Let Us Play On ALL Our Characters For The Faction You are Faction Locked to

Fleshreaper · May 2019

bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »

Fleshreaper wrote: »

No, faction locks are to keep players from jumping sides. Keep flipping and what not.

That's just part of it. But a larger part is that, if you play all sides of a campaign, you have absolutely no allegiance. Factions need to matter again, as they did in the past. Having characters switch allegiances does not serve that end.

If that's the way ZOS is going to do it, then all your characters should have to be on the same alliance. If you want to play another alliance, you have to buy another account.

Aliyavana · May 2019

accidental comment, please delete

barney2525 · May 2019

I find this humorous

This is the game that so many veterans keep telling me is so easy to level up fast.

And yet, No One wants to admit that they can fix the whole issue by simply creating a new toon in the New desired Faction. It's not like you lose the CP the original character built up.

You are in Daggerfall, your friends started Aldis. They can make new characters in Daggerfall. You can make characters in Aldi.

So what's the problem?

Yeah, it's a little effort. But it's called Adapting to a Change.

You can either complain about it or do something about it.

IMHO

Aliyavana · May 2019

barney2525 wrote: »

I find this humorous

This is the game that so many veterans keep telling me is so easy to level up fast.

And yet, No One wants to admit that they can fix the whole issue by simply creating a new toon in the New desired Faction. It's not like you lose the CP the original character built up.

You are in Daggerfall, your friends started Aldis. They can make new characters in Daggerfall. You can make characters in Aldi.

So what's the problem?

Yeah, it's a little effort. But it's called Adapting to a Change.

You can either complain about it or do something about it.

IMHO

ya sure, let me just abandon my character with 30k achievement points, rank 48 in the alliance war, and has almost all the skill points in the game, just because I accidently went to the main cyrodil campaign with my alt

lemonizzle · May 2019

I have 810+ cp and want to make use of it in pvp, on no cp the npcs are harder (the low cp players too), there it is why I want to keep playing on Champion enabled campaigns on all characters, personally. Faction changing, coordinately flipping keeps, le fighting for muh alliance is something that is cared about by only a small core base of PvP players. Most of them, myself included just want to get ap and hit stuff. Whatever my characters faction is, I fight for it there and then, nothing beyond that.
The idea of OP or similar would be very welcome for a lot of us, since free decisions are already so widespread in pve areas.

FangOfTheTwoMoons · May 2019

Ixilith wrote: »

IMHO they should have allowed us to realign our accounts.

For anyone who had any race any class, should have been given the option to swap all their chars to one faction.

I mean sure some don’t have this and wouldn’t benefit, but In their position they never had the choice anyway.

Zos just needed to let us swap all our chars to one faction and it would have easily been a fine decision. People aren’t made over a faction lock, their mad that half their chars are no longer optional because they aren’t on the same faction.

FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

I wish this could be a thing. Belonging to an Alliance means nothing outside of pvp (unless you're RP'in or something). They only keep it so they can sell any race any alliance.

Incorrect.

This game prolly has the least money making way of profiting from races, litterally. Considering their are races that exist which are in the top 3 for every class and build in the game. You can just roll all your chars one race easily. And never need it.

Not to mention eso+ gives you the gems to buy the faction unlock anyway. So it’s not really a secondary payment at all.

Most games lock races to expansions and demand u buy latest expansions, or even go so far as lock races off til you pay a micotransacrion to unlock them individually.

I see so many attacks on eso crown store yet it’s prolly one of the best stores to date, the only fall in it realistically is the mounts being attached to a lootbox system, but even then that’s prolly one of the best of the worst.

This game gives a lot more away free then almost every mmorpg currently, and while yes in ways this move to a faction lock wasn’t thought through entirely as it is punishing players now for something they let happen before. I don’t believe their monetisation methods are bad at all

So why not make it available to play with any alliance? The fact is they don't let us do it cause they can't profit from it. It doesn't matter how large the profit is. If it's a profit they want it and they get it.

The crown store is better than most yes but it's still nefarious. Skyshards should be shared between characters, it's a redundant grind. It could be shared through an achievement, if you have all the AD skyshards it should unlock them for all characters. Mount training is another thing. Why not have the books available in game somehow? Maybe through writ vouchers or something. Some of the best cosmetics are locked in the crown store. Why not have them available in game somehow? Because they don't even want to give us the opportunity to aquire something without greasing their palms. I can't even change my hairstyle without paying them!

TheYKcid · June 2019

Way too logical a solution. We don't do that on these forums.

FierceSam · June 2019

Factions don’t matter.

They are utterly irrelevant. Doubly so if you have more than 1 character/race. I don’t fight for a faction and I have no sense of identity/loyalty to any faction. It has absolutely nothing to do with my PvE playing and, right now, it’s acting as a deterrent to my PvP playing.

I want to play PvP with my friends and I don’t care whether their character is Breton, Elf, Nord, Orc. I want to fight with them.I find it bizarre that I am forced to play for different sides on different characters. The only reason faction matters is to allow me to fight by their side. Anything that prevents that is just wrong.

But if you have to have factions, and if you have to have a faction lock, have them, but let me choose which faction all my characters fight for when I start the campaign and lock all of them to that.

The current solution is about the worst possible option you could have.

cyberjanet · June 2019

shaielzafine wrote: »

They sell any race, any alliance tokens so I don't think they'll change it so you can just go to any alliance for free.

You cannot change faction with a token. You have to delete and reroll.

