magic doesn’t hurt you but fire created by someone else’s magic does. It’s just for flavor/possible balance. So we aren’t just spamming poisons on the ground everywhere.