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What skill points to put into crafting (not going to craft)
Puxo1105
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I have some skill points over, and wonder where I should put them for most effect?
I have already in provisioning, enchanting and alchemy cause reasons.
So thats, tailoring, woodworking and metalworking left.
Hierlings? Just pure rank for "higher dailys", Extraction for "better loot"
Im a magicka healer, 5 light, 1/1 med/heavy, full purple gear so goal is to upgrade them to yellow rarity, but until then.
I was planning to go for research first, but I know, I will not put that time into it for max out crafting etc.
I have already in provisioning, enchanting and alchemy cause reasons.
So thats, tailoring, woodworking and metalworking left.
Hierlings? Just pure rank for "higher dailys", Extraction for "better loot"
Im a magicka healer, 5 light, 1/1 med/heavy, full purple gear so goal is to upgrade them to yellow rarity, but until then.
I was planning to go for research first, but I know, I will not put that time into it for max out crafting etc.
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Puxo1105✭
So if im not going to craft, im not going to lose on much to not take extraction and improvment?
So I can feel safe 0 -
AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭My noncrafters have 1 point of keen eye in jewelry, wood, clothing and alchemy to help gather mats.
Eventually, they also get full points in extraction so they grind out better mats from decon.
Sounds like you already have points in alchemy and provisioning to improve the time on your potions/food.PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo2 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Research is useful if you want to transmute things. I'd focus on Jewelry crafting in that case and weapon traits for Blacksmithing and Woodworking first, since those are the most important things you'll want to transmute.
Extraction is good only if you want to decon or refine. Keen Eye is good only if you want to farm mats. The upgrade passives are good only if you want to upgrade gear.0 -
Puxo1105✭VaranisArano wrote: »Research is useful if you want to transmute things. I'd focus on Jewelry crafting in that case and weapon traits for Blacksmithing and Woodworking first, since those are the most important things you'll want to transmute.
Extraction is good only if you want to decon or refine. Keen Eye is good only if you want to farm mats. The upgrade passives are good only if you want to upgrade gear.
But I would only need that particular trait that I want to transmute too right? And reserch 1 item in each slot is no problem
I think I will go with:
Hireling -> Item Improvment -> Extraction then (no reason to upgrade the base level of blacksmith/woodworking/jewelcrafting (if im not going to craft anything)
How does reward from daily crafting work? I mean, nice to do them for rewards^^0 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
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So if im not going to craft, im not going to lose on much to not take extraction and improvment? So I can feel safe
I only use those passives so I can improve gear without swapping to crafter. You can deffinatly live without them0 -
Runefang✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Research is useful if you want to transmute things. I'd focus on Jewelry crafting in that case and weapon traits for Blacksmithing and Woodworking first, since those are the most important things you'll want to transmute.
Extraction is good only if you want to decon or refine. Keen Eye is good only if you want to farm mats. The upgrade passives are good only if you want to upgrade gear.
But I would only need that particular trait that I want to transmute too right? And reserch 1 item in each slot is no problem
I think I will go with:
Hireling -> Item Improvment -> Extraction then (no reason to upgrade the base level of blacksmith/woodworking/jewelcrafting (if im not going to craft anything)
How does reward from daily crafting work? I mean, nice to do them for rewards^^
At this point you might as well be a crafter lol
To max your daily crafting rewards you need to max out the crafting skill line so you can make CP 160 items. This gives you a roughly 1 in 3 chance each day to get a gold temper. I get 3-4 of each temper doing dailies on 10 toons a day.
To max out the chance to get master writs you need to:
Learn as many gold & purple recipes as possible (provisioning)
Learn all the aspect, potency and essence runes (enchanting)
Learn all the alchemy ingredient items (alchemy)
Learn all the traits and complete as many motif collections as possible (clothing, blacksmithing, jewelry and woodworking)2 -
Killerkier123Soul ShrivenThere are benefits to taking the skills that allow you to crafting using higher level gear, the resource nodes that spawn will either spawn raw material of your character level or the level at which you are able to craft with. so if you are max level (cp160) and can craft with the best material you will only see the highest grade material spawn0 -
twev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭AcadianPaladin wrote: »My noncrafters have 1 point of keen eye in jewelry, wood, clothing and alchemy to help gather mats.
Eventually, they also get full points in extraction so they grind out better mats from decon.
Sounds like you already have points in alchemy and provisioning to improve the time on your potions/food.
Extraction for me, as well.
