To all players that main templar

Delparis · June 2019

Templar is a *** class since 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPT85gPa-c&t=28s

try not to laught

robpr · June 2019

Turn subtitles on.

zaria · June 2019

LOL. reminds me of putting subtitles on the *** (WW2 German dictator) outrage in the downfall movie for all sort of stuff.
(edit, name was not censored after edit ???)

Skwor · June 2019

Been Templar as a main since beta, truth is they got a nuclear nerf (way overkill) just before initial release because they were a little bit better than the other classes and modertly better sustain. Templars have been bottom of the barrel ever since, you just get use to it.

Heck for over two years the templar gap closer had a .5 second self stun to it which NO other class ever had on the same gap closer for thier class. Took years of posts and feedback to finally get that corrected.

Clunky and slow is the best descripter of the templar class. I have maxed all other classes and they all play smoother and quicker for thier class skills.

Camatoo · June 2019

I play Templar heal since 2 years (i got a lot of breaks from the game) so im not sure if they are really underperforming.
But for dungeon healing i quite like him. BoL can keep people alive even through heavy fuckups and...ok i just realized that the other skills on my bar, expect extended ritual and channeled focu are either guild or weapon skills.

I have the feeling he is the kinda "paladin" class of ESO and the Warden, which im currently leveling, is more the "druid" type of healer. Not sure he can put out burst heals like the templar can.

Skwor · June 2019

Camatoo wrote: »

I play Templar heal since 2 years (i got a lot of breaks from the game) so im not sure if they are really underperforming.
But for dungeon healing i quite like him. BoL can keep people alive even through heavy fuckups and...ok i just realized that the other skills on my bar, expect extended ritual and channeled focu are either guild or weapon skills.

I have the feeling he is the kinda "paladin" class of ESO and the Warden, which im currently leveling, is more the "druid" type of healer. Not sure he can put out burst heals like the templar can.

To be clear I am talking about a templar's performace outside of healing. For heals templar has always been the best. Problem is this game almost never needs a healer unless it is vet level trails or a handful of vet level dlc dungeons.

TequilaFire · June 2019

Yep, we actually have to learn to play our class.

MartiniDaniels · June 2019

So BiS and must have healer for years and good PVE magdps and at U22 even BiS magdps with brain-dead rotation, now requires buff?

Tatanko · June 2019

I main a Stamplar and love it to pieces

LordLomax · June 2019

Same my main is a stamplar he is my fave , been through soooo much lol 😆

Delparis · June 2019

a crown for the templar

ghastley · June 2019

Do I detect an underlying belief that "main" must mean DPS? That Healers and Tanks are somehow secondary? If so, the fix is elsewhere, not in improving one class for one role.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · June 2019

I just leveled a Magsorc who has been geared out for max level for about 3 days. I believe that she has about 65 skill points total and a mix of gold/purple gear. I brought her into PVP last night solo for about 2 hours.

I also main a Magplar who has 100% gold gear, more than 350 skill points and I have more than 2000 hours experience on him, much of it in PVP.

They both have advantages and disadvantages but the single target burst I can do on the Magsorc (crystal frag tool tip is just under 17k) combined with the ease that I can root people makes Magsorc infinitely better in 1 on 1 or situations where the opponent has full health. Also, up until this week I thought that Radiant Oppression was tops on the execute list but Mages Wrath is ridiculous.

The advantages of my Magplar are that I can get away with more nonsense because many of his abilities return resources especially jabby sticks returning so much health. I would have also said how great his execution was but ... yeah. Sadly many of the best parts of playing a Magplar are really just that I did all of the other skill lines with him so, also ... yeah.

The one thing that my Magplar definitely has however is a higher floor. I can get away with stuff in massive fights that is often ridiculous, especially for someone who essentially intentionally wears “PVE” gear in Cyrodiil to raise my damage. My Magsorc seemed much more squishy despite having a similar set up. Also, keeping up the pet for heals takes some getting used to.

Regardless I filled up a kill 40 without a group no problem last night despite being a Magsorc novice. You can just spam roots and executes into crowds wayyyyyyyy easier than I ever spammed radiant cheesily on my Magplar.

