Complete MagSorc Guide to PvP in Elsweyr - Build links & video

MalcolM24 · June 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX6xB1zo_YU

This video contains advice and builds for just about every (working) pvp playstyle with the magicka sorcerer.

Timestamps & build links:
00:00 Intro
00:55 General advice (mostly on skills)
18:44 Build 1 (petbuild, without reach) https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=148457
25:50 Build 2 (petbuild, with reach) https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=136179
28:30 Build 3 (non-pet build, with reach) https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=148455
31:38 Build 4 (non-pet build, without reach) https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=148461
33:41 Dueling Build (non-pet, with reach) https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=148470
34:15 Battlegrounds Build (group based, with pet) https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=136180
38:54 Afterthoughts (just some additional general information, like addons)

If you've got any questions or ideas/feedback, that's what this thread is for! Enjoy!

HEBREWHAMMERRR · June 2019

Looks good, we play very similar with the build diversity. I just got elsweyr yesterday as I’m Xbox NA, I put together crafty alfiq on my magblade, have you given this a try yet on sorc? Think it could easily replace boast for me with tri stat food and add some recovery glyphs. Also your battlegrounds build have you tried all protective jewelry rather than heavy? I like all the different builds and in depth explanation of abilities and play style, great vid.

MalcolM24 · June 2019

HEBREWHAMMERRR wrote: »

Looks good, we play very similar with the build diversity. I just got elsweyr yesterday as I’m Xbox NA, I put together crafty alfiq on my magblade, have you given this a try yet on sorc? Think it could easily replace boast for me with tri stat food and add some recovery glyphs. Also your battlegrounds build have you tried all protective jewelry rather than heavy? I like all the different builds and in depth explanation of abilities and play style, great vid.

Yep alfiq + trifood is a great alternative for throat + infusion, but the first gives more health and stam (which I don't really need more of), while the 2nd gives more regen. Even with regen enchants on alfiq, I can't get the same amount of spell dmg & regen as with throat.
I haven't tried protective in bgs, cause I didn't like it in cyrodiil. But considering much of the bg build's dmg comes from the torugs enchants (which deal almost the same dmg on light and heavy), I prefer heavy anyway because I'm not actually sacrificing anything for the extra armor (heavy armor passives are still great), while I need to sacrifice max mag for protective jewelry.

Neloth · June 2019

MalcolM24 wrote: »

HEBREWHAMMERRR wrote: »

Looks good, we play very similar with the build diversity. I just got elsweyr yesterday as I’m Xbox NA, I put together crafty alfiq on my magblade, have you given this a try yet on sorc? Think it could easily replace boast for me with tri stat food and add some recovery glyphs. Also your battlegrounds build have you tried all protective jewelry rather than heavy? I like all the different builds and in depth explanation of abilities and play style, great vid.

Yep alfiq + trifood is a great alternative for throat + infusion, but the first gives more health and stam (which I don't really need more of), while the 2nd gives more regen. Even with regen enchants on alfiq, I can't get the same amount of spell dmg & regen as with throat.
I haven't tried protective in bgs, cause I didn't like it in cyrodiil. But considering much of the bg build's dmg comes from the torugs enchants (which deal almost the same dmg on light and heavy), I prefer heavy anyway because I'm not actually sacrificing anything for the extra armor (heavy armor passives are still great), while I need to sacrifice max mag for protective jewelry.

I really like necro + alfiq + mara + mage mundus + dunmer for base stats, and engine + dark deal + unchained + all recovery glyphs for sustain

Nice thing that in addition it allows to ignore sorcery buff in some situations (since we invested everything into max mag and recovery, and spell dmg is really low) drinking various types of potions

HEBREWHAMMERRR · June 2019

MalcolM24 wrote: »

HEBREWHAMMERRR wrote: »

Looks good, we play very similar with the build diversity. I just got elsweyr yesterday as I’m Xbox NA, I put together crafty alfiq on my magblade, have you given this a try yet on sorc? Think it could easily replace boast for me with tri stat food and add some recovery glyphs. Also your battlegrounds build have you tried all protective jewelry rather than heavy? I like all the different builds and in depth explanation of abilities and play style, great vid.

