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About spying in cyrodiil
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IronWooshu✭✭✭✭✭
✭- Without faction lock :
"X" is a spy.
He 's EP and wants to spy DC.
He has a DC char, logs in and joins a LFG group in cyrodiil.
Now he knows everything and follows the group, telling everyting in vocal/text chat to their EP guildmates the other side - With Faction lock :
"X" is AD and wants to spy EP.
He has a friend in AD named "Y". "Y" doesnt care about war, he only wants to get AP and fights, and can't no longer play with his friend "X"...
"Y" will say everything to his friend "X" in vocal/text chat.
So, guys, please stop with "spies".
Y could never play with his EP friend being AD before faction lock so I fail to see Y's problem here. If he has a red well then he shouldn't have Q'd with his AD player now should he?Edited by IronWooshu on June 4, 2019 5:02AM1 - Without faction lock :
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭IronWooshu wrote: »- Without faction lock :
"X" is a spy.
He 's EP and wants to spy DC.
He has a DC char, logs in and joins a LFG group in cyrodiil.
Now he knows everything and follows the group, telling everyting in vocal/text chat to their EP guildmates the other side - With Faction lock :
"X" is AD and wants to spy EP.
He has a friend in AD named "Y". "Y" doesnt care about war, he only wants to get AP and fights, and can't no longer play with his friend "X"...
"Y" will say everything to his friend "X" in vocal/text chat.
So, guys, please stop with "spies".
Y could never play with his EP friend being AD before faction lock so I fail to see Y's problem here. If he has a red well then he shouldn't have Q'd with his AD player now should he?
The logic would seem that both had characters in the other faction. Though I think OP is seeing the use of alt accounts as myself and another have already pointed out.1 - Without faction lock :
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IronWooshu✭✭✭✭✭
✭IronWooshu wrote: »- Without faction lock :
"X" is a spy.
He 's EP and wants to spy DC.
He has a DC char, logs in and joins a LFG group in cyrodiil.
Now he knows everything and follows the group, telling everyting in vocal/text chat to their EP guildmates the other side - With Faction lock :
"X" is AD and wants to spy EP.
He has a friend in AD named "Y". "Y" doesnt care about war, he only wants to get AP and fights, and can't no longer play with his friend "X"...
"Y" will say everything to his friend "X" in vocal/text chat.
So, guys, please stop with "spies".
Y could never play with his EP friend being AD before faction lock so I fail to see Y's problem here. If he has a red well then he shouldn't have Q'd with his AD player now should he?
The logic would seem that both had characters in the other faction. Though I think OP is seeing the use of alt accounts as myself and another have already pointed out.
how many people are going to go thru the trouble to buy the game twice for an alt account for the sole reason to spy? if they do, kudos to them. If ZoS keeps making money we keep getting more to the game.
All in all this is a very minor problem now unlike what it was before faction lock when it was just cancer.0 - Without faction lock :
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mague✭✭✭✭✭Indoril_Nerevar wrote: »One large simple thing overlooked here is the main issue that WE AS PLAYERS ARE GIVEN THESE OPTIONS BY DESIGN.
BETHESDA/Zos literally made it so this can be done at ease.
So Uhhh
ZOS is not here to code ethics for us
Thats everyones own duty.
However.. spies.. doesnt matter anymore. They now win by boring people out of the zone. Endless resource battles until people refuse to clear resources. And at the end of primetime two factions, for me its blue and red, attack Roebeck and Allesia at the same time. Everyday...
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Why would spies ever matter. When the larger of the factions is on there is usually someone streaming it. You dont need a spy. Just another device with twitch, lol1