So yeah ... buff Magplar.

Ramber · June 2019

You can main a mag/stamplar for sure. My stamplar hits up to 60k in dngns and trials if your team know how to properly buff/debuff the targets. My Magplat hits over 51k on a 3 or 6 mill dummy. Both hit in the 70's on the new trials dummy. Temps are fine to play with you just gotta get to know them.

MEBengalsFan2001 · June 2019

Camatoo wrote: »

I play Templar heal since 2 years (i got a lot of breaks from the game) so im not sure if they are really underperforming.
But for dungeon healing i quite like him. BoL can keep people alive even through heavy fuckups and...ok i just realized that the other skills on my bar, expect extended ritual and channeled focu are either guild or weapon skills.

I have the feeling he is the kinda "paladin" class of ESO and the Warden, which im currently leveling, is more the "druid" type of healer. Not sure he can put out burst heals like the templar can.

Templar as a healer is more of a cleric. Templar as a tank is more of a paladin.
The Warden as a healer is like a druid and as a damage dealer like a Ranger.

I like the Templar the best out of all the classes, especially for solo play. It has nice buffs, AoE, damaging/self healing abilities, etc.. It has a nice mix. I know all classes do but the way the class is designed it works for my play style.

I thought with the latest up that all classes were within 5% of each other if properly geared. Is that not the case still?

Grianasteri · June 2019

I was genuinely laughing out loud watching that, its very well done.

However, Templar is still an excellent, fluid and fun class to play. Number one for healing and also excellent DPS. No idea about tanking, not played a Templar tank.

I do laugh at these subjective posts about how one feels about this class or that one, or this skill or that skill.

I mean in the DPS charts Templar is still high and no one disputes its the best healer. No idea where such criticism flows from, its funny.

Delparis · June 2019

I've made a sorc too and farmed shards during those weeks where we were not able to queue to dungeons and BG.

Sorc is so much better with amazing skills and OP fire power. They got mage wrath the best pvp excecute and a skill that gives major brutality and major sorcery for 33 sec and heals you when you do crit dmg

Power Surge
Invoke Meridia’s name to get a rush of power, granting you Major Brutality and Major Sorcery, increasing Weapon and Spell Damage by 20% for 33 seconds.
While active, dealing a Critical Strike heals you for 2550 Health. This effect can occur once every 1 second.

they also have pets and light speed and the best shield in the game.

no wonder they rule the battlefield,

In the other hand templar is at best a botheal. Oh no guess what sorc is better at healing too Twilight Matriarch heals more than Breath of Life lol

Summon Twilight Matriarch
Call on Azura to send a twilight matriarch to fight at your side. The twilight matriarch’s attacks deal 668 Shock Damage plus an additional 15% damage.
Once summoned, you can activate the twilight matriarch's special ability, causing it to heal the matriarch and up to 2 other friendly targets for 1671 Health.
The twilight matriarch remains until it is killed or unsummoned.

Just as said in the video, only pothead keep playing templar. Stop beying a pothead switch to sorc or nightblade.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · June 2019

Delparis wrote: »

I've made a sorc too and farmed shards during those weeks where we were not able to queue to dungeons and BG.

Sorc is so much better with amazing skills and OP fire power. They got mage wrath the best pvp excecute and a skill that gives major brutality and major sorcery for 33 sec and heals you when you do crit dmg

Power Surge
Invoke Meridia’s name to get a rush of power, granting you Major Brutality and Major Sorcery, increasing Weapon and Spell Damage by 20% for 33 seconds.
While active, dealing a Critical Strike heals you for 2550 Health. This effect can occur once every 1 second.

they also have pets and light speed and the best shield in the game.

no wonder they rule the battlefield,

In the other hand templar is at best a botheal. Oh no guess what sorc is better at healing too Twilight Matriarch heals more than Breath of Life lol

Summon Twilight Matriarch
Call on Azura to send a twilight matriarch to fight at your side. The twilight matriarch’s attacks deal 668 Shock Damage plus an additional 15% damage.
Once summoned, you can activate the twilight matriarch's special ability, causing it to heal the matriarch and up to 2 other friendly targets for 1671 Health.
The twilight matriarch remains until it is killed or unsummoned.

