Its time for craft bag to be available without Eso plus.

tmbrinks · May 2019

Jeirno wrote: »

I'm Cp1050 and have played the game for 3 years now and NEVER, let me repeat NEVER have felt the need for a craft bag.

I don't have eso+, i don't have craft bag and I don't feel the need for it. I can fit all my _IMPORTANT_ crafting mats in the bank easily, useless stuff I sell most of the time. Keep craft bag for ESO+ its good for people who hoard useless stuff or cba with 2mins of inventory management per day.

I do writs on 30 characters a day. On one account, I went without the craft bag for a while, to test it out. I determined that I spent an average of 8 HOURS a month doing just inventory management stuff (transferring things from bank to characters, porting to house to use the coffers, pulling things out of said coffers to sell in trade guilds).

To spend $12 a month (I just bought the entire year sub) to save 8 hours of time... Yeah, my time isn't worth $1.50 an hour. I happily subscribed.

EDIT: Just to be clear, that was 8 hours of time spent doing things that were automatically done by having the craft bag.

Taleof2Cities · May 2019

Darkenarlol wrote: »

just sub allready and stop crying

Here’s another insightful ...

deadsheepb14_ESO · May 2019

Jeirno wrote: »

Keep craft bag for ESO+ its good for people who hoard useless stuff or cba with 2mins of inventory management per day.

Well that and double housing and bank slots. \o/ Honestly I think it's worth it because you get the same amount of crowns if you bought them from the store alone, but you also get all the other stuff too. https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/guides/esoplusguide Plus I just like supporting the game.

Donny_Vito · May 2019

deadsheepb14_ESO wrote: »

Jeirno wrote: »

Keep craft bag for ESO+ its good for people who hoard useless stuff or cba with 2mins of inventory management per day.

Well that and double housing and bank slots. \o/ Honestly I think it's worth it because you get the same amount of crowns if you bought them from the store alone, but you also get all the other stuff too. https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/guides/esoplusguide Plus I just like supporting the game.

Yeah, it all sorta works out. Obviously for the customer it's as if we are basically getting our money back with the allotted crowns given out every month, the free items in the crown store, and the discounted items as well. For ZoS, these crowns are just a "gateway drug" for us in hopes we'll see something we like (that's potentially more crowns than what the monthly allotted amount is) and we'll buy it. I've fell victim a few times, but I try to tell myself I buy ESO+ for the craft bag, DLCs, and to support the game just a little. With that in mind, the $15 (or whatever it is now) is very reasonable.

Edit: Typo

Jeirno · May 2019

tmbrinks wrote: »

Jeirno wrote: »

I'm Cp1050 and have played the game for 3 years now and NEVER, let me repeat NEVER have felt the need for a craft bag.

I don't have eso+, i don't have craft bag and I don't feel the need for it. I can fit all my _IMPORTANT_ crafting mats in the bank easily, useless stuff I sell most of the time. Keep craft bag for ESO+ its good for people who hoard useless stuff or cba with 2mins of inventory management per day.

I do writs on 30 characters a day. On one account, I went without the craft bag for a while, to test it out. I determined that I spent an average of 8 HOURS a month doing just inventory management stuff (transferring things from bank to characters, porting to house to use the coffers, pulling things out of said coffers to sell in trade guilds).

To spend $12 a month (I just bought the entire year sub) to save 8 hours of time... Yeah, my time isn't worth $1.50 an hour. I happily subscribed.

EDIT: Just to be clear, that was 8 hours of time spent doing things that were automatically done by having the craft bag.

How i go about my inventory management is bit different. I have maxed out home storage which I use only for sets. Each character has their crucial gear in their bags. My bank is only used for crafting mats. What saves me a lot of space is that I don't do enchanting at all since I found it very useless in the game.

I do writs on 8 chars a day. And from the rewards I sell/decon the weapons and armor/jewel pieces I get. I sell all trait mats(Defending etc.) apart from jewelry ones, since when have you ever needed more than 1 stack of of those useless stones unless you craft people 200 defending trait staffs everyday. I sell all crafting mats that are CP10-cp140 since I have never actually used those since I hit cp160 a long time ago. I also sell all mats are lvl16-50 since, well I don't use those either, IF I do however need them for lets say training gear, i just buy small amount and sell the rest. No big deal.

