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I'm forced to use a bow if I stamina DD?
Dave_Gall
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Hey , I'm a new player and I have a question : bow - the only choice for stamina DD secondary weapon?
Bow abilities like Poison Injection, Endless Hail and Toxik Barrage looks way better than anything i can get from Dual Wield or Two Handed. Soo, im stamina DD, and i need it?
Bow abilities like Poison Injection, Endless Hail and Toxik Barrage looks way better than anything i can get from Dual Wield or Two Handed. Soo, im stamina DD, and i need it?
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Asmael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Toxic Barrage is a straight up horrible ability, for the simple reason that you can't do anything else while channeling it, but Poison Injection and Endless Hail (especially with the Maelstrom bow) are your bread and butter abilities for DPS.PC EU - Zahraji of the Void, aka "Kitty", the fluffiest salmon genocider in town.
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DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭If you want to be competitive, yes. There are ways to get around that though because it is NOT needed for most content. Do you intend on doing veteran trials or score pushing vDSA?
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msalvia✭✭✭✭Bow is required to be a good stam dps for a few reasons:
1. Combat in ESO is basically a. lay down area of effect damage (i.e. AoEs) like volley/endless hail; b) apply some damage over time abilities (i.e. DoTs) like poison arrow; then c) use a "spammable" until these AoEs r and DoTs need to be reapplied.
2. Bow has hands down the most powerful AoE for stam damage, as well as some really good DoTs and passive abilities that juice dps. You'll usually swap to the other bar for your spammable (though bow/bow builds exist too).
3. Trials and dungeons routinely punish melee range players, so if you're a stam dps, you'll want SOMETHING to use when you're at a distance. Using only DW and 2H gives you zero options for ranged play. (despite the recent patch, DW is still the better option for backbar; 2H really ony shines in PvP.
There are likely more, but this starts to answer the question of why bow is required for competitive / competent dps in ESO.2 -
DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Bow is required to be a good stam dps for a few reasons:
1. Combat in ESO is basically a. lay down area of effect damage (i.e. AoEs) like volley/endless hail; b) apply some damage over time abilities (i.e. DoTs) like poison arrow; then c) use a "spammable" until these AoEs r and DoTs need to be reapplied.
2. Bow has hands down the most powerful AoE for stam damage, as well as some really good DoTs and passive abilities that juice dps. You'll usually swap to the other bar for your spammable (though bow/bow builds exist too).
3. Trials and dungeons routinely punish melee range players, so if you're a stam dps, you'll want SOMETHING to use when you're at a distance. Using only DW and 2H gives you zero options for ranged play. (despite the recent patch, DW is still the better option for backbar; 2H really ony shines in PvP.
There are likely more, but this starts to answer the question of why bow is required for competitive / competent dps in ESO.
I bolded things I would absolutely challenge. Rest is fine.0 -
deepseamk20b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭DocFrost72 wrote: »Bow is required to be a good stam dps for a few reasons:
1. Combat in ESO is basically a. lay down area of effect damage (i.e. AoEs) like volley/endless hail; b) apply some damage over time abilities (i.e. DoTs) like poison arrow; then c) use a "spammable" until these AoEs r and DoTs need to be reapplied.
2. Bow has hands down the most powerful AoE for stam damage, as well as some really good DoTs and passive abilities that juice dps. You'll usually swap to the other bar for your spammable (though bow/bow builds exist too).
3. Trials and dungeons routinely punish melee range players, so if you're a stam dps, you'll want SOMETHING to use when you're at a distance. Using only DW and 2H gives you zero options for ranged play. (despite the recent patch, DW is still the better option for backbar; 2H really ony shines in PvP.
There are likely more, but this starts to answer the question of why bow is required for competitive / competent dps in ESO.
I bolded things I would absolutely challenge. Rest is fine.
New carve is certainly better than rending slashes now at least before enemy is at low health, not sure about after . I still think it’s the dual wield passives that outshine 2h. Could you elaborate on why you think 2h is more viable than dual wield in PvE? I’m just wondering.Hey everyone! Look! It's a signature!0 -
DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »Bow is required to be a good stam dps for a few reasons:
1. Combat in ESO is basically a. lay down area of effect damage (i.e. AoEs) like volley/endless hail; b) apply some damage over time abilities (i.e. DoTs) like poison arrow; then c) use a "spammable" until these AoEs r and DoTs need to be reapplied.
2. Bow has hands down the most powerful AoE for stam damage, as well as some really good DoTs and passive abilities that juice dps. You'll usually swap to the other bar for your spammable (though bow/bow builds exist too).
3. Trials and dungeons routinely punish melee range players, so if you're a stam dps, you'll want SOMETHING to use when you're at a distance. Using only DW and 2H gives you zero options for ranged play. (despite the recent patch, DW is still the better option for backbar; 2H really ony shines in PvP.
There are likely more, but this starts to answer the question of why bow is required for competitive / competent dps in ESO.
I bolded things I would absolutely challenge. Rest is fine.
New carve is certainly better than rending slashes now at least before enemy is at low health, not sure about after . I still think it’s the dual wield passives that outshine 2h. Could you elaborate on why you think 2h is more viable than dual wield in PvE? I’m just wondering.
I didn't say 2H was better. They said it "really ony shines in PvP", which is wrong. 2H provides more than enough dps for every bit of content in the game, just won't be "top" dps.0 -
SpankinDamob✭✭✭If you have weapon / damage enchant on your bow, does each tick of endless hail have a chance to prop it? And will it only process while on my he bar with bow abilities?0
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macsmooth✭✭✭✭SpankinDamob wrote: »If you have weapon / damage enchant on your bow, does each tick of endless hail have a chance to prop it?
Yes it will tick the enchant on cool down as long as endless hail is still running and hits somethingSpankinDamob wrote: »And will it only process while on my he bar with bow abilities?
No it doesn’t matter about your bar swap as the ability will remember the enchant that it came from so you can swap to another weapon endless hail will still proc you bow enchant
I believe that’s the right way
Edited by macsmooth on June 2, 2019 9:17PM2 -
Stx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, Bow is a forced weapon for dps. And it has to do almost 100% with how much damage endless hail does, and how enchantments are allowed to proc.0