Health Condition: Requesting Rotation (MagPlar, PetSorc, MagBlade)

Mekhet · May 2019

Hoping for a solo PvE endgame build I can manage despite a health condition that reduces my capacity to do repetitive rotations, weave, spam light attacks, or hold down keys for things like heavy attacks. I know this is a tall order.

I wanted to try a Magicka Templar or Pet Sorcerer. The Magplar/PetSorc builds I have watched show players using amazing, rapid rotations--often with his or her hair on fire; they are quite fun to watch and learn about. Yet, they are way outside my capabilities.

A delay of a few seconds between each click would help. Skills that are one click and last a while would be best, but I know that is not always possible.

Can anyone theorycraft an endgame PvE Magplar (or Pet Sorc) like this?

Wuuffyy · May 2019

Werewolf LA spam... Bloodmoon Rele Kena 40k dps w/no berserk or fracture, super tank, and a super heal dot or a 1 button major brutality given super heal.

zvavi · May 2019

A delay of few seconds after each cast will be very hard. Very. Especially since eso is more about real time combat, and macro's like in WoW are not allowed. Skill cooldown is a second (usually) therefore theoretically most builds will require you to cast twice every second in average (light attack, skill, bar swap, potion). Magicka class gets 20-25% of it's damage from light attacks. No weaving is a lot of lost damage. I mean, pet sorc is actually a good option, wince just slotting matriach bring forth damage, and just doing 4 damage over time effects with 1 heavy attack per rotation is a thing (wall, liquid, monkey, curse). If you want a non repetitive rotation, now thats much harder. The not repetitive ones are the ones that has most input, most exhausting rotations.

phaneub17_ESO · May 2019

Console or PC? If it's on PC you can play mostly one-handed with a 12-key thumbpad mouse. Very low range of motion and the buttons are closer together with less clicky feel. For me I use an old Razer Naga with the shoulder buttons to the side of the left mouse button.

Basic setup:
1 2 3 4 6 are the action skills
5 is Interact Key
7 for Quickslots
8 for Ultimate
9 is Weapon Swap
10 is Use Synergy
11 for Jump
12 is Sprint
Front Shoulder button is Mount
Rear Shoulder button is Dodge Roll
Mousewheel button is Auto Run.

idk · May 2019

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

Werewolf LA spam... Bloodmoon Rele Kena 40k dps w/no berserk or fracture, super tank, and a super heal dot or a 1 button major brutality given super heal.

OP plays an mSorc and mPlar. WW is the worst choice for a magicka character unless they changed it to scale of the highest of whatever stat you have. Last time I checked it scaled off stam and WD.

To OP, pet sorc would be the simplest rotation out there as you have fewer skills to work with. However, anything will have repetition.

1. What do you mean by "end game"?
2. GCD is 1 second so pressing a button every few seconds will lower your dps.

I suggest looking at Alcasts builds for both Templars and Pet Sorc. The Pet Sorc build is the simplest rotation of everything and includes a heavy attack. You can ignore the light attacks (LA) as that would increase the challenge.

Pet builds are considered the easiest builds in the game. Also, while not knowing your condition, I find using a 12 button mouse for skills to be easiest. It permits left hand to work with just movement and right hand to press the buttons to execute skills. It does take time to get used to but as long as your thumbs are not more impaired than fingers you may find it helpful. Just a thought, do not know if it will help since I do not know the situation.

Edit: just because it has 12 buttons does not mean you have to use all of them. I have skills and bar swap on two rows of skills, 6 buttons.

Also, Alcat's pet build has a one pet and two pet rotation. So there are options for you to look at.

fred4 · May 2019

zvavi wrote: »

...and macro's like in WoW are not allowed.

This would be the point where ZOS might jump in to confirm the veracity of that statement. There are programmable mice and keyboards as well as software solutions on the PC platform that might help greatly.

I suppose it depends on your definition of solo PvE endgame. vMA will be impossible with a delay of a few seconds between each click. Overland questing and, perhaps, some delves and public dungeons may be possible.

A Sweeps spamming magplar is one of the simplest yet effective builds to play, but would require repetitive keypresses. I'd probably vote for a double pet sorc instead. You'd just need to activate your pets from time to time, put down Elemental Blockade and heavy attack with a lightning staff. Unfortunately that would still require you to hold down the left mouse key for most of combat.

Firstmep · May 2019

Heavy attack petsorc.

Scamp,matriarch,inner light, bound armor.
Leaves you with 1 skill to use per bar such as deadric prey and wall of elements.