Just as said in the video, only pothead keep playing templar. Stop beying a pothead switch to sorc or nightblade.

You leave pot out of this!

#yourenotwrong

therift · June 2019

Did this just turn into a #NerfSorc #NerfNightblade thread?

Aznarb · June 2019

- Templar healer is still very good and have lot of tool, ulti generation, and balance between dps and utility, minor sorcery, minor breech and minor fracture.
- Sorcerer healer sacrifice some utility slot (matriarch take 2 slot + flood lightning : 2 skill less) to get a way better dps but less sustain and no ult generation, only a reduction.
- Warden and DK healer are amazing defensive healer with good utility (a bit less for DK) and inssane heal and ult generation.
- Nightblade & Necromancer healer : no idea I've never play one.

Sorcerer is amazing in 4 man content
Warden is amazing for Raid
Templar is amazing everywhere
DK need a buff somewhere
NB/Necro : no idea, I ear Necro was pretty nice and NB heal get buff, but dunno more.

Edit : Also if you heal more with Matri than Breath of life, you should look at your build. My breath heal 3k more than matri.
Also, it's a burst heal, you not suppose to use it all time.

For PvP, I don't know.
But from my personal opinion, PvP and PvE skill should have separate tooltips for obvious reason.

Skwor · June 2019

It is my opinion that outside of healing the templar class is the hardest to play well either in pve or pvp.

Delparis · June 2019

Skwor wrote: »

It is my opinion that outside of healing the templar class is the hardest to play well either in pve or pvp.

in pve it's the easiest imo but also the class with the lowest dps.

in pvp it's the most clunky, the most fragile and the less mobile class in the game.

usmguy1234 · June 2019

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

I just leveled a Magsorc who has been geared out for max level for about 3 days. I believe that she has about 65 skill points total and a mix of gold/purple gear. I brought her into PVP last night solo for about 2 hours.

I also main a Magplar who has 100% gold gear, more than 350 skill points and I have more than 2000 hours experience on him, much of it in PVP.

They both have advantages and disadvantages but the single target burst I can do on the Magsorc (crystal frag tool tip is just under 17k) combined with the ease that I can root people makes Magsorc infinitely better in 1 on 1 or situations where the opponent has full health. Also, up until this week I thought that Radiant Oppression was tops on the execute list but Mages Wrath is ridiculous.

The advantages of my Magplar are that I can get away with more nonsense because many of his abilities return resources especially jabby sticks returning so much health. I would have also said how great his execution was but ... yeah. Sadly many of the best parts of playing a Magplar are really just that I did all of the other skill lines with him so, also ... yeah.

The one thing that my Magplar definitely has however is a higher floor. I can get away with stuff in massive fights that is often ridiculous, especially for someone who essentially intentionally wears “PVE” gear in Cyrodiil to raise my damage. My Magsorc seemed much more squishy despite having a similar set up. Also, keeping up the pet for heals takes some getting used to.

Regardless I filled up a kill 40 without a group no problem last night despite being a Magsorc novice. You can just spam roots and executes into crowds wayyyyyyyy easier than I ever spammed radiant cheesily on my Magplar.

So yeah ... buff Magplar.

Templars can be super strong as a ranged class. Just look up helium balloon on YouTube. He's on ps4.

ryzen_gamer_gal · June 2019

i have a stamina nb and a stamina templar and i think the stamina templar is the better of the two with the same weapons.

i have a magicka templar from alcast that does great with the fire on the front bar and i use it as a healer and put healing stuffs on the back bar instead of the psijic skills that i am never obv going to get any time soon if ever.

I think my templar tank does great also. though i like sorc tank a lot because of the skill that locks the mobs i place. even so the jabs and the swing staff ult work well or mobs.

No complaints here with templar. best all around i think.

essi2 · June 2019

Roles Templars do well or best:

Stam DD
Healer
SnB Tank

Neutral Roles:

Mag DD
MagTank

Roles Templar are bad at:

N/A

Mendosa · June 2019

Templar is the only class I can solo all world bosses, no matter how many are there in a group and also solo group dungeons without die not even once. It's much more versatile than a sorcerer in PVP groups.

