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I was awoken at 1:00 AM to good news. Let us BOW to the RAWL'KHA HEROES!!
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zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I feel bad for all the Rawl guilds affected. Their admins work hard for their communities so this must have been incredibly stressful and disappointing heading into the expansion.
There's too much salt here. Both by those happy to see Rawl guilds suffer because they have absolutely no idea how the player economy actually works and those actually responsible.8 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭This isn’t a middle finger to the establishment or whatever they think it is. It’s a hugely d*ck move to almost 2500 people who are in those guilds. And to all the people who buy from them."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
Bring Back Pure Class Build Power12 -
Chadak✭✭✭✭✭VanyelMohr wrote: »Right. You have people playing this game that don't have access to the DLCs or expansions. So, with such a shifting around of all the guilds, these players will not be able to find a guild trader that they can easily and consistently get to.
Some guilds have 500 people. Not everyone reads the MOTD. People miss a week or two then come back and have to figure out where their guild is at now. Mass confusion ensues.
Horrible idea.
This whole economy is a horrible idea, yet still we persist with it.
Monopolies of all the worthwhile vendors need to be broken up periodically. This is a game, not real life.1 -
tonemd✭✭✭✭I don't feel bad for ANY trader guilds, but why not put actual items up for sale during the take over instead of 50K obsidian?
I'm not interested in your guild wars2 -
Agenericname✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Your room mate woke you up at 1:00 am over this and you think the solution has something to do with the ingame economy? I think you may be focusing on the wrong problem.Edited by Agenericname on May 20, 2019 8:05PM6 -
Jayman1000✭✭✭✭✭
✭WuffyCerulei wrote: »This isn’t a middle finger to the establishment or whatever they think it is. It’s a hugely d*ck move to almost 2500 people who are in those guilds. And to all the people who buy from them.
Im a proud and active member of two of those Ralwkha guilds. Of course in game Im pissed about it, but whoever did this is following the rules of the game (assumingly. I dont hope it's funded with illegit/exploited gold or similar). Im not really angry about it, not irl. It's part of the game rules, this occurrence just reinforces what there is at stake for guilds with having traders, it does makes the whole experience more interesting. What would we do without a little challenge? Bore ourselves to death probably. So no change to the guild traders please.
Edited by Jayman1000 on May 20, 2019 10:15PM2 -
xeNNNNN✭✭✭✭✭
✭ESO_Nightingale wrote: »
and its counter-part stamden isn't even a class anymore its an ability called "subterranean assault".Ah, e-communities - the "pinnacle" of the internet............yeah, right.0 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
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Sure it worked. If you mean by worked common items are at vendor prices and rare items are monopolized. Other MMO forums have all kinds of threads about one exploit or another with the auction system and some particular item.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."0 -
daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
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Sure it worked. If you mean by worked common items are at vendor prices and rare items are monopolized. Other MMO forums have all kinds of threads about one exploit or another with the auction system and some particular item.
Forbid resale of items bought in the AH. A game doesn't have to reflect real life. If speculation harms the game, code it out of the game. Guild traders solve nothing, especially when listings are de facto global via add-ons such as TTC or MM.1 -
Jayman1000✭✭✭✭✭
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Sure it worked. If you mean by worked common items are at vendor prices and rare items are monopolized. Other MMO forums have all kinds of threads about one exploit or another with the auction system and some particular item.
Forbid resale of items bought in the AH. A game doesn't have to reflect real life. If speculation harms the game, code it out of the game. Guild traders solve nothing, especially when listings are de facto global via add-ons such as TTC or MM.
What a great idea to forbid items for resale. But why stop there? why not impose maximum prices so that every honest communist citizen can benefit equally for his/her labor skills? Or limits on how many specific items of each type can be allowed to be bought. Surely no one needs more than 12 golden platings per week, or a maximum of 200 drinks per week too, no one needs to drink more than that, if you buy more than that you're just capitalist pig exploiting honest laborers. So these should be the maximum allowed to be bought, only what each citizen actually need should be allowed. Im sure that together we can come up with even more wonderful restrictions for our new communist utopian eso experience.Edited by Jayman1000 on May 20, 2019 11:25PM3 -
daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Jayman1000 wrote: »
Sure it worked. If you mean by worked common items are at vendor prices and rare items are monopolized. Other MMO forums have all kinds of threads about one exploit or another with the auction system and some particular item.
Forbid resale of items bought in the AH. A game doesn't have to reflect real life. If speculation harms the game, code it out of the game. Guild traders solve nothing, especially when listings are de facto global via add-ons such as TTC or MM.
What a great idea to forbid items for resale. But why stop there? why not impose maximum prices so that every honest communist citizen can benefit equally for his/her labor skills? Or limits on how many specific items of each type can be allowed to be bought. Surely no one needs more than 12 golden platings per week, or a maximum of 200 drinks per week too, no one needs to drink more than that, if you buy more than that you're just capitalist pig exploiting honest laborers. So these should be the maximum allowed to be bought, only what each citizen actually need should be allowed. Im sure that together we can come up with even more wonderful restrictions for our new communist utopian eso experience.
I made a suggestion (forbid resale in the context of a global ah) to address an actual issue (price gouging).
You spewed a bunch of nonsense.
This isn't how discussions work.1 -
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Trade pvp is always interesting. This guy basically 1vX'd 5 guilds XD@Solar_Breeze
NA ~ Izanerys: Dracarys (Videos | Dracast)
EU ~ Izanagi: Banana Squad (AOE Rats/ Zerg Squad / Roleplay Circle)3 -
Respect4Elders✭✭✭✭✭You guys are missing the point of this post.
Ok, I'll ask...
How is Angry Joe doing?0 -
efster✭✭✭✭✭I'm less concerned about the Rawl stunt and more concerned about ZOS forum mods being super selective about which threads and comments about (and related to) this issue get nuked.
