Chest “exploit” to get non perfected gear? Most vet groups don’t even bother with chests since they’re completely useless. Zos would have to be banning players in the bot spectrum that can’t complete a trial easier than vMoL if this were the case. It doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.

Guys, I just want to say I've been proudly exploiting chests all around the world since 1987.

Carry on...

Even if this was legitimate how does ZOS seperate the people that did the dungeon legitimately picking up chests beating all mobs and bosses etc and people that just got the chests and left how do you seperate the people that killed one boss but could kill the others etc

Its insane just like the whole outpost flipping for AP during the double AP event 2 years ago.
You would have to ban literally everyone in this case everyone that went into VSS. Good luck banning more than a tenth of your player base a small part of me actually wants to see ZOS ban 1000's upon 1000's of players and watch ESO burn.

lordrichter wrote: »

RebornV3x wrote: »

Even if this was legitimate how does ZOS seperate the people that did the dungeon legitimately picking up chests beating all mobs and bosses etc and people that just got the chests and left how do you seperate the people that killed one boss but could kill the others etc

They would be banning people with a high count of using the dungeon, with a low boss kill rate, and a high loot rate. They have logs. How detailed, I have no idea.

They aren't going to ban someone who waltzed in there once, managed to avoid the bosses, looted the chests, and never came back, for example.

Even so 1000's of innocent players are still getting banned where dos ZOS draw the line.

After seeing posts about this "exploit" I went to normal Sunspire to try to figure out what it was all about.

I saw 5 million or so health of mobs that seemed to need killing before one could even get into the rest of the trial, which my thief wasn't really in the mood to deal with. When I snuck past them I got to locked doors with a difficulty level of "Impossible". Did I overlook something?

Dragonnord wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

And why would farming chests be punished? How players can possibly know ZOS didn't want them to open those chests if you could just get to them walking and doing nothing?

Players were not using any kind of exploit, they were not using mementos, they were not going through invisible walls, nothing at all, so how is it an exploit by just walking to the chests?

And opening chests? Really? Why it's OK in CoA and why not in a trial? Because the sets are better? Is there an Official ZOS page/site where it says "this" set is OK to get it from a chest but "this one" is not?

So, "Anyone for CoA chests farm?" is OK but "Anyone for vSS chests farm?" is an offense?

ZOS just decided they don't want those chests to be easy obtainable, and so ZOS changed how they can be obtained. That's all.
 

They knew it was an exploit. They also knew it was going to be fixed. One of the guilds I am in had members running the chest farm nightly and posted reminders in discord that the opportunity wouldn't be there for long. I joined one not realizing they were skipping all boss fights, most adds, and just purposely dying to get to all the chests so I didn't join any others. I don't think there will be any consequences nor should there be but acting as if players who did this didn't know it wasn't playing as intended is naive.

There is NO way they could have known it was an exploit because IT IS NOT an exploit. People did NOTHING wrong. There are dozens of same situations in different content in the game (ie: City of Ash) where players have been doing that for years and IT WAS NEVER an exploit.

Oh! ZOS! Ban everyone that farms in Skyreach! They are supposed to enter the delve, kill all bosses and complete the quest, not grouping all adds, killing them, go out and get back in and repeat the "exploit" to gain XP, right? So ban EVERY PLAYER in this game ZOS for exploiting Skyreach!

My God!!
 

An exploit is something in the game that works other than intended. People using this exploit knew it was an exploit and most also knew it would be quickly corrected. People are not going to get banned for taking advantage although the Terms of Agreement does say all exploits should be reported when encountered. Your Skyreach example is a poor one. Players are not sneaking past content to attack those adds and they are not dying on purpose to be transported past content.

If the Sunspire trial was working as intended do you think there would have been such a rush to get it fixed? This was a blatant exploit. There are other exploits in the game that ZoS has decided to ignore. Some take a long time before getting fixed as example the Fungal Grotto exploit that took the random factor out of getting the random daily reward.

it was an exploit and most people taking advantage knew it was an exploit.

Dragonnord wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

And why would farming chests be punished? How players can possibly know ZOS didn't want them to open those chests if you could just get to them walking and doing nothing?

Players were not using any kind of exploit, they were not using mementos, they were not going through invisible walls, nothing at all, so how is it an exploit by just walking to the chests?

And opening chests? Really? Why it's OK in CoA and why not in a trial? Because the sets are better? Is there an Official ZOS page/site where it says "this" set is OK to get it from a chest but "this one" is not?

So, "Anyone for CoA chests farm?" is OK but "Anyone for vSS chests farm?" is an offense?

ZOS just decided they don't want those chests to be easy obtainable, and so ZOS changed how they can be obtained. That's all.
 

They knew it was an exploit. They also knew it was going to be fixed. One of the guilds I am in had members running the chest farm nightly and posted reminders in discord that the opportunity wouldn't be there for long. I joined one not realizing they were skipping all boss fights, most adds, and just purposely dying to get to all the chests so I didn't join any others. I don't think there will be any consequences nor should there be but acting as if players who did this didn't know it wasn't playing as intended is naive.

There is NO way they could have known it was an exploit because IT IS NOT an exploit. People did NOTHING wrong. There are dozens of same situations in different content in the game (ie: City of Ash) where players have been doing that for years and IT WAS NEVER an exploit.

Oh! ZOS! Ban everyone that farms in Skyreach! They are supposed to enter the delve, kill all bosses and complete the quest, not grouping all adds, killing them, go out and get back in and repeat the "exploit" to gain XP, right? So ban EVERY PLAYER in this game ZOS for exploiting Skyreach!

My God!!
 

