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It is long past time to do something about this bank space
ryzen_gamer_gal
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AND NO I DONT WANT ANY ADDON SUGGESTIONS THEY ARE ALL USELESS
It's long past due that something be done about the bang space organization. Oraginizing geat by body type rather that by all the items that belong to a set is about the most useless organizing scheme there is. You could only possibly make it worse by listing everything alphabetically.
For example, when i open the bank space and scroll through my stored gear, i should see, for example, all items beloning to burning spellweave, regardless of the names of the items, all grouped together. Then and only then should they be sorted by body type. And so for every set type.
There is currently NO addon that does this so DO NOT give me addon suggestions.
Really, this interface is crap in the bank.
It's long past due that something be done about the bang space organization. Oraginizing geat by body type rather that by all the items that belong to a set is about the most useless organizing scheme there is. You could only possibly make it worse by listing everything alphabetically.
For example, when i open the bank space and scroll through my stored gear, i should see, for example, all items beloning to burning spellweave, regardless of the names of the items, all grouped together. Then and only then should they be sorted by body type. And so for every set type.
There is currently NO addon that does this so DO NOT give me addon suggestions.
Really, this interface is crap in the bank.
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Browiseth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭a soothing voice whispers on the wind, "advanced filters addon and also voltan's search bar"
Edited by Browiseth on May 27, 2019 9:27AMskingrad when zoscharacters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
- EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
- EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
- EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Listing gear alphabetically is fine It works great. The issue is some sets have the set name first and others have the slot name first.
All set bonus gear should have the set name first, followed by the gear. Night Mothers Gaze Chops should be the format for all gear. Not Chops of the Night Mother's Gaze.
I believe that is what you are trying to say.0 -
ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭no i am not trying to say that either. the reason why is there are uniquely named set items that would be excluded from that method1
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blnchk✭✭✭✭✭ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »AND NO I DONT WANT ANY ADDON SUGGESTIONS
Have one anway, because addons are likely to be your only option in the foreseeable future: Auto Category - Revised
With custom rules, you should be able to add named set items. I wouldn't hold my breath hoping for an official rework, in any case.Edited by blnchk on May 27, 2019 10:20AM0 -
lassitershawn✭✭✭✭✭MOAR BANK SPACEWilliam Thorne - EP Breton Sorcerer
Astrid Winterborn - EP Breton Warden
Erik Ironskin - EP Nord Dragonknight
Venasa Viri - EP Dunmer Nightblade
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OrphanHelgen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I agree 100%. People who say just do this and that, just want to argue. It is pain, and yes specially with the sets that starts with "robe of the xxx". My search addon is bugged as well, yes I updated. It's hidden behind something else idk. I don't think rely on addons are a good thing in the first place, and then zos be like "It's not our fault it's the addon we have nothing to do about it".
Designing a clean inventory and bank management in an mmo should be one of the first things on the list.PC, EU server, Ebonheart Pact
Finally a reason not to play League of Legends3 -
ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭OrphanHelgen wrote: »I agree 100%. People who say just do this and that, just want to argue. It is pain, and yes specially with the sets that starts with "robe of the xxx". My search addon is bugged as well, yes I updated. It's hidden behind something else idk. I don't think rely on addons are a good thing in the first place, and then zos be like "It's not our fault it's the addon we have nothing to do about it".
Designing a clean inventory and bank management in an mmo should be one of the first things on the list.
And to top it off, i play on a 43 inch tv with a gamepad.
i have no use for these addons, esp when i stated twice
****I DONT WANT ANY SUGGESTIONS.****
Thank you for not offering any. I appreciate you.
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Androconium✭✭✭✭✭
✭ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »OrphanHelgen wrote: »I agree 100%. People who say just do this and that, just want to argue. It is pain, and yes specially with the sets that starts with "robe of the xxx". My search addon is bugged as well, yes I updated. It's hidden behind something else idk. I don't think rely on addons are a good thing in the first place, and then zos be like "It's not our fault it's the addon we have nothing to do about it".
Designing a clean inventory and bank management in an mmo should be one of the first things on the list.
