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[Spoiler] How is Sai Sahan back?

  • NBrookus
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    Elsewyr takes place after you have done the AD questline... even if you haven't done it.

    This isn't the first time they've said "screw continuity."
  • Nemesis7884
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    they probably looked at statistics? and saw that 90% of people sacrified varen or at least the least people sacrified him or so?
  • russelmmendoza
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    I sacrificed bleeptard.

    Lyris is mine.
  • MLGProPlayer
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    You sacrificed him in Coldharbour. He probably just became a soul shriven like you in the base game, then just reclaimed his soul, and bam, he's back.
  • Inerar
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    He will be surprised when he'll see so many player wearing his costumes :sweat_smile: Probably he'll say "Oh, didn't know they love me so much!" :smile:
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  • SantieClaws
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    Has no one considered that the large number of travellers taking up necromancy as a profession may have something to do with this?

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  • Demion
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    A redguard willingly sacrifice himself for the vestige is brought back with necromancy of the same vestige, yeah he will be super thrilled by that.

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  • TruthSeeker
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    Linear time is an illusion ;)
  • elantaura
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    Although I have picked Varen just about every time, But did pick Sai on my main the one I’ll be doing it on. At the very least it’s awkward
    She also opted to kill a certain dark elf In Morrowind if you have played it you will know who, and she didn’t stay dead either now did she, so there’s that too.
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  • mistermacintosh
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    We usually have the illusion of choice in this game. Few choices really mean anything in the long run. And I agree that the prophet is the best sacrifice to make as he lies to you from the beginning and is responsible for the soul burst.

    However, when a game gives me choices and multiple characters to experience different paths, I tend to pick different options to see how it changes things.

    But again, choices don't mean much in this game, so I'm not expecting much. It will be interesting to see the explanation for this...

    I actually like Sai, so if he's back that's fine by me. It would be weird if he just showed up on a character that scarified him and said "Hey, dude! Let's go on an adventure!".
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  • master_vanargand
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    You:Sai?! I thought you were...
    Sai:Dead? You thought wrong.
  • Nemesis7884
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    All i care is how i can get that sweet armor / pauldron .... his dragon guard soldiers also spot new armor it seems....sweet
  • nihirisutou
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    I haven't actually been able to see the dialogue in game, but isn't this the same as Varen in Orsinium?

    The soul of the companion chosen is consumed by the Amulet of Kings soul trapping it for Akatosh.

    So why can Varen Projection show up also?
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  • Jeremy
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    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    Everyone is talking about the hype for the DLC and the new trailer and I am just thinking about how and why Sai Sahan is returning. At the end of the main quest of the base game
    You get to choose either Lyris, Varen or Sai as a sacrifice - as Abnur conveniently needs to perform the ritual. It makes sense for Abnur to be in Elsweyr, but all the other characters are not certain to still be alive.
    Of course if you don't play those quests in order of release, then everything works fine, but ZOS usually took the stance that you can play in whatever order you like and it would supposedly still make sense. So how will your player choice be addressed and will we potentially not see Sai Sahan again if we chose differently in the past?

    They should at least make a scene where you revive him somehow for players who opted to kill him.
  • Cadbury
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    Only good thing about sai was his outfit. I was more disappointed that I couldn’t sacrifice ALL of them. They were more irritating than the followers in this Fallout 3 mod I played. I wanted to kill them ALL before the quests ended.

    Best I could do here was skip their dialogue. I STILL don’t know what really happened in the main quest. And I ain’t doing Caldwell’s NOTHING...for a bucket hat! What!!!!

    Eh, I like Abnur Tharn and Cadwell. And The Prophet kinds grew on me after you find out who he is (Although I thought his excuse for hiding his identity from The Vestige was weak.). As I feel he bears the most responsibility, Varen always gets sacrificed in all my playthoughs

    The rest? Boring.
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  • zaria
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    allahdine wrote: »
    Duh he just res at a wayshrine.
    Kind of explain a lot. Like how enemies always come back after you kill them.
    You can res at wayshrines, your friends can to so it make sense all can.
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  • Elsonso
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    Season of the Dragon is terrible for anyone who wants a coherent storyline for the entire game.

    Elsweyr does not really have a definite spot in the timeline. It can come before the events of the main quest. I don't think any reference is made to Molag Bal or the resolution of the Soulburst. There might be an offhand reference to what happened to Varen, indicating that the events of the main quest have already started.

    I am thinking that Firor is right. Elsweyr could be a perfect starting place for new characters. If they retcon future interactions with certain characters that will be met later so that the character is recognized, then I think the best place for Elsweyr is prior to the main story.

    The only outlier in that is Sai Sahan. He cannot be in Elsweyr in all cases: before, during, and after the main quest. They should have left him out of this one.
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  • Hallothiel
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    I thought Elsweyr was after the main quest. As does Tharn, considering the discussion we had about the Amulet & his behaviour.....

    Always always sacrifice the Prophet. Always. So kinda nice to see Sai again.

    And the answer to those that killed him will be along the lines of “An aedra did it. Or a daedra. Not sure which. Or something. Ooooooh look over there!” 😆
  • Rex-Umbra
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    Well we had varren end or orsinium too
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  • Tessitura
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    Look, lets be real here. We all know ZoS and story cohesion have never been partners. Hell TES it's self barely gets along with the idea. Just learn to let it go like me. You can't win this fight, no one can.
  • RaddlemanNumber7
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    But I was planning to play one of my Necros as a banekin that finds the corpse of Sai Sahan in Coldharbour and uses it as a zombie pet. There goes another beautiful dream :(
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  • vesselwiththepestle
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    All those complaining here will be pretty embarassed when they realize ZOS has actually a very good explanation for his return.

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  • Druid40
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    "Dwemers"
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  • mann9753b16_ESO
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    Spoiler: Abnur Tharn didnt run of with the Amulet of Kings to use it, he spend all his time (that he didnt spend accidently releasing Dragons) finding a way to free the soul we sacrificed.
  • SirAxen
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    I have zero proof, but I think (or at least feel like) Varen is the 'canon' choice there.
    Edited by SirAxen on June 10, 2019 10:03AM
  • Night_Wolf2112
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    All those complaining here will be pretty embarassed when they realize ZOS has actually a very good explanation for his return.

    nshs9m6tag331.jpg

    Translation:
    "Oh $#!+, we f'd that up too! Welp, add it to the list of things we will not communicate with the player base about. Or, the list of things we will explain away implying the player base is stupid."
  • BomblePants
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    I’m getting flashbacks of Dallas.....
  • Druid40
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    OK, real talk, why would ANYONE sacrifice ANY companion other than Varen? I would understand if Abnur was a choice, but he was not.
  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    Has no one considered that the large number of travellers taking up necromancy as a profession may have something to do with this?

    Yours with paws
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    if this one remembers correctly...he made the choice on the prophet to be sacrificed...however in order to fill the amulet it requires the very soul and existence to be charged...prophet only appeared for this one at the end of orsinium specifying that its just a remenant delivering a warning...so in order for sai sahan to be resurrected as a ruisen dead...said necromancer would need a body...and possibly a soul that unlike lyris...those consumed by the artefact are lost forever and wiped from existence, yes?
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