Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Yes. Viable. Not optimal. Will get you through all content just fine though.

Would you say a ranged stam necro performs better than a mag necro in open world / BGs?

Neloth wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Yes. Viable. Not optimal. Will get you through all content just fine though.

Would you say a ranged stam necro performs better than a mag necro in open world / BGs?

Ranged necro is something similar to a ranged DK right now. Possible, but why bother? This is true for both stam & mag, imho.

Skull spammable is fine, but it's not a core skill to build around. The core skill is supposed to be blastbones, but, well.

Unfortunately, blastbones are too silly/slow/have-low-HP to reliably follow the target when you cast it from range. Moreover, if you *** up with targeting (and when you play ranged vs group it happens very frequently), and cast blastbones on a wrong guy, it will follow him for the next 2.5 + 8 seconds, and you won't be able to recast them, lul.

Now imagine a situation, when you cast blastbones on a pet sorc, but they start chasing the stupid bird instead of the sorc, just to do pathetic dmg (since pet aoe protection) or even worse - just explode somewhere on half a way, because they stopped for a few seconds to think about life.

This just forces both necro specs (mag and stam) into melee, imho. Sad, but true.

Thanks for the insight. Pretty disappointing. I was hoping that we’d finally have a viable ranged stam class BESIDES stamNB. I’m so tired of 2H/1HS and DW/2H stam combos. I may try to make archer necro work, but I fear it’ll be another failed experiment like my archer Warden. Guess I’ll go Dunmer so that I can switch to mag if it doesn’t work out.

Aurielle wrote: »

Neloth wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Yes. Viable. Not optimal. Will get you through all content just fine though.

Would you say a ranged stam necro performs better than a mag necro in open world / BGs?

Ranged necro is something similar to a ranged DK right now. Possible, but why bother? This is true for both stam & mag, imho.

Skull spammable is fine, but it's not a core skill to build around. The core skill is supposed to be blastbones, but, well.

Unfortunately, blastbones are too silly/slow/have-low-HP to reliably follow the target when you cast it from range. Moreover, if you *** up with targeting (and when you play ranged vs group it happens very frequently), and cast blastbones on a wrong guy, it will follow him for the next 2.5 + 8 seconds, and you won't be able to recast them, lul.

Now imagine a situation, when you cast blastbones on a pet sorc, but they start chasing the stupid bird instead of the sorc, just to do pathetic dmg (since pet aoe protection) or even worse - just explode somewhere on half a way, because they stopped for a few seconds to think about life.

This just forces both necro specs (mag and stam) into melee, imho. Sad, but true.

Thanks for the insight. Pretty disappointing. I was hoping that we’d finally have a viable ranged stam class BESIDES stamNB. I’m so tired of 2H/1HS and DW/2H stam combos. I may try to make archer necro work, but I fear it’ll be another failed experiment like my archer Warden. Guess I’ll go Dunmer so that I can switch to mag if it doesn’t work out.

Be prepared to make that Dunmer Necromancer a healer if you do end up switching to Magicka. The offensive capability of Magicka Necromancer is an absolute joke - I'd personally consider it the worst in the game, and probably by a decent margin. I think the healing has some real potential, but Magicka Necromancer offense is beyond awful even against weaker players (other than the Flesh Atronach, which oftentimes doesn't get countered in low'ish MMR BGs).

And this isn't just a case of people not yet being used to the class, either - Magicka Necromancer just doesn't have the tools necessary to not be garbage at killing things. Melee Stamina Necromancer seems solid (and vastly superior to Magicka Necromancer in an offensive capacity), but I'm not 100% sure how it compares to the other Stamina classes just yet. A ranged Stamina Necromancer would suffer the same issues with Blastbones that Magicka Necromancer does, but at least you'd have better mobility + an execute.

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

If you haven’t seen the videos of the Goliath ultimate two shot players with bash id recommend checking that out before you settle on weapons.

That's a super obvious design flaw (which got mentioned at least once on PTS), and will almost certainly be changed; building a character around that would be a bad idea over the long term.

Ugh, maybe I won’t even bother with going Dunmer and go Orc instead. Sounds like magicka necro is dead on arrival. What a shame.

Depends really, need the right armor set and you will be needing a certian morph for bone armor to keep costs down if I recall right, combine it with marksmen and batleflied acrobat and you can spam range bow skills all night from a good distant if your into spamming skills for bow

Sorry for typos

But want bow not skull

Check him out, has a nice necro bow build

Dark_Shady wrote: »

Just uploaded my Necro bow PVP montage on my youtube channel if you want to check it out! can't link the direct video because of the music! @Aurielle

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNUtvsOmrscabn244rNW1YA?

Thanks for that, Shady. Nicely done. Without giving too much of the build away, would you be willing to tell us if you’re running medium or heavy?

Feeling better now about my decision to give ranged Stam Necro a try. It’s fun so far, and also really different to the standard gankNB bow builds, which is what I’m looking for right now — something other than the same old, same old. Grinding up another boring 2H/1HS character would have made me cry for reals.

Now, if only I could buy Undaunted levels on the Crown store...