And to top it off, i play on a 43 inch tv with a gamepad.
i have no use for these addons, esp when i stated twice
****I DONT WANT ANY SUGGESTIONS.****
Thank you for not offering any. I appreciate you.
I suggest that you stop flogging this dead horse. It's dead because it was carrying too much stuff.0 -
RexyCat✭✭✭✭OrphanHelgen wrote: »I agree 100%. People who say just do this and that, just want to argue. It is pain, and yes specially with the sets that starts with "robe of the xxx". My search addon is bugged as well, yes I updated. It's hidden behind something else idk. I don't think rely on addons are a good thing in the first place, and then zos be like "It's not our fault it's the addon we have nothing to do about it".
Designing a clean inventory and bank management in an mmo should be one of the first things on the list.
They can't change how UI work now as that would probably break a lot of add on that have been made to improve UI. Main problem as have been pointed out is the naming scheme and internal ID for each item. Take such things as "scroll" which we have plenty of in this game. You can't use "scroll" to auto junk item (and sell them the first time you interact with an NPC vendor) as there are too many version of scrolls that have different function in game.
My experience with GW2, PoE etc is that it is hard to create a long lasting solution for inventory management as the core features change over time the older a game gets and when you add new material (as in expansion with new sets;mats etc) that didn't exist when game where released. Add on is at least a better feature as it not tied to core design (outside of necessary API) and give each author at least more flexible tool to work around those limitation. If Zenimax had to redesign UI related to inventory management from within games own or fix problem related to inventor management then it would likely take much more time to see those fixes.
As for Bank management there is Bank Manager Revieved that make it easier to set up profile for each character or for having a profile that is the same for all and to move items through profile. Compared to other games I believe BMR are one of the better solution to actually transfer items between characters or to collect items in bank for later usage. It can also auto transfer to guild banks, so it is in my opinion a very good tool for Bank management.
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LartenCrepsley✭✭✭just something to consider.... it took world of warcraft (the biggest, most lucrative mmo out there) over 10 years after release to just add a search bar to there bank, so i highly doubt it high up there on a list of priorities for a developer as small as zos1
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »no i am not trying to say that either. the reason why is there are uniquely named set items that would be excluded from that method
Sorry, but the OP seemed to be talking around what you were trying to day.
Regardless, it would still work as I suggested before. Zos just changes the names of uniquely named items to fit the nomenclature. It is the way it should be, should have been all along.0 -
RexyCat✭✭✭✭OrphanHelgen wrote: »I agree 100%. People who say just do this and that, just want to argue. It is pain, and yes specially with the sets that starts with "robe of the xxx". My search addon is bugged as well, yes I updated. It's hidden behind something else idk. I don't think rely on addons are a good thing in the first place, and then zos be like "It's not our fault it's the addon we have nothing to do about it".
Designing a clean inventory and bank management in an mmo should be one of the first things on the list.
If you use Advanced Filter as add on and it is broken, then search for Advanced Filter - beta as author have changed focus to AF-Beta. You also need to update library that you need to use for this add on to the latest version. That did solve my problem with the original AF that do not work in Elsweyr.
Both version can be found in Minion if you search there.
Only remove old version AND its Saved Variables (you should get a pop up asking for remove that when you use Minion and uninstall from Minion). Do also remove the old library: LibFilters - 2.0 and replace it with version 3.0.
https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info2215-AdvancedFilters-UpdatedoldNameBETA.html
New version of library: https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info2343-LibFilters-3.0.html
//RexyCatEdited by RexyCat on May 27, 2019 10:29AM0 -
ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »no i am not trying to say that either. the reason why is there are uniquely named set items that would be excluded from that method
Sorry, but the OP seemed to be talking around what you were trying to day.
Regardless, it would still work as I suggested before. Zos just changes the names of uniquely named items to fit the nomenclature. It is the way it should be, should have been all along.
NO it wasnt talking around anything. It said PRECISELY what i meant it to say.0 -
Thoragaal✭✭✭✭✭OrphanHelgen wrote: »I don't think rely on addons are a good thing in the first place, and then zos be like "It's not our fault it's the addon we have nothing to do about it".
Exactly.
And addons is at fault a lot of times. It decreases performance, most of the time it's not noticable, but when there are hundreds of different addons it all stacks up and does make a difference.