Yep alfiq + trifood is a great alternative for throat + infusion, but the first gives more health and stam (which I don't really need more of), while the 2nd gives more regen. Even with regen enchants on alfiq, I can't get the same amount of spell dmg & regen as with throat.
I haven't tried protective in bgs, cause I didn't like it in cyrodiil. But considering much of the bg build's dmg comes from the torugs enchants (which deal almost the same dmg on light and heavy), I prefer heavy anyway because I'm not actually sacrificing anything for the extra armor (heavy armor passives are still great), while I need to sacrifice max mag for protective jewelry.

You’re sacrificing a ton of spell pen losing the light armor passives running heavy whereas you can sacrifice 2400 max mag for like 5kish resistances. That’s what I always tell people who are running a resistance 5 piece, 2 offensive 5 pieces > 2400 mag all day. I’d highly recommend giving protective a try in BGs it gives you a ton more build diversity.

MalcolM24 · June 2019

Neloth wrote: »

MalcolM24 wrote: »

HEBREWHAMMERRR wrote: »

Looks good, we play very similar with the build diversity. I just got elsweyr yesterday as I’m Xbox NA, I put together crafty alfiq on my magblade, have you given this a try yet on sorc? Think it could easily replace boast for me with tri stat food and add some recovery glyphs. Also your battlegrounds build have you tried all protective jewelry rather than heavy? I like all the different builds and in depth explanation of abilities and play style, great vid.

Yep alfiq + trifood is a great alternative for throat + infusion, but the first gives more health and stam (which I don't really need more of), while the 2nd gives more regen. Even with regen enchants on alfiq, I can't get the same amount of spell dmg & regen as with throat.
I haven't tried protective in bgs, cause I didn't like it in cyrodiil. But considering much of the bg build's dmg comes from the torugs enchants (which deal almost the same dmg on light and heavy), I prefer heavy anyway because I'm not actually sacrificing anything for the extra armor (heavy armor passives are still great), while I need to sacrifice max mag for protective jewelry.

I really like necro + alfiq + mara + mage mundus + dunmer for base stats, and engine + dark deal + unchained + all recovery glyphs for sustain

Nice thing that in addition it allows to ignore sorcery buff in some situations (since we invested everything into max mag and recovery, and spell dmg is really low) drinking various types of potions

Well you gotta keep the major prophecy in mind too though. And ye that setup with dunmer is legit, gives about the same max stam, just missing out on some of the stamregen the highelf has.

MalcolM24 · June 2019

HEBREWHAMMERRR wrote: »

MalcolM24 wrote: »

HEBREWHAMMERRR wrote: »

Looks good, we play very similar with the build diversity. I just got elsweyr yesterday as I’m Xbox NA, I put together crafty alfiq on my magblade, have you given this a try yet on sorc? Think it could easily replace boast for me with tri stat food and add some recovery glyphs. Also your battlegrounds build have you tried all protective jewelry rather than heavy? I like all the different builds and in depth explanation of abilities and play style, great vid.

Yep alfiq + trifood is a great alternative for throat + infusion, but the first gives more health and stam (which I don't really need more of), while the 2nd gives more regen. Even with regen enchants on alfiq, I can't get the same amount of spell dmg & regen as with throat.
I haven't tried protective in bgs, cause I didn't like it in cyrodiil. But considering much of the bg build's dmg comes from the torugs enchants (which deal almost the same dmg on light and heavy), I prefer heavy anyway because I'm not actually sacrificing anything for the extra armor (heavy armor passives are still great), while I need to sacrifice max mag for protective jewelry.

You’re sacrificing a ton of spell pen losing the light armor passives running heavy whereas you can sacrifice 2400 max mag for like 5kish resistances. That’s what I always tell people who are running a resistance 5 piece, 2 offensive 5 pieces > 2400 mag all day. I’d highly recommend giving protective a try in BGs it gives you a ton more build diversity.

It's just a tradeoff at this point though - with protective you lose dmg, with arcane you lose defense. However, arcane does give that bigger shieldsize (having like 31-32k magicka isn't enough for decent shields). This very low magicka in no cp is what makes me doubt about protective so much there. Yes, it's a shield with more resistances, but losing bastion & arcane makes it too small to feel comfortable with.