Put down wall, apply curse, heavy attack.

You can swap in liquid lightning for more aoe or drop inner light and gain 2 extra slots for a slightly more complex rotation.
Wont beat any scoreboards but should be fine for 90% of the games content.
Necropotence+ mothers sorrow, both can bought from guild stores.
Use whatever monsterset u like.

Mekhet · May 2019

Thank you kindly for your replies and suggestions.

idk wrote: »

What do you mean by "end game"?

By end game, I just hope to do as much content outside of pvp and vma that I can. I hope to max all tradeskills and champion points and do as many quests and dungeons as possible. I also mentioned an endgame build because if I hobble my way to endgame and find out that the class rotation changes and cannot remain slow and steady, I am in serious trouble.

zvavi wrote: »

I'd probably vote for a double pet sorc instead. You'd just need to activate your pets from time to time, put down Elemental Blockade and heavy attack with a lightning staff. Unfortunately that would still require you to hold down the left mouse key for most of combat.

This approach seems great with one exception: the heavy attack. As you noted, that requires me to hold a button down, not just click it. If heavy attack were a single click (with a long cast time or something) it would be fine.

Repetition in the rotation is completely fine, as long as the rotation is slower.

Is there any single click skill I could replace heavy attack with?

fred4 wrote: »

A Sweeps spamming magplar is one of the simplest yet effective builds to play, but would require repetitive keypresses.

Does it require heavy attacks or holding down buttons?

If not and someone could recommend how to slow the rotation a little this might work.

Spartabunny08 · May 2019

Ok I see so you can't hold buttons down for like heavy attack, right? I have multiple suggestions and ideas. First off your gonna imo and it's actually what I do myself but tanky is going to be how you survive. Templars are very tanky and the jabs is an aoe cone with the right damage obliterates most everything in your path. But after reading your responses heavy attack is important for resources and since that may be your primary issue the sorcerer can take it's stamina and convert it to magick with the dark deal ability. So you could possibly make a pet sorcerer and just drop your liquid lightning, a curse and let the pets do the rest and I think you may be able to do just what you're wanting to do with that. Next is Breton comes with best resource regen passively but also Argonian has the potion passive better healing and overall more tanky with resources, my personal choice. Honestly, Rattlecage major sorcery uptime 100% no buffs paired with fortified brass 5 heavy 2 light, your choice of weapons and monster sets. Infuse spell dmg on jewelry. For general content this build is OP. If you're on Ps4 would be glad to help.

LurgidBean · May 2019

I don't know if I'm allowed to link to a Reddit thread, but I found this discussion helpful for figuring out my (mostly) one bar build. I linked to Triton900 comments on magplar, they explain pretty in-depth a magplar setup that finally allowed me to get through the game without frustrations.

https://reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/7ypn9a/comment/duj0ldm

Mekhet · May 2019

I do so appreciate the replies. I hope to finalize a solution so Tamriel expeditions can commence with a class/rotation I can handle from start to full cp.

Spartabunny08 wrote: »

But after reading your responses heavy attack is important for resources and since that may be your primary issue the sorcerer can take it's stamina and convert it to magick with the dark deal ability. So you could possibly make a pet sorcerer and just drop your liquid lightning, a curse and let the pets do the rest and I think you may be able to do just what you're wanting to do with that.

If Dark Conversion can be used periodically instead of heavy attack, that would be exceptional. Pet Sorcerer's do not use stamina (?), so there should be plenty for that skill, maybe? And with Breton, I may only have to use it infrequently?

Your post also caused me to speculate about gear. Staff LA/HA are based on spell damage. Since I cannot manage those and since pets scale off of max magicka, I planned to concentrate on gear boosting max magicka exclusively. But now I am concerned about too little spell damage for magicka cost skills. Apparently, they are boosted by both max magicka AND spell damage. No idea what is the right balance as pets are a big part of summoner damage.

LurgidBean wrote: »

{From the Reddit advice by Triton900} Bar 1 - Dual Wield: Puncturing Sweep, Harness Magicka, Blazing Spear, Radiant Destruction, Inner Light, Nova or Meateor Bar 2 (Optional if your feeling up to it!) - Destro: Channeled Focus, Elemental Blockade, Vampires Bane/Reflective, Elemental Drain, Inner Light, Destro Ult

Simple rotation: Elemenal Blockade, Vampires Bane/Reflective, Ele Drain- SWAP- Harness and sweep away while working in Blazing Spear. As long as you have Harness up during the swap and DoT application phase, you are good to go!