Addons should be avoided unless there is no other alternative.Edited by Thoragaal on May 27, 2019 12:00PMThe road to hell is paved with good intentions.
"I've always wanted to kick a duck up the arse" -Karl Pilkington, on the question what he'd do if it was the last day on earth.3 -
Browiseth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭OrphanHelgen wrote: »I don't think rely on addons are a good thing in the first place, and then zos be like "It's not our fault it's the addon we have nothing to do about it".
Addons should be avoided unless there is no other alternative.
i can do whatever i want lmao. nobody "should" or "shouldn't" do anything when the potential for customising the game experience is there.
it's my game, and i can tailor it to however i prefer with the options available to me.
skingrad when zoscharacters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
- EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
- EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
- EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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Thoragaal✭✭✭✭✭OrphanHelgen wrote: »I don't think rely on addons are a good thing in the first place, and then zos be like "It's not our fault it's the addon we have nothing to do about it".
Addons should be avoided unless there is no other alternative.
i can do whatever i want lmao. nobody "should" or "shouldn't" do anything when the potential for customising the game experience is there.
it's my game, and i can tailor it to however i prefer with the options available to me.
I'm glad you realize you're free to do whatever you want
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
"I've always wanted to kick a duck up the arse" -Karl Pilkington, on the question what he'd do if it was the last day on earth.1 -
Browiseth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭OrphanHelgen wrote: »I don't think rely on addons are a good thing in the first place, and then zos be like "It's not our fault it's the addon we have nothing to do about it".
Addons should be avoided unless there is no other alternative.
i can do whatever i want lmao. nobody "should" or "shouldn't" do anything when the potential for customising the game experience is there.
it's my game, and i can tailor it to however i prefer with the options available to me.
I'm glad you realize you're free to do whatever you want
you are aware i was responding to your statement that "addons should be avoided unless there is no other alternative", right?skingrad when zoscharacters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
- EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
- EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
- EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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barney2525✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭There really should be some way for you to sort your inventory and then lock it in place.
It just makes sense to let the player decide where everything is located
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »no i am not trying to say that either. the reason why is there are uniquely named set items that would be excluded from that method
Sorry, but the OP seemed to be talking around what you were trying to day.
Regardless, it would still work as I suggested before. Zos just changes the names of uniquely named items to fit the nomenclature. It is the way it should be, should have been all along.
NO it wasnt talking around anything. It said PRECISELY what i meant it to say.
Just like you precisely spoke to the point that is a fabulous solution for Zos to follow up on including the uniquely named item you failed to mention in the OP.
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Thoragaal✭✭✭✭✭OrphanHelgen wrote: »I don't think rely on addons are a good thing in the first place, and then zos be like "It's not our fault it's the addon we have nothing to do about it".
Addons should be avoided unless there is no other alternative.
i can do whatever i want lmao. nobody "should" or "shouldn't" do anything when the potential for customising the game experience is there.
it's my game, and i can tailor it to however i prefer with the options available to me.
I'm glad you realize you're free to do whatever you want
you are aware i was responding to your statement that "addons should be avoided unless there is no other alternative", right?
I'm well aware of it. You're aware that my opinion on the matter still holds true?
"You shouldn't drink chlorine" is also true, but you're free to disagree and drink as much chlorine as you like.
Customizing the game experience through addons comes at a player experience cost in terms of performance; for some people it can be a lot, for some it's less (often depending on computer specs). The more optimal solution would be that ZOS implement those customizations options, so that everyone can experience the same customization options without a drop in performance and the responsability is put on the developer and not the individual player.The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
"I've always wanted to kick a duck up the arse" -Karl Pilkington, on the question what he'd do if it was the last day on earth.0 -
ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭OFF TOPICryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »no i am not trying to say that either. the reason why is there are uniquely named set items that would be excluded from that method
Sorry, but the OP seemed to be talking around what you were trying to day.
Regardless, it would still work as I suggested before. Zos just changes the names of uniquely named items to fit the nomenclature. It is the way it should be, should have been all along.
Feel free to stop responding anytime. I have no obligations to you.0 -
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