Do you know any execute skill better than Radiant Oppression? It's hitting like an ulti (48K for me) over 28m and for 50% hp.

Templar shines especially at melee range. While Solar Barrage and Reflective Light active, use Explosive Charge as gap closer/stun than start to wave Puncturing Sweep. If you can use Radiant Oppression before the target died, you are lucky.

Careful, I never even mentioned healer/cleaner skills.

OneForSorrow · June 2019

What's wrong dps templar, exactly?

THEDKEXPERIENCE · June 2019

usmguy1234 wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

I just leveled a Magsorc who has been geared out for max level for about 3 days. I believe that she has about 65 skill points total and a mix of gold/purple gear. I brought her into PVP last night solo for about 2 hours.

I also main a Magplar who has 100% gold gear, more than 350 skill points and I have more than 2000 hours experience on him, much of it in PVP.

They both have advantages and disadvantages but the single target burst I can do on the Magsorc (crystal frag tool tip is just under 17k) combined with the ease that I can root people makes Magsorc infinitely better in 1 on 1 or situations where the opponent has full health. Also, up until this week I thought that Radiant Oppression was tops on the execute list but Mages Wrath is ridiculous.

The advantages of my Magplar are that I can get away with more nonsense because many of his abilities return resources especially jabby sticks returning so much health. I would have also said how great his execution was but ... yeah. Sadly many of the best parts of playing a Magplar are really just that I did all of the other skill lines with him so, also ... yeah.

The one thing that my Magplar definitely has however is a higher floor. I can get away with stuff in massive fights that is often ridiculous, especially for someone who essentially intentionally wears “PVE” gear in Cyrodiil to raise my damage. My Magsorc seemed much more squishy despite having a similar set up. Also, keeping up the pet for heals takes some getting used to.

Regardless I filled up a kill 40 without a group no problem last night despite being a Magsorc novice. You can just spam roots and executes into crowds wayyyyyyyy easier than I ever spammed radiant cheesily on my Magplar.

So yeah ... buff Magplar.

Templars can be super strong as a ranged class. Just look up helium balloon on YouTube. He's on ps4.

Oh, mine is strong AF at range. That’s undoubtedly true. I might have the strongest Jesus Beam on XBox since I don’t use impen. I’ll put my skills at defending a keep from up top next to anyone’s with my Magplar.

Problem is that if you get me 1 on 1 I’m probably going to lose to anyone even close to as skilled as me. In a Zerg on Zerg or even 2 on 2 my Templar is outrageously good. Actually truth be told he is almost on an even footing when 1 on 1 as he is 1 on 3 because most of my attacks hit 3 people equally and at the same time.

It’s an odd thing but that’s ranged Magplar life.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · June 2019

OneForSorrow wrote: »

What's wrong dps templar, exactly?

The main pain point is that it is hard for even the strongest DPS Magplar (I cannot speak about stamplars) to hurt a full health opponent. Once they can get you to 35% health you’re essentially dead already but that first 65% can be very tough.

The style promotes Zerg surfing, but then again so does Mages Wrath for the Magsorc. The difference is that the Magsorc can smash you at 100% health while the Magplar can only give you an awkward tickle.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · June 2019

In PVE, Magplar DPS is probably the best bang for your buck. Assuming you are attempting fully dynamic light attack rotation, its barely behind mag sorc, and noticeably easier. More of the rotation is static, the buffs/dots you are juggling have longer duration, and it gets even easier at execute.

Stamplar DPS in PVE, is a bit underwhelming, but the rotation can be done in a static rotation without a lot of downside. I still think stamplars are very powerful in PVP, in fact, as someone that plays a lot of mSorc (as do a lot of people), I think a good stamplar is my toughest counter, save for perhaps a really good mDK.

Magplar in PVP is still great for support and healing, even if its not the best 1vX class.

OneForSorrow · June 2019

Ah. One of my more used characters is magplar but I don't PvP with him so any PvP concerns with the build is just zoom. Right over my head.