MagickaNB's of Battlegrounds, what are you running right now?

Whyn Aurum · May 2019

I'm curios, since magnb got nerfed in the current patch.
Wanted to see if there are any hardcore magicka nightblades that manage to figure something out for BGs despite the nerfs.

This is my current setup:

Destro+restro+5l+1m+1h

2pc valkyn
5pc amber plasm
5pc torugs pact

thief mundus for more crit

Running currently on 48% crit rate constant and nearly 2300 spell damage on pot, 30k magicka, 15k stamina, 24k hp on tristat.
highelf

Blobsky · May 2019

I'm confused... Magnb got buffed not nerfed...It loses a good chunk of damage, but gains a reasonable amount of survivability

(I have 2x Grand Overlord MagNB)

HEBREWHAMMERRR · May 2019

Blobsky wrote: »

I'm confused... Magnb got buffed not nerfed...It loses a good chunk of damage, but gains a reasonable amount of survivability

(I have 2x Grand Overlord MagNB)

Hey blobs, didn’t know you were still around.

Piggybacking off this, magnb did not get nerfed, brawler builds are arguably in one of the best spots they’ve ever been in. I’ve been saying this throughout pts during the outcry, the damage hurts a tad but the survivability and mititgation given allows us to focus much less on self healing and more on our damage which lets us build for more damage.

I probably won’t be adjusting my build much and run something along the lines of btb + necro / spinners and skoria or pirate skele / bloodspawn for defensive monster sets.

Whyn Aurum · May 2019

Blobsky wrote: »

I'm confused... Magnb got buffed not nerfed...It loses a good chunk of damage, but gains a reasonable amount of survivability

(I have 2x Grand Overlord MagNB)

well not everyone is grand overlord so obviously you know the class best

Blobsky · May 2019

Whyn Aurum wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

I'm confused... Magnb got buffed not nerfed...It loses a good chunk of damage, but gains a reasonable amount of survivability

(I have 2x Grand Overlord MagNB)

well not everyone is grand overlord so obviously you know the class best

So I run a very different build to most... But in terms of helping your decision:

- You have lost 8% damage unless slimecraw is used (unadvised)
- Your mitigation is up 15% though image is your only minor maim source (unless wizard riposte, but image is great)
- Fear is far more useful
- You no longer have movement speed buff from cripple so may wish to use one
- Either Phantasmal (New blur morph) or The psijic speed buff are very useful additions.
- Ele drain is no longer a sustain source as debilitate is brilliant BUT that obviously costs 5k pen (around 10% damage)

In summary, build for more damage and a bit less sustain / mitigation as you will need a burst heal less often (especially if in close range with merciless), to replace lost damage

Whyn Aurum · May 2019

Blobsky wrote: »

Whyn Aurum wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

I'm confused... Magnb got buffed not nerfed...It loses a good chunk of damage, but gains a reasonable amount of survivability

(I have 2x Grand Overlord MagNB)

well not everyone is grand overlord so obviously you know the class best

So I run a very different build to most... But in terms of helping your decision:

- You have lost 8% damage unless slimecraw is used (unadvised)
- Your mitigation is up 15% though image is your only minor maim source (unless wizard riposte, but image is great)
- Fear is far more useful
- You no longer have movement speed buff from cripple so may wish to use one
- Either Phantasmal (New blur morph) or The psijic speed buff are very useful additions.
- Ele drain is no longer a sustain source as debilitate is brilliant BUT that obviously costs 5k pen (around 10% damage)

In summary, build for more damage and a bit less sustain / mitigation as you will need a burst heal less often (especially if in close range with merciless), to replace lost damage

How about item sets?

I am looking into crafy aliq, swift and pirate as monster

HEBREWHAMMERRR · May 2019

Whyn Aurum wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Whyn Aurum wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

I'm confused... Magnb got buffed not nerfed...It loses a good chunk of damage, but gains a reasonable amount of survivability

(I have 2x Grand Overlord MagNB)

well not everyone is grand overlord so obviously you know the class best

So I run a very different build to most... But in terms of helping your decision:

- You have lost 8% damage unless slimecraw is used (unadvised)
- Your mitigation is up 15% though image is your only minor maim source (unless wizard riposte, but image is great)
- Fear is far more useful
- You no longer have movement speed buff from cripple so may wish to use one
- Either Phantasmal (New blur morph) or The psijic speed buff are very useful additions.
- Ele drain is no longer a sustain source as debilitate is brilliant BUT that obviously costs 5k pen (around 10% damage)

In summary, build for more damage and a bit less sustain / mitigation as you will need a burst heal less often (especially if in close range with merciless), to replace lost damage

How about item sets?

I am looking into crafy aliq, swift and pirate as monster

Better off running shadow image + necro unless you’re trying to free up a bar slot by not using shadow image, then alfiq would be s good set.

Blobsky · May 2019

The "typical" choices are spinner, necro, spell strat, shackle, brightthroat (and possibly wizards now but I doubt that). Of those I believe spinner frontbar and perfected blackrose resto backbar are comfortably best. I dont use a typical set for my second but I'll keep that one to myself.

R.e. monster set, pirate is great, bloodspawn is good, skoria can be good etc, many options tbh. BUT if you are duo or similar numbers other than solo, not using the set that gives a huge resource return on heals is an absolute crime (can't remember the name but it is overpowered as ***)

Iskiab · May 2019

Golden question is what’s your playstyle? Lots of different ways you can spec:
- healer
- damage healer
- ranged
- skirmisher
- melee
- brawler

Great thing about magblade is you can spec lots of different ways.

daemonor · June 2019

Not a high mmr player here but I finally found some success in bgs running

2 nerienth (only running it for cosmetics, would replace it with zaan/skoria)
5 heavy torugs
5 jewelery/backbar resto lich
master ice staff frontbar with frost dmg enchant
apprentice mundus,tristat big piece/magicka rest/spell dmg jewels
vampire

blockade/clench/swallow soul ( the dmg morph)/merciless/magelight soul harvest
cloack/fear/healing ward/siphoning attacks/flex spot (piercing mark usually, cripple or entropy sometimes) soul siphon

stamdammered · June 2019

This what I have settled on for now and really like using:

5/pc Necro
5/pc Btb
2/pc pirate skelly
Drink: Double Bloody Mara

Pretty much everything into mag, gives 40k max mag and 2.2kish mag recovery in BGs. With RAT/invisibility/shade and I can almost completely avoid using stam so don’t really care that it’s super low. For a time I’ve struggled with finishing kills, that last 15-20% without an execute was just brutal. I’ve found that this has helped push me over that limit and people have started falling easier.

brandonv516 · June 2019

stamdammered wrote: »

This what I have settled on for now and really like using:

5/pc Necro
5/pc Btb
2/pc pirate skelly
Drink: Double Bloody Mara

Pretty much everything into mag, gives 40k max mag and 2.2kish mag recovery in BGs. With RAT/invisibility/shade and I can almost completely avoid using stam so don’t really care that it’s super low. For a time I’ve struggled with finishing kills, that last 15-20% without an execute was just brutal. I’ve found that this has helped push me over that limit and people have started falling easier.

Very similar to what I run:

5 pc Torugs
5 pc Btb
2 pc Pirate Skeleton
Drink: Spring-loaded fusion

I don't slot Impale though because I run an Oblivion damage enchant, which makes it easier to finish an opponent with low HP.

Iskiab · June 2019

This is what I run, performs well.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=131568

It’s a hybrid damage and healing type build, primarily healer. I’m thinking troll king might be better, IDK.