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Curse-eater is still procing on the HoT from at least Forward Momentum
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I tested the purge from Curse-eater with Forward Momentum because I heard on the forums that Curse-eater was good on magblade, and especially melee magblade. I tested it and found it pretty bad on destro/resto magblade although that was last patch when magblade overall was pretty bad.
I thought it was perhaps that the initial heal of Forward Momentum counted as a direct heal unlike the initial heal of say Rapid Regeneration. Instead whenever a Foward Momentum heal ticked it would proc the removal of negative effects. First tick, fifth tick, etc whenever it would tick it'd be able to remove negative effects if Curse-eater was off cooldown.
Never actually used it but I also didn't take the time to report it as a bug other than telling zone chat about it and asking if anyonee else knew that it was at minimum buggily working with the Forward Momentum HoTs.
Since ZOS pretty clearly stopped Curse-eater from procing with most HoTs this behavior is surely unintentional.
I thought it was perhaps that the initial heal of Forward Momentum counted as a direct heal unlike the initial heal of say Rapid Regeneration. Instead whenever a Foward Momentum heal ticked it would proc the removal of negative effects. First tick, fifth tick, etc whenever it would tick it'd be able to remove negative effects if Curse-eater was off cooldown.
Never actually used it but I also didn't take the time to report it as a bug other than telling zone chat about it and asking if anyonee else knew that it was at minimum buggily working with the Forward Momentum HoTs.
Since ZOS pretty clearly stopped Curse-eater from procing with most HoTs this behavior is surely unintentional.
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✭✭✭✭✭Not really an issue considering no mag build is running 2h with FM and no Stam build is going to waste 2,34,5 bonuses for mostly mag stats.
Low priority.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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✭✭✭Mentioned it here:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/428933/magnb-pvp-healer-bgs-specialized-updated-for-wrathstone#latest
Page 3 dated March 25. It's nice because you can control the proc to just yourself and it will always proc on cooldown just by switching bars.
I don't know if it's a bug though. Skills like Rapid Regen read "xx heal over xx seconds" while this reads "xx heal every xx seconds".
Need to test some other skills that behave like this if possible.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Rally/Forward Momentum is not a HoT. It does not Proc Transmutation.
It did prior to murkmire0 -
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Yeah, they changed it to a direct heal every sec. Dark Cloak uses the same wording, maybe it can now proc Curse Eater as well?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Rally/Forward Momentum is not a HoT. It does not Proc Transmutation.
There's dumb, because a heal every 2s is just as much ahot as those that run every second lol.
Someone should test this patch if trans can work off FM. Then yell at ZoS because this spell is a hot lol.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »
Yeah, they changed it to a direct heal every sec. Dark Cloak uses the same wording, maybe it can now proc Curse Eater as well?
I was getting the impression that my sweeps was proccing curse eater and this may explain that too0 -
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Basically every skill and set classification in the game needs to be redone, in my opinion. Perhaps after they've done class passives and weapon actives & passives, they could do a balance pass on all classifications in the game, using the same rules for all skills and sets.
For instance, damage-/healing-over-time should be any damage/healing that is repeated fairly often (say, every 3s or less) over a duration, while direct damage/healing would be anything else, including damage/healing applied in a single instance, or damage/healing repeated periodically (every 4s or more) over a duration. Or, melee damage is any damage dealt within 10 meters of the caster, while ranged damage is any damage dealt father than 10 meters from the caster.
Come up with a single, consistent rule set that covers basically all examples, then just go over the entire game, adjusting the classifications of everything to the new rule set.0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
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Basically every skill and set classification in the game needs to be redone, in my opinion. Perhaps after they've done class passives and weapon actives & passives, they could do a balance pass on all classifications in the game, using the same rules for all skills and sets.
For instance, damage-/healing-over-time should be any damage/healing that is repeated fairly often (say, every 3s or less) over a duration, while direct damage/healing would be anything else, including damage/healing applied in a single instance, or damage/healing repeated periodically (every 4s or more) over a duration. Or, melee damage is any damage dealt within 10 meters of the caster, while ranged damage is any damage dealt father than 10 meters from the caster.
Come up with a single, consistent rule set that covers basically all examples, then just go over the entire game, adjusting the classifications of everything to the new rule set.
But that's how it currently works lol. The problem isn't the consistency, it's the bugs that happen .Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »
Yeah, they changed it to a direct heal every sec. Dark Cloak uses the same wording, maybe it can now proc Curse Eater as well?
Dark Cloak is not proccing Curse Eater as of Elsweyr. Never tested it prior to this patch.
Interestingly enough it reads exactly the same as Forward Momentum so one of them is bugged.Edited by brandonv516 on June 9, 2019 1:28AM3