Now style materials, I don't even BOTHER to loot the ones that are very rare ones. I just keep all the common 9 races ones, since I don't care what trait I craft my gear in since we have the outfit system. If I do master writs i just buy what I need.

Provisioning mats, same thing. Only 1 stack per material, since quite frankly most of them are completely useless. You can do all the BiS max CP foods or level scaled foods with around 15 different mats anyways(THAT is not all 3 variations of tri stat food or all variations of MAX health, MAX stam. JUST 1 variation of those).

Alchemy reagents fit in bank easily, I don't have 20k Alkahest like most people, I sell most of them and just keep 1 stack on me, Lorkhan Tears. 2stacks on me. IF I need to level up alchemy for some toon i just buy the lower level things.

If i had eso+ i would save like 5 minutes a day in total with all chars while doing writs. But I don't really care small time spent per day after doing writs for a clean inventory is easy for me.

Sanctuary_Reaper · May 2019

Yeah, how about no, if you want it sub.

Jeirno · May 2019

deadsheepb14_ESO wrote: »

Jeirno wrote: »

Keep craft bag for ESO+ its good for people who hoard useless stuff or cba with 2mins of inventory management per day.

Well that and double housing and bank slots. \o/ Honestly I think it's worth it because you get the same amount of crowns if you bought them from the store alone, but you also get all the other stuff too. https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/guides/esoplusguide Plus I just like supporting the game.

Ye well, I don't do housing, only use my Villa for a 2 dummies and home storage. Don't need the bank space either since I don't hoard useless sets/stuff. I just don't feel its worth for me personally :P

EDIT: Never bought crowns myself. I bought all the DLCs with gold.

tmbrinks · May 2019

Jeirno wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Jeirno wrote: »

I'm Cp1050 and have played the game for 3 years now and NEVER, let me repeat NEVER have felt the need for a craft bag.

I don't have eso+, i don't have craft bag and I don't feel the need for it. I can fit all my _IMPORTANT_ crafting mats in the bank easily, useless stuff I sell most of the time. Keep craft bag for ESO+ its good for people who hoard useless stuff or cba with 2mins of inventory management per day.

I do writs on 30 characters a day. On one account, I went without the craft bag for a while, to test it out. I determined that I spent an average of 8 HOURS a month doing just inventory management stuff (transferring things from bank to characters, porting to house to use the coffers, pulling things out of said coffers to sell in trade guilds).

To spend $12 a month (I just bought the entire year sub) to save 8 hours of time... Yeah, my time isn't worth $1.50 an hour. I happily subscribed.

EDIT: Just to be clear, that was 8 hours of time spent doing things that were automatically done by having the craft bag.

How i go about my inventory management is bit different. I have maxed out home storage which I use only for sets. Each character has their crucial gear in their bags. My bank is only used for crafting mats. What saves me a lot of space is that I don't do enchanting at all since I found it very useless in the game.

I do writs on 8 chars a day. And from the rewards I sell/decon the weapons and armor/jewel pieces I get. I sell all trait mats(Defending etc.) apart from jewelry ones, since when have you ever needed more than 1 stack of of those useless stones unless you craft people 200 defending trait staffs everyday. I sell all crafting mats that are CP10-cp140 since I have never actually used those since I hit cp160 a long time ago. I also sell all mats are lvl16-50 since, well I don't use those either, IF I do however need them for lets say training gear, i just buy small amount and sell the rest. No big deal.

Now style materials, I don't even BOTHER to loot the ones that are very rare ones. I just keep all the common 9 races ones, since I don't care what trait I craft my gear in since we have the outfit system. If I do master writs i just buy what I need.

Provisioning mats, same thing. Only 1 stack per material, since quite frankly most of them are completely useless. You can do all the BiS max CP foods or level scaled foods with around 15 different mats anyways(THAT is not all 3 variations of tri stat food or all variations of MAX health, MAX stam. JUST 1 variation of those).

Alchemy reagents fit in bank easily, I don't have 20k Alkahest like most people, I sell most of them and just keep 1 stack on me, Lorkhan Tears. 2stacks on me. IF I need to level up alchemy for some toon i just buy the lower level things.

If i had eso+ i would save like 5 minutes a day in total with all chars while doing writs. But I don't really care small time spent per day after doing writs for a clean inventory is easy for me.