I read that post, I thank you, and had three fast questions--

1. What does Dual Wield do in that build?

2. In your practice and experience, can this rotation be accomplished somewhat slowly and methodically, with about a 2-second delay between each skill? Or is it fairly rapid?

3. Can it be done without using Heavy Attacks?

fred4 · May 2019

Let me try and answer:

1. Dual-wield is out of date. In current patches magicka templars should best use a lightning staff - but see below.

2. The really hard end-game content (arenas, trials, veteran dungeons, DLC dungeons) requires multiple inputs per second, sometimes as much as 4, e.g. light attack, block, skill, dodge roll. You won't be able to do that content. It's really a question of figuring out how far you can get without that. Questing, delves, public dungeons and some world bosses may be feasible.

3. Yes.

Off the top of my head, I wouldn't worry too much about stats. I am a PvPer, by the way, and used to making balanced builds. Perhaps keep it super simple. Magicka templar, single bar, something like:

5x Light Armor (this is where you get your damage. Heavy magplar damage sucks.)
2x Heavy Armor
Atronach Mundus
Witchmother's Potent Brew

2x Troll King (saves you)
5x Fortified Brass (makes you tanky, despite light armor. Crafted set.)
5x Bright Throat's Boast

Get Arcane Blue Bright Throat's Boast jewelry for cheap. Experiment with enchants for a balance of sustain and damage.

Your one and only weapon: A gold, Nirnhoned RESTO STAFF. Why the resto? It allows you to run Mutagen, which will reliably activate Troll King, even when you don't cast skills. Going for healing over time and being a little bit tanky should be good enough for the content you are playing. It will be more forgiving than playstyles that require healing skills or Harness Magicka and it makes it easier to stay on attack. Skills:

Puncturing Sweeps
Inner Light (passive, don't need to cast)
Radiant Glory (takes 1.8 seconds, thus a good skill for you)
Channeled Focus (long term buff, too good to pass up for sustain and defense)
Mutagen (long term buff, reliably activates Troll King, even if you don't run Sweeps)

Ultimate of your choice. You can experiment with an offensive ult or the resto ult.

fred4 · May 2019

I guess you probably don't have Troll King. The head piece requires you to run Blessed Crucible on vet. That should be possible, if you get a group of friends to carry you. You only need to do this once.

The shoulders are an issue, as they are random drops from an Undaunted chest. You can run normal pledges to get them, but it could take quite a few runs, before RNG blesses you with those. You would, again, need a group of friends to carry you, most likely.

The Golden weekend vendor sells monster set pieces for gold (100K, I believe). What she sells is random, each weekend, but if you are lucky you might pick up Troll King from her.

Monster sets are very powerful ... it's kind of hard for me to think of a build without them. I think Troll King would be ideal. It heals you almost passively, which means you can focus on combat rather than being backed into a corner.

fred4 · May 2019

What platform are you on?

idk · May 2019

Mekhet wrote: »

Thank you kindly for your replies and suggestions.

idk wrote: »

What do you mean by "end game"?

By end game, I just hope to do as much content outside of pvp and vma that I can. I hope to max all tradeskills and champion points and do as many quests and dungeons as possible. I also mentioned an endgame build because if I hobble my way to endgame and find out that the class rotation changes and cannot remain slow and steady, I am in serious trouble.

zvavi wrote: »

I'd probably vote for a double pet sorc instead. You'd just need to activate your pets from time to time, put down Elemental Blockade and heavy attack with a lightning staff. Unfortunately that would still require you to hold down the left mouse key for most of combat.

This approach seems great with one exception: the heavy attack. As you noted, that requires me to hold a button down, not just click it. If heavy attack were a single click (with a long cast time or something) it would be fine.

Repetition in the rotation is completely fine, as long as the rotation is slower.

Is there any single click skill I could replace heavy attack with?

fred4 wrote: »

A Sweeps spamming magplar is one of the simplest yet effective builds to play, but would require repetitive keypresses.

Does it require heavy attacks or holding down buttons?

If not and someone could recommend how to slow the rotation a little this might work.

Then I would suggest the pet sorc because it allows the pets to do most of the damage so if you derp something it has less of an impact than anything else. TBH, if you use a mouse like I suggested before you could program a macro on a button to be your heavy attack. Press it and it does the heavy attack. No one would know. Just do not use it to do multiple skills in a row.

