got a legendary yesterday with 288 vouchers .... it will be sitting in bank for very long

It appears they made a change as the writs now reward vouchers of 70+ for purple and 100+ for gold.
I have 3 purple that range 70 -92 and 4 gold that range 100 - 150

Still not worth doing them compared to the other crafting master wits.

Epic jewelry needs to be over 100 and preferably not using triune or swift

Legendary needs to be over 400

For it to be worth doing at all

Lauranae wrote: »

got a legendary yesterday with 288 vouchers .... it will be sitting in bank for very long

Ik I have a few 350-470 just sitting there

NupidStoob wrote: »

Guess we can only wait for prices to drop. There are a number that cost less than 1k per voucher to craft already on PC EU. But there are also some that are 3-8k per voucher which is ridiculous. Should just be destroyed right away.

Zircon platings steadily fell from 35k to 25k and Chromium plating from 95k to 80k over the last couple months. I am actually surprised that it's going down so slowly considering there are over 1000 chromium platings currently listed, but I guess as long as people are willing to pay that much money the price will only drop very slowly.

1000 listed is actually not very many for a gold upgrade mat. Compare that to wax or tempers. Volume of transactions is high. You go to any decent guild store, you expect there to be some listings for those. Any more scarce, and the price would inch up.

angelncelestine wrote: »

They did. You no longer have to type out DESTROY everytime you destroy them ;-)

That's Dolgubon's add-on doing that.

Also, if there's too much change in the pricing of the chromium platings... it makes the golden become worthless, which is needed as an AP sink in the game. They could add in another sink, and then change the rates.

It's not as simple as just change the drop rates... or get rid of grains... or increase the vouchers... each of these would have a profound impact on another aspect of the game.

If they are looking into it... they need to make sure that the change they make doesn't damage the other economies in this game

Even with them halving the amount of platings you need to increase the quality of jewelry, you still need 10 grains per plating. So that's 10 green grains, 20 blue grains, 30 purple grains and 40 gold grains. The gold grains alone go for like 8+k a pop.

There's no way I'm doing Jewelry master writs. You'd have to be crazy to do them. Or just really bad at math. Or maybe Sheogorath. Nah, even Uncle Sheo wouldn't touch them.

Tabbycat wrote: »

Even with them halving the amount of platings you need to increase the quality of jewelry, you still need 10 grains per plating. So that's 10 green grains, 20 blue grains, 30 purple grains and 40 gold grains. The gold grains alone go for like 8+k a pop.

There's no way I'm doing Jewelry master writs. You'd have to be crazy to do them. Or just really bad at math. Or maybe Sheogorath. Nah, even Uncle Sheo wouldn't touch them.

Unless you get one that gives 400+ vouchers. The only legendary I did barely costed me 300k for 427 vouchers. I doubled my money by selling tables. As for epic, I only do 75+ ones, as purple plating dropped to like 20k on ps4 NA, and I personally get them at 16-18k max, so I flip the voucher into double profits. But yeah most of those jewelry master writs are craps.

This isn't even a hard fix, so only one reason it hasn't been yet really: Because it's not that important to them.

I just don't use them, sad to admit but i just destroy most of them i get...

Also, another problem with the purple tier master writs besides cost/voucher not being worth it, is that the daily jewellery writs are only awarding chromium, so the only way to get zircon is from refining and deconstructing, so funnily enough the bottleneck for jewellery crafting is not golden mats but purple ones.

NupidStoob wrote: »

Guess we can only wait for prices to drop. There are a number that cost less than 1k per voucher to craft already on PC EU. But there are also some that are 3-8k per voucher which is ridiculous. Should just be destroyed right away.

Zircon platings steadily fell from 35k to 25k and Chromium plating from 95k to 80k over the last couple months. I am actually surprised that it's going down so slowly considering there are over 1000 chromium platings currently listed, but I guess as long as people are willing to pay that much money the price will only drop very slowly.

One has to figure that if they were ever going to drop to something reasonable, they would have by now.

The lowest material cost per voucher that I have ever seen for a jewelry crafting writ is something around 990 gold/voucher. Anything I get from doing daily writs that costs over 600g/voucher - aside from Alchemy and Enchanting writs that can be used to gain easy XP for alts - I sell on one of my guild stores (if it is something that I can expect to sell that is; most jewelry crafting writs I just end up destroying).

I heard, back when jewelry crafting was first introduced - that there was a master writ for ten vouchers that required one to craft a piece with the Swift trait. The ONLY source in the game for the trait material required (Gilding Wax) is buying it from Rolis Hlaalu for 20 writ vouchers. Absolutely no jewelry with the Swift trait that can be deconstructed to obtain the trait material drops anywhere in game (the only pieces with that trait that drop anywhere at all are exemplary swift necklaces and rings for research, which cannot be deconstructed).

So it's not like the devs had ever given any of this much thought.

virtus753 wrote: »

They did “fix” them, or so they think - originally jewelry writs were in the same numerical range as other crafts (often under 10 for epic, for example).

When I submitted a ticket to Support with the math showing that the voucher value reward was still 1/16 that of other writs *after* the “fix” to voucher totals *and* the reduction of temper costs, their response was “we never promised exact numbers when we said we would improve the writ voucher totals.” But the devs *did* say that they wanted to raise the voucher rewards to “bring them in line with the other crafting writs” - which they utterly failed to do, as the math shows.

tl;dr: they think they fixed them, so they don’t consider them in need of actual fixing.

1/16th? Your math is off. Epic woodworking writs are running between 600g-800g a voucher to do right now on PC/NA. Epic JC writs are running between 900g (for a 115 voucher infused ring) to 3,000g a voucher (for a ~30 voucher "base game trait" ring)

Still horrible, yes. Still not going to do them, yes. However, hyperbole doesn't make them any more likely to change the system.

there are multiple other systems that necessitate the value of chromium platings to stay above 65k. The golden vendor as an AP/gold sink, the voucher market would be utterly flooded with vouchers if they dropped to the point that the "good" jewelry master writs were able to be done for 500-600g a voucher (a 30% decrease). I know I have about 10,000 vouchers saved up in the "good" JC writs.

This isn't just one system that can be changed independently, it's intertwined with multiple other important financial systems in the game.