I fully understand that it's plausible. Are you also factoring in the time that you're taking to pick and choose which thing to pick up in each drop? The time you spend to buy the master writ materials that you need. I can barely get into a guild store, purchase something, and get in my mail in the 5 minutes that you describe as it saving you. Having all of those materials in my craft bag saves me (at least for myself, way, way more than 5 minutes a day)

I'm not saying your method doesn't work, but at least for me, I feel like it would be way more than 5 minutes for all the inventory management that you're saying you do.

NatalyaPeterovna · May 2019

Shadowasrial wrote: »

My suggestion is this. Give eso plus members unlimited bank space. If you can create a void like server space for everyone’s unlimited crafting items then you should be able to create one for the bank. Further more i would allow eso plus members to have the ability to SAVE BUILDS. Create a build and save it to a fixed template. Allowing eso plus members to quickly switch builds for different situations. Allow us to save builds for gear and for champion points. Allowing us to rapidly change from day a PVP SETUP TO A PVE SETUP AT THE CLICK OF A BUTTON. ( so long as you are at the bank of course or using your personal banker. This would allow players with eso plus to save even more sets and builds without the hassle of having to remember the setups and save time for trials,dungeons etc. also allowing the non eso plus members the ability to finall store materials and thus give them a bit more wiggle room for gaming without having to throw away their hard work

That would be nice
But if we’ve learned anything from capitalism why not make each of those features separate monthly subscriptions!!!!! 😃
Wouldn’t that be amazing
And instead of having craftbag free make that monthly crown token purchases...per character for even more money
Just gives you that warm fuzzy feeling of corporate greed

How bout this- be glad that it’s even a feature because there were the dark days when it didn’t exist and you had to manage every single bank slot strategically
So be glad it’s there stop whining for free stuff like an over entitled brat when there are people putting actual work into this game that need some way to get paid and the most sure and steady way is the auto deduction every mont for the monthly subscription
So basically cough up the money or stop complaining and clear out and max out ur bank and get the banker and if you’re
Able to manage your inventory you’ll do fine and learn to live without

Jeirno · May 2019

@tmbrinks

Ye I get what you mean too. When I do master writs I usually do many in 1 go and the only mats i need to buy for those well are the style stones right. So not a lot of effort if lets say last time I did master writs was when home storage was released so I could buy all the boxes. And after you get used to looting with "pick and choose" tactic its very simple tbh. Armor sets, gold, rubedo scraps. You kinda just start filtering all the "useless" stuff automatically, its literally like 1-2sec loss when looting bodies or whatever to what it would be for autoloot or just take all spam.

back to the point of 5minutes, that 5minutes is when i have done Writs on char number 1 in Alinor, addons automatically opens the boxes while i walk to a merchant, I sell all the stuff i don't need. I walk to bank and bank all the important mats. Log off to next char so each char its like 45sec extra effort. So the 5mins has nothing to do with the guildstore and getting mail althou i have to mention that for me guildstores and mail work really fast personally.

theyancey · May 2019

This crap again? The answer has been NO! in every previous thread and is still NO! now.

tmbrinks · May 2019

@Jeirno

Yup, and I think what we're both saying proves the point that the craft bag does not need to be base game. Your method clearly works for you to be able to do all that crafting without the use of it. With them giving us the storage boxes in the houses, it certainly makes it viable. That's what is great about it, we have the choice!

Jeirno · May 2019

tmbrinks wrote: »

@Jeirno

Yup, and I think what we're both saying proves the point that the craft bag does not need to be base game. Your method clearly works for you to be able to do all that crafting without the use of it. With them giving us the storage boxes in the houses, it certainly makes it viable. That's what is great about it, we have the choice!

Yes, Totally agree with you on that one!

TheInfernalRage · May 2019

Shadowasrial wrote: »

NOW BEFORE EVERYONE SCREAMS NO PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ MY SUGGESTION FOR A REPLACEMENT.

So we are 5 years in the game. There are tons of crafting materials that if you were to even just want 1 of each you wouldn’t be able to store it in your bank or inventory if you wanted to. This causes players to have to sell these materials some of which are hard to find. Not to mention if you start to amass a large amount of sets then you may be forced to destroy some something that shouldn’t be an issue in the game. I mean realistically if you have 8 characters if you were to have even just one replacement set for each of them it would take over 100 slots of inventory space or bank space and non eso plus members are already at half the max storage space.