I would not suggest the Templar jabs build unless you have good area awareness. People who lack good area awareness tend to die more often in melee range since they are right next to the boss.

Do not get me wrong, templar jabs build is easy but I still think the pet build will perform better if you miss a button push. Since you have both, play with both and see what works best for your situation.

Vajrak · May 2019

Mekhet wrote: »

Hoping for a solo PvE endgame build I can manage despite a health condition that reduces my capacity to do repetitive rotations, weave, spam light attacks, or hold down keys for things like heavy attacks. I know this is a tall order.

I wanted to try a Magicka Templar or Pet Sorcerer. The Magplar/PetSorc builds I have watched show players using amazing, rapid rotations--often with his or her hair on fire; they are quite fun to watch and learn about. Yet, they are way outside my capabilities.

A delay of a few seconds between each click would help. Skills that are one click and last a while would be best, but I know that is not always possible.

Can anyone theorycraft an endgame PvE Magplar (or Pet Sorc) like this?

Solo Endgame PvE build with several seconds between blocks, and limited heavy attacks...
First off, Thank you for the challenge in presenting this, it's actually a rather interesting issue and something I have a build for someone else that is not quite as restricted, so just going to adjust that for you.

Forget about Templar, period, for this. Templar has a lot of key presses going on, and that is rather against what you are asking for.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=149132

Use Overload to keep your magicka up with light attacks if you absolutely need to, but this build you get a press every 4 seconds at most other than light attacking as desired. It'll let you bring some damage and some utility heals to solo or group play, the hardest part to get is ilambris, but overall you should be able to still put out around 16-18k single target with minimal presses --- just remember to keep blockade up and the scamp firing (so about every 8 seconds)

fred4 · May 2019

Well, Vajrak, if that does as much damage as you say, then my templar is beat. It's squishier than I would build, but I've played stamsorc and can believe that the combination of Surge and AOEs, plus the twilight heal, makes for good soloing. That much DPS means you'll pull your weight in dungeons too, even the easier vet dungeons, and farming a monster helm / shoulders may be viable. Dungeons may require break free / blocking / rolling though.

Altyrann · May 2019

@Mekhet - if you're trying to find a setup that will not need too many button presses while giving you a decent chance of getting through content I'd largely ignore spammable abilities.

If you can keep two or three AoE DoTs running and have some sort of heal or shield going you should be in decent shape for most things.

For stamina, for example you could run endless hail, caltrops and acid spray while using vigor to keep health up. Endless hail and caltrops need using every 10 seconds or so while acid spray and vigor are every 5s or so. You could then put evil hunter in the 5th slot to keep crit up without needing potions. If you don't want to worry about potions you could then put a skill that gives major brutality on the back bar so you'd only have to swap weapons every 20 to 30 seconds. Being at range would also give you a little more time to react to some mechanics and hopefully minimise strain from that as a result.

Mekhet · May 2019

Thank you for the responses. It is heartening to have a few options to investigate to see what fits best.

@idk I laughed when I read that as my 'area awareness' is not impressive. Melee range is perhaps a recipe for trouble.

@fred4 Thank you for arranging a plan for the Templar with skills and gear. I definitely do not have the shoulder or headpiece, but that is a goal to strive for long term.

@Vajrak that link is so helpful as I can see details: gear, skills and such, very cool. Although this is clear to you, I am sure--what would the rotation be? And secondly, is there any way I can avoid Overload/LA? I do not suppose Dark Conversion would work instead?

@Altyrann I would love to try this as an option too. What stamina class would you use for the "AoE DoT" ranged bow build? Nightblade? I thought Nightblade or stamina would be even speedier rotations but there do seem to be a lot of long cast dots for bow/bow.

Vajrak · May 2019

Mekhet wrote: »

Thank you for the responses. It is heartening to have a few options to investigate to see what fits best.

@idk I laughed when I read that as my 'area awareness' is not impressive. Melee range is perhaps a recipe for trouble.

@fred4 Thank you for arranging a plan for the Templar with skills and gear. I definitely do not have the shoulder or headpiece, but that is a goal to strive for long term.

@Vajrak that link is so helpful as I can see details: gear, skills and such, very cool. Although this is clear to you, I am sure--what would the rotation be? And secondly, is there any way I can avoid Overload/LA? I do not suppose Dark Conversion would work instead?

@Altyrann I would love to try this as an option too. What stamina class would you use for the "AoE DoT" ranged bow build? Nightblade? I thought Nightblade or stamina would be even speedier rotations but there do seem to be a lot of long cast dots for bow/bow.