AD is the best looking faction. I don't make the rules, I just enforce them.0 -
zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I hope ZOS takes a peak at where this player got their gold from. I understand there are hundreds if not thousands of dirty stinking rich players with enough gold to have done this, but it would be due diligence to see if there was an RMT/botting dimension.
I think it's disgusting that so many are opening celebrating this. I guess when you dumb your game down, it fills up with idiots.
From the players who raged about getting killed in Cyrodiil: Trader salt!!Edited by zyk on May 21, 2019 5:29AM2 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't feel bad for ANY trader guilds, but why not put actual items up for sale during the take over instead of 50K obsidian?
I'm not interested in your guild wars
I mean they did. Just wasn't the items we wanted.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
- Guild-lead for MV
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✭Or ZOS should just make a place where everyone can sell what they want to sell without having to attempt to outbid guilds who bid hundreds of thousands just to maintain a guild trader each week. Everyone should be able to sell every day and all the time.1 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I hope ZOS takes a peak at where this player got their gold from. I understand there are hundreds of not thousands of dirty stinking rich players with enough gold to have done this, but it would be due diligence to see if there was an RMT/botting dimension.
I think it's disgusting that so many are opening celebrating this. I guess when you dumb your game down, it fills up with idiots.
From the players who raged about getting killed in Cyrodiil: Trader salt!!
. Lol like you and me? If they planned a whole year to do this I think that's easy enough. Or sold crowns lol. Someone was buying crowns the other day 1500 for 150k gold.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
- Guild-lead for MV
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Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I hope ZOS takes a peak at where this player got their gold from. I understand there are hundreds of not thousands of dirty stinking rich players with enough gold to have done this, but it would be due diligence to see if there was an RMT/botting dimension.
I think it's disgusting that so many are opening celebrating this. I guess when you dumb your game down, it fills up with idiots.
From the players who raged about getting killed in Cyrodiil: Trader salt!!
Especially the ones that can't understand when they're looking in a mirror, right?Edited by Kadoin on May 21, 2019 1:33AM0 -
zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I hope ZOS takes a peak at where this player got their gold from. I understand there are hundreds of not thousands of dirty stinking rich players with enough gold to have done this, but it would be due diligence to see if there was an RMT/botting dimension.
I think it's disgusting that so many are opening celebrating this. I guess when you dumb your game down, it fills up with idiots.
From the players who raged about getting killed in Cyrodiil: Trader salt!!
Especially the ones that can't understand when they're looking in a mirror, right?
No argument here. I play ESO, after all. Well, log in most days. But at least I'm not such an idiot to be so deluded by baffling trader salt to believe in ridiculous Rawl conspiracy theories.
The first few weeks of an expansion are the most fun for ESO traders. This dude griefed 5 very well-run guilds with admins who extremely hard to maintain the best communities in the game.
ESO has a trading game, just like it has PVE and PVP games. To its players, it is just as important. This guy is a MAJOR bumhole for taking this away from them and every single one of you celebrating would hate them if they did that to the part of the game you enjoy the most for the first week of a new expansion.Edited by zyk on May 21, 2019 2:02AM0 -
Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭WuffyCerulei wrote: »This isn’t a middle finger to the establishment or whatever they think it is. It’s a hugely d*ck move to almost 2500 people who are in those guilds. And to all the people who buy from them.
Yes, it is a tragedy of Shakespearean proportions, not being able to sell pixels in a game.
A little perspective, people....1 -
Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭The first few weeks of an expansion are the most fun for ESO traders. This dude griefed 5 very well-run guilds with admins who extremely hard to maintain the best communities in the game.
He griefed them by outbidding them? I thought that was how it all worked. Place bids, highest bid wins trader, yes?2 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If anyone ever wakes me at 1am for vide game BS it’s not gonna be a good night for him.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche4 -
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✭✭I feel bad for all the Rawl guilds affected. Their admins work hard for their communities so this must have been incredibly stressful and disappointing heading into the expansion.
There's too much salt here. Both by those happy to see Rawl guilds suffer because they have absolutely no idea how the player economy actually works and those actually responsible.
They adapted and I guess moved toe Rimmen instead. In the new chapter. So they might make more gold that way this week so this statement by this person might not hold water at all now that basically those guilds he tried to keep down are back in business.PC NA
Please add Fangs to Vampires.1 -
Jayman1000✭✭✭✭✭
✭Jayman1000 wrote: »
Sure it worked. If you mean by worked common items are at vendor prices and rare items are monopolized. Other MMO forums have all kinds of threads about one exploit or another with the auction system and some particular item.
Forbid resale of items bought in the AH. A game doesn't have to reflect real life. If speculation harms the game, code it out of the game. Guild traders solve nothing, especially when listings are de facto global via add-ons such as TTC or MM.
What a great idea to forbid items for resale. But why stop there? why not impose maximum prices so that every honest communist citizen can benefit equally for his/her labor skills? Or limits on how many specific items of each type can be allowed to be bought. Surely no one needs more than 12 golden platings per week, or a maximum of 200 drinks per week too, no one needs to drink more than that, if you buy more than that you're just capitalist pig exploiting honest laborers. So these should be the maximum allowed to be bought, only what each citizen actually need should be allowed. Im sure that together we can come up with even more wonderful restrictions for our new communist utopian eso experience.
I made a suggestion (forbid resale in the context of a global ah) to address an actual issue (price gouging).
You spewed a bunch of nonsense.
This isn't how discussions work.
No, what happened is I showed you how restrictive your suggestion was, and how much it resembled oppressive regulations in a communist controlled economy. You just responded saying nonsense with no further explanation or argumentation, which would have been the way discussion could work.1