An exploit is something in the game that works other than intended. People using this exploit knew it was an exploit and most also knew it would be quickly corrected. People are not going to get banned for taking advantage although the Terms of Agreement does say all exploits should be reported when encountered. Your Skyreach example is a poor one. Players are not sneaking past content to attack those adds and they are not dying on purpose to be transported past content.

If the Sunspire trial was working as intended do you think there would have been such a rush to get it fixed? This was a blatant exploit. There are other exploits in the game that ZoS has decided to ignore. Some take a long time before getting fixed as example the Fungal Grotto exploit that took the random factor out of getting the random daily reward.

it was an exploit and most people taking advantage knew it was an exploit.

You are the only one that says it was an exploit, so quit saying "...they knew it was an exploit". Sorry, I think I read somewhere else another person thinking it was an exploit too. So it's you and that other person the only ones, out of +13 million players, that say it was an exploit.

Again, ZOS decided to change and make the chests not farmeable. Just a simple decision to avoid giving purple BiS sets that easily. Case closed.
 

I know they thought/knew it was an exploit because there was talk in Craglorn zone chat telling people to run it now before the fix. That aside my original post specifically mentioned guild members encouraging others to take full advantage while they could. I may be the only person saying they knew it was an exploit here in this thread. Doesn't change the simple fact it was an exploit and people were taking full advantage knowing it was an exploit and also knowing it would be fixed. Of those more than thirteen million people approximately 12,999,043 offered no opinion.

Call it what you will. Players took full advantage of a situation that was never meant to be in the game. Now they can't so at least this one exploit was fixed in a timely manner.

Or are you arguing that ZoS meant for players to skip the bosses for a week or two, thus no exploit?

kargen27 wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

And why would farming chests be punished? How players can possibly know ZOS didn't want them to open those chests if you could just get to them walking and doing nothing?

Players were not using any kind of exploit, they were not using mementos, they were not going through invisible walls, nothing at all, so how is it an exploit by just walking to the chests?

And opening chests? Really? Why it's OK in CoA and why not in a trial? Because the sets are better? Is there an Official ZOS page/site where it says "this" set is OK to get it from a chest but "this one" is not?

So, "Anyone for CoA chests farm?" is OK but "Anyone for vSS chests farm?" is an offense?

ZOS just decided they don't want those chests to be easy obtainable, and so ZOS changed how they can be obtained. That's all.
 

They knew it was an exploit. They also knew it was going to be fixed. One of the guilds I am in had members running the chest farm nightly and posted reminders in discord that the opportunity wouldn't be there for long. I joined one not realizing they were skipping all boss fights, most adds, and just purposely dying to get to all the chests so I didn't join any others. I don't think there will be any consequences nor should there be but acting as if players who did this didn't know it wasn't playing as intended is naive.

There is NO way they could have known it was an exploit because IT IS NOT an exploit. People did NOTHING wrong. There are dozens of same situations in different content in the game (ie: City of Ash) where players have been doing that for years and IT WAS NEVER an exploit.

Oh! ZOS! Ban everyone that farms in Skyreach! They are supposed to enter the delve, kill all bosses and complete the quest, not grouping all adds, killing them, go out and get back in and repeat the "exploit" to gain XP, right? So ban EVERY PLAYER in this game ZOS for exploiting Skyreach!

My God!!
 

An exploit is something in the game that works other than intended. People using this exploit knew it was an exploit and most also knew it would be quickly corrected. People are not going to get banned for taking advantage although the Terms of Agreement does say all exploits should be reported when encountered. Your Skyreach example is a poor one. Players are not sneaking past content to attack those adds and they are not dying on purpose to be transported past content.

If the Sunspire trial was working as intended do you think there would have been such a rush to get it fixed? This was a blatant exploit. There are other exploits in the game that ZoS has decided to ignore. Some take a long time before getting fixed as example the Fungal Grotto exploit that took the random factor out of getting the random daily reward.

it was an exploit and most people taking advantage knew it was an exploit.

You are the only one that says it was an exploit, so quit saying "...they knew it was an exploit". Sorry, I think I read somewhere else another person thinking it was an exploit too. So it's you and that other person the only ones, out of +13 million players, that say it was an exploit.

Again, ZOS decided to change and make the chests not farmeable. Just a simple decision to avoid giving purple BiS sets that easily. Case closed.
 

I know they thought/knew it was an exploit because there was talk in Craglorn zone chat telling people to run it now before the fix. That aside my original post specifically mentioned guild members encouraging others to take full advantage while they could. I may be the only person saying they knew it was an exploit here in this thread. Doesn't change the simple fact it was an exploit and people were taking full advantage knowing it was an exploit and also knowing it would be fixed. Of those more than thirteen million people approximately 12,999,043 offered no opinion.

Call it what you will. Players took full advantage of a situation that was never meant to be in the game. Now they can't so at least this one exploit was fixed in a timely manner.

Or are you arguing that ZoS meant for players to skip the bosses for a week or two, thus no exploit?

A fix to an unintended feature does not equate to an exploit. Know the difference. This was definitely unintended but most definitely NOT an exploit. If every feature that ever got fixed was automatically also considered an exploit we would have chaos.

"Hey guys, they are fixing Radiant Destruction next patch so it fires off for half the duration so every time you cast it before it gets fixed, make sure to cancel the animation before the third tick or else you're exploiting something that is scheduled to be changed"

That's crazy talk.

ATomiX96 wrote: »

Bans for gear thats aquireable on normal difficulty... highly doubt it. Most likely just some dude messing with you.

This. Plus ZOS would have to ban +50% of the player base for abusing this "exploit". If they wanted us to stop doing it or be punished, they would have issued a statement. Instead they simply patched it, no one is going to get ban for that.