Mostly just let the pets do the work and keep the DoTs up as needed---this includes using the shattering prison both to activate the crit bonus from dark magic skills and to keep things locked down on your pets. Overload/LA absolutely not required for it, in which case just throw in the destro ult or another sorc ult to raise your spell damage. A similar build was made for a friend of mine with debilitating RA in the hands and shoulders, which is why I have an idea of what it's DPS output is---I'm sure it could be forced higher with weaving and such, but as presented it allows a mostly passive play style. You really shouldn't be pressing anything enough for magicka to run out beyond what pots and wall can restore.

Mekhet · May 2019

@Vajrak Very clear; I thank you for the details

Altyrann · May 2019

Mekhet wrote: »

Thank you for the responses. It is heartening to have a few options to investigate to see what fits best.

@idk I laughed when I read that as my 'area awareness' is not impressive. Melee range is perhaps a recipe for trouble.

@fred4 Thank you for arranging a plan for the Templar with skills and gear. I definitely do not have the shoulder or headpiece, but that is a goal to strive for long term.

@Vajrak that link is so helpful as I can see details: gear, skills and such, very cool. Although this is clear to you, I am sure--what would the rotation be? And secondly, is there any way I can avoid Overload/LA? I do not suppose Dark Conversion would work instead?

@Altyrann I would love to try this as an option too. What stamina class would you use for the "AoE DoT" ranged bow build? Nightblade? I thought Nightblade or stamina would be even speedier rotations but there do seem to be a lot of long cast dots for bow/bow.

For bow/bow I'd recommend either warden or sorcerer. Both have access to major brutality on class skills and both can add a bit of extra healing via surge or lotus. For warden you could then look to add subterranean assault into the rotation. For sorcerer you could have bound armaments as a slotted skill you don't need to activate or hurricane if in melee range. The idea on both is the same. While you won't find many long cast time abilities in this game, the bulk of your damage comes from your top few DoT skills, so if you can keep those up even with gaps in between you will still do a reasonable amount without having to press a button every second.

Mekhet · May 2019

@Altyrann Very interesting. I will look at the skills on those two classes. Thank you for the idea

fred4 · May 2019

Stamsorc, being a sorcerer, is a variation on the theme of doing AOE damage and getting strong crit surge healing as a result. I can't imagine that beating Vajrak's tested pet sorc build, though.

I've played warden. The thing about using Subterranean Assault is that you have to keep it up, like clockwork every 3 seconds, otherwise your damage plummets. It's actually not that easy, even with good coordination, because you have other stuff to do as well. Even if you only cast it for the Major Fracture that also only lasts for 5 seconds.

The more I think about it, the more I think Vajrak's build will be unbeatable for your purposes and by a large margin too.

Mekhet · May 2019

@fred4 your experience with Subterranean Assault is precisely why I reached out here for guidance. That combination might make the rotation too ungainly for me. I may sustain that on occasion, but not with any consistency. A more passive method is likely the safest. Thank you for your help.

Mekhet · May 2019

After playing with sundry passive approaches, I settled on Vajrak's build and aim to do my best to take it to the endgame. Thank you to everyone in this thread who made suggestions and gave guidance. In short, I am set.

HOWEVER! And I promise this is my last question. I have one final request for a second casual 'passive as possible' playstyle character to level in concert with Vajrak's Sorcerer. It is likely a pipe dream.

As a guilty pleasure, I sporadically watch Khajiit magicka thief nightblade videos, sighing discontentedly, as I know the rotation is too rapid for me. But I happened upon a Youtube video entitled "ESO Builds For Fun: "The Cutpurse" Nightblade, Khajiit Thief Build" by SpaceKong Gaming.

Except for spamming cloak, I could play it using invisibility potions to flee guards if all went south on the heist. The problem is managing level 50 with a spam-central magblade. Any ideas on how I could "dumb down" the magicka nightblade so I could get to my happy place and steal all of the NPCs blind with a tiny mischief-making Khajiit?