Mannix1958 · June 2019

barney2525 wrote: »

I find this humorous

This is the game that so many veterans keep telling me is so easy to level up fast.

And yet, No One wants to admit that they can fix the whole issue by simply creating a new toon in the New desired Faction. It's not like you lose the CP the original character built up.

You are in Daggerfall, your friends started Aldis. They can make new characters in Daggerfall. You can make characters in Aldi.

So what's the problem?

Yeah, it's a little effort. But it's called Adapting to a Change.

You can either complain about it or do something about it.

IMHO

The issue is not characters...I have 18...16 maxxed out. Its about playing any of my toons with my friends on whatever server they happen to be on.

Aliyavana · June 2019

glad to see the amount of support for this guys

SenniApoelvis · June 2019

I honestly thought that's what faction locked meant when I first saw it, kinda disappointed it's not.

D0PAMINE · June 2019

Aliyavana wrote: »

glad to see the amount of support for this guys

You will take the awesome and like it.

BRogueNZ · June 2019

I'd buy that for a dollar, great idea.

UnknownNick · June 2019

Sanctum74 wrote: »

Zos was very generous to still allow an unlocked campaign

ZoS has been fair, not generous

Sanctum74 wrote: »

As wells as bg's, IC

Only because BGs and IC are PvP-related, it doesn't mean they're the same content / activity as Cyrodiil

Sanctum74 wrote: »

And there's still pve so none of your characters are locked and you can still play with your friends across various forms of content.

What PvE has to do with PvP? This is not a solution nor a compromise to the problem - not a valid one at least

rumple9 · June 2019

Just lay on a 30 day unlocked campaign

Olupajmibanan · June 2019

If faction lock for all characters is out of question, at least start selling faction change tokens.

Faction change tokens are the second best idea after faction lock for all characters. It's even attractive for ZoS, these tokens would certainly sell a lot.

sionIV · June 2019

I don't want no stinking Aldmeri Dominion on my side! The only way I could see this work is if ZOS made a loser faction for EP and AD. *Dramatic voice to ignite faction hatred*

AlnilamE · June 2019

rumple9 wrote: »

Just lay on a 30 day unlocked campaign

There is absolutely no rationale for a 30-day unlocked campaign. If you want to hop factions, you don't care about the campaign, after all.

A 7-day non-CP is the ideal solution here.

Shardaxx · June 2019

Aliyavana wrote: »

So let my native AD character, who is locked out due to accidently going into Cyrodil with a EP character

Well lesson learned there then. Hardly worth asking for the game to change because you chose a locked campaign then "accidently" confirmed you wanted to enter as AD.

SoLooney · June 2019

This faction lock is stupid but I understand why zos did it, from all the alliance hopping and spying.

I pvp on reds and blues and have to choose whether I wanna play on my stamden or magplar for the month in cp 30 day campaign

I am for this, I dont mind the faction lock if out other toons in other alliances, can also play in the same faction

Also, limits my transmutes for the month...

Or you know zos, sell alliance change tokens...

mikemacon · June 2019

No.

Aliyavana · June 2019

mikemacon wrote: »

No.

yes.

Ohtimbar · June 2019

This is a quality suggestion. Simple and effective.

bulbousb16_ESO · June 2019

Ohtimbar wrote: »

This is a quality suggestion. Simple and effective.

This is a terrible suggestion. Makes no sense whatsoever and would take a massive effort on behalf of developers. Characters do not switch factions willy-nilly once a month.

Ohtimbar · June 2019

bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »

Ohtimbar wrote: »

This is a quality suggestion. Simple and effective.

This is a terrible suggestion. Makes no sense whatsoever and would take a massive effort on behalf of developers. Characters do not switch factions willy-nilly once a month.

Each to their own, of course, but I can't fathom how this would negatively affect anyone.

bulbousb16_ESO · June 2019

Ohtimbar wrote: »

I can't fathom how this would negatively affect anyone.

Not surprising; that seems to be a common theme amongst supporters of this idea. Consider the amount of development resources required to implement this change. This will detract from much more important other initiatives, changes and fixes, all for something that is frivolous.

Ohtimbar · June 2019

bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »

Ohtimbar wrote: »

I can't fathom how this would negatively affect anyone.

Not surprising; that seems to be a common theme amongst supporters of this idea. Consider the amount of development resources required to implement this change. This will detract from much more important other initiatives, changes and fixes, all for something that is frivolous.

How would you or I actually know how much effort it would require? I suspect that neither of us do. It's also not my problem. I'm the customer.

bulbousb16_ESO · June 2019

Ohtimbar wrote: »

How would you or I actually know how much effort it would require?

Well, consider that the far-more-requested implementation of Alliance Change tokens - something that could actually be a revenue-generator for the game - was said to be a very heavy lift for the development team. And that was for a one-time-only change. This concept has players changing frequently and temporarily, so one can only speculate it would be that much more effort.

Ohtimbar · June 2019

bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »

Ohtimbar wrote: »

How would you or I actually know how much effort it would require?

Well, consider that the far-more-requested implementation of Alliance Change tokens - something that could actually be a revenue-generator for the game - was said to be a very heavy lift for the development team. And that was for a one-time-only change. This concept has players changing frequently and temporarily, so one can only speculate it would be that much more effort.

Reasonable, but still conjecture. We simply don't know for certain. I like the idea, as it is conceptually clean and simple. Implementation is for zos to worry about. I don't see it happening any time soon regardless.