I never thought that hirelings were worth the points since harvesting nodes is so simple, and extraction helps my 'toons wring more stuff out of every last item they crush for mats.The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Research is useful if you want to transmute things. I'd focus on Jewelry crafting in that case and weapon traits for Blacksmithing and Woodworking first, since those are the most important things you'll want to transmute.
Extraction is good only if you want to decon or refine. Keen Eye is good only if you want to farm mats. The upgrade passives are good only if you want to upgrade gear.
But I would only need that particular trait that I want to transmute too right? And reserch 1 item in each slot is no problem
Yes, generally you can get all the traits you need done pretty quickly, i.e. sharpened, infused, nirnhoned. Jewelry is more of a pain since you can only research either a necklace or a ring at one time and it has more traits that can only be acquired from transmutation, but again you can prioritize traits based on what you use. If you don't play content where a niche synergy build is useful, then the harmony trait can be ignored, for example.Edited by VaranisArano on May 20, 2019 12:33AM0 -
Carl-lan✭✭✭✭If it were me I think I’d do extraction. I always find myself with some items is rather decon than sell, so it’d make it easier. Hirelings if you have some leftover.0 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If you don't max out the skill level, I wouldn't bother with hireling. All you will get is iron. But I would invest in temper, or whatever the one is for reducing mats needed to upgrade an item.1 -
Puxo1105✭If you don't max out the skill level, I wouldn't bother with hireling. All you will get is iron. But I would invest in temper, or whatever the one is for reducing mats needed to upgrade an item.
So hirelings will get resource that my rank on the crafting is on?
Then hirelings is kinda waste ya before max the skill level.
If so, I prob will go improvment -> extraction -> max out 1 skill + hireling -> max out next skill + hireling
So crafting dailys are kinda waste to do if Im not max in the skill then? No chance to get the upgrade materiel if im not @max?0 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If you don't max out the skill level, I wouldn't bother with hireling. All you will get is iron. But I would invest in temper, or whatever the one is for reducing mats needed to upgrade an item.
So hirelings will get resource that my rank on the crafting is on? Then hirelings is kinda waste ya before max the skill level.
If so, I prob will go improvment -> extraction -> max out 1 skill + hireling -> max out next skill + hireling
So crafting dailys are kinda waste to do if Im not max in the skill then? No chance to get the upgrade materiel if im not @max?
If not at max skill you won't get any writs, but you will still get surveys which are useful. Also if not at max skill, you can still get tempers from the hirelings, but at a much lower rate.0 -
Puxo1105✭If you don't max out the skill level, I wouldn't bother with hireling. All you will get is iron. But I would invest in temper, or whatever the one is for reducing mats needed to upgrade an item.
So hirelings will get resource that my rank on the crafting is on? Then hirelings is kinda waste ya before max the skill level.
If so, I prob will go improvment -> extraction -> max out 1 skill + hireling -> max out next skill + hireling
So crafting dailys are kinda waste to do if Im not max in the skill then? No chance to get the upgrade materiel if im not @max?
If not at max skill you won't get any writs, but you will still get surveys which are useful. Also if not at max skill, you can still get tempers from the hirelings, but at a much lower rate.
Never done any master writs before, but looking on it right now, only housing items etc?
If so...why would I bother... I dont care about my house
True true, surveys are nice. Its so hard to choose....0 -
Runefang✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If you don't max out the skill level, I wouldn't bother with hireling. All you will get is iron. But I would invest in temper, or whatever the one is for reducing mats needed to upgrade an item.
So hirelings will get resource that my rank on the crafting is on? Then hirelings is kinda waste ya before max the skill level.
If so, I prob will go improvment -> extraction -> max out 1 skill + hireling -> max out next skill + hireling
So crafting dailys are kinda waste to do if Im not max in the skill then? No chance to get the upgrade materiel if im not @max?
If not at max skill you won't get any writs, but you will still get surveys which are useful. Also if not at max skill, you can still get tempers from the hirelings, but at a much lower rate.
Never done any master writs before, but looking on it right now, only housing items etc?
If so...why would I bother... I dont care about my house
True true, surveys are nice. Its so hard to choose....
Master writs are just another good source of income from dailies, even if you don't want to do them for the vouchers yourself. Just sell them on a trader.1 -
Puxo1105✭I ended up going with full alchemy, enchanting, provisioning.
then clothing -> max out all but keen eye and research. Extraction and Expertise in both woodworking, blacksmith and jewelcraft.
Now rest of my skill points will go to upgrade woodworking + hireling, when its maxed I will go blacksmith max + hireling
After that I will just put into rest into crafting to get all maxed.
Thanks for help all!
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