;tldr easyish Khajiit Magikca Nightblade for thieving fun at endgame, but no clue how to slow the rotation down to PvE solo to 50. It may not even be possible but since you all solved my other issue, I wanted to ask.

fred4 · May 2019

Invisibility potions are temperamental. For example, if a projectile is in the air and you quaff the Invisbility potion (or you cloak), the projectile will still hit you and uncloak you. Potions have a 45 second cooldown. If you are accidentally uncloaked, you're done. You can get that cooldown down to 21 seconds with potion cooldown reduction glyphs, but that is still a long time. Doing something stupid, like interacting with the world or even just sprinting, also uncloaks you.

fred4 · May 2019

OK, I watched half the video. It is out of date and the guy haphazardly combines stuff that works with stuff that doesn't, for cloak sustain. The real head-scratcher is why he didn't slot Concealed Weapon for the 25% movement speed bonus in cloak and crouch.

Make a Khajiit and try to get two of the following sets for cheap:

Night Terror
Night Mother's Embrace
Vesture of Darloc Brae

You're going to crouch, not cloak. With those sets and Khajiit you will have a 7m reduced detection radius. I've heard of players standing in front of NPCs noses with such setups, and they wouldn't detect them, but you should experiment with that setup in the current patch, before you do anything further. If it works, then:

Vampire is recommended for the speed in crouch.
Steed Mundus for the speed.
Swift jewelry for the speed, if you have transmute crystals to burn.

If you don't want to be a vampire you could craft Night's Silence, but you will have a larger detection radius.

Suggested skills:

Concealed Weapon for the 25% speed passive in crouch and cloak.

Channeled Acceleration (Psijic skill) for Major Expedition, because it costs magicka and doesn't unhide you. Rapid Maneuvers is bad, because it burns a lot of stam and unhides you.

Leeching Strikes to get stam back when it expires. It's a net win.

I'd probably go for Well-Fitted gear.

Mekhet · May 2019

@fred4 I thank you. Great advice on cloaking, invisibility potions, gear and proceeding forward.

Going with my hope of being the best possible PvE thief I can outside of combat, and adding in your proposals:

Pure Thief

Race: Khajiit (pickpocket, stealthy)
Class: Stamina Nightblade
Armor: Medium for even more stealth passives
Vampire

Focus: Legerdemain, Thieves Guild, PvE Shenanigans

There is one slight problem obtaining my dream goal of master stamina thief: Somehow hobbling through PvE leveling without Light Attacks, Heavy Attacks, or Rapid Clicking.

Ideas:

If I could get to the stage where I can apply the AoE ideas mentioned by @Altyrann above. I could slowly level.

Getting to a bow/bow build early will be difficult. Ironically, the PvP part for Caltrops/Vigor is probably nothing. It will take a long time, but I have read I can just repair walls, die, repair walls, die and then never do PvP again (except in my nightmares).

I do not mind leveling with Duel Wield and Bow until I can drop DW for another bow, but I need to dot or do something to reduce the click speed to kill off the PvE monsters until I reach high-level heist happiness.

My dps will always be dreadful, but if I can just use the right combination of skills to simply get by in PvE, I will be gratified.

fre4 mentioned concealed weapon, channeled acceleration (when I can get it), and leeching strikes to begin with. Note: Leeching Strikes and Relentless Focus are out because they use Light Attacks, right?

Endgame concept is to hopefully keep up a lot of dots to reduce constant button pushing. I think these will work: Endless Hail (10s), Razor Caltrops (12s), Dark Shades (15s), Acid Spray (6s Dot) with Poison Injection and Snipe tossed in sometimes.

1. Once I have high-level dots, I think all will be adequate to PvE. However--any ideas for a patch job on leveling without spamming skills? How to level this thing is ... beyond me right now.

fred4 · May 2019

Regarding levelling, you could group up with one other person and let them level you in a place like Skyreach or Spellscar. It's actually the fastest way.

Leeching Strikes returns more stamins than it cost to cast it, once it runs out or is recast (after a while). No light / heavy attacks required.

Mekhet · June 2019

@fred4 Oh, I see--will try Leeching Strikes. And I slotted Concealed Weapon for the sneaking movement increase. I thank you for your help.

And as for leveling, I stumbled to level eight. I just shoot a Lethal Arrow or two as they charge at me, jaws snapping, mouths agape, ravening, roaring, pillaging, marauding; I then teleport strike, Endless Hail, and conclude with Killer's Blade.

Even with my slow clicking, this has been sufficient. How effective leveling this stamina horror in my teens, twenties, thirties, and beyond remains to be seen. I am cautiously optimistic as this could go south on me quickly.

But for now, my thieving happy place has been secured. My career has taken off, pilfering so much from the good people of Tamriel that I have can no longer sell or launder at a fence. I will have to put a precious skill point into Trafficker as soon as possible...