Now before you say well then just buy the subscription this is starting to affect even eso plus members. Having all these sets for every occasion takes almost all of my eso plus bank space at max upgrade.

My suggestion is this. Give eso plus members unlimited bank space. If you can create a void like server space for everyone’s unlimited crafting items then you should be able to create one for the bank. Further more i would allow eso plus members to have the ability to SAVE BUILDS. Create a build and save it to a fixed template. Allowing eso plus members to quickly switch builds for different situations. Allow us to save builds for gear and for champion points. Allowing us to rapidly change from day a PVP SETUP TO A PVE SETUP AT THE CLICK OF A BUTTON. ( so long as you are at the bank of course or using your personal banker. This would allow players with eso plus to save even more sets and builds without the hassle of having to remember the setups and save time for trials,dungeons etc. also allowing the non eso plus members the ability to finall store materials and thus give them a bit more wiggle room for gaming without having to throw away their hard work

JUST SUB.

JamieAubrey · May 2019

Didn't read your argument

NOPE

Its a benefit of being subbed

Defilted · May 2019

No thank you. I like having ESO+

Runkorko · May 2019

sudaki_eso wrote: »

Non eso+ subscriber can get the storage boxes to get more space, i believe they are the same for everyone and not affected by eso+, so just by getting them you can increase your storage by 360 spaces. Each character can hold up to 200 items. So with 8 chars + the storage boxes you can have 1960 storage spaces...I think this is fine for someone who doesnt subscribe - not that i am against having unlimited bank space, just saying that most people havent even maxed out their storage but wanting more spaces...

Please....
House storage is not accesed from crafting tables.
New dlcs come/ new sets/ new crafting materials/ XXXX amount of new crafting motifs mats.
Its normal if they lift/increase bank/inventory space. Atleast double.
Or make house chests accesable from bank/crafting station. Even if this mean adding a new "special" ones. Reasonable price ofc.
ViP model must be a player choise, but is like you are foced to subscribe.

Runkorko · May 2019

Luede wrote: »

no reason to have eso+ without the bag, so let me guess what happend

do this is the reason they NEVER incrase storage limit ?

Nestor wrote: »

If you want the Craft Bag, subscribe to the game

dude you sound like pub bully. Who give you that administrator status ?

majulook · May 2019

I am all for this getting Craft Bag as part of base game ONLY if the game goes to subscription only.

Runkorko · May 2019

majulook wrote: »

I am all for this getting Craft Bag as part of base game ONLY if the game goes to subscription only.

You make no sense

We was subbed for like 2 years without crafting bag.
Do vip makes you feel special ? You think vip spend more real money from b2p ones ?
Crafting bag must be for everyone. Like atleast 500 slots.
For ViPs it can be endless.
Do you even know how diferent motifs wehave in zos ?
Like 60. With 240 bank space.
Now tell me how much reagens we have for provisioning? Yea right .....
Wont mention alchemy.
Its a silly way to force players to sub.

jircris11 · May 2019

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

I am all for this getting Craft Bag as part of base game ONLY if the game goes to subscription only.

You make no sense
We was subbed for like 2 years without crafting bag.
Do vip makes you feel special ? You think vip spend more real money from b2p ones ?
Crafting bag must be for everyone. Like atleast 500 slots.
For ViPs it can be endless.
Do you even know how diferent motifs wehave in zos ?
Like 60. With 240 bank space.
Now tell me how much reagens we have for provisioning? Yea right .....
Wont mention alchemy.
Its a silly way to force players to sub.

Not a force it's an incentive, want the bag then sub. Its 15 a month and you are practically just buying 15 in crowns and getting the rest as a bonus. Buy a month sub every so often to move stuff to the bag. My friend does this once ever 3 months.

Taleof2Cities · May 2019

Remember they’re adding three (3) character slots when Elsweyr drops, @runkorkoeb17_ESO ... so that’s another 600 inventory slots for you.

But, yeah, you need ESO+ to get the craft bag perks.

Runkorko · May 2019

jircris11 wrote: »

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

I am all for this getting Craft Bag as part of base game ONLY if the game goes to subscription only.

You make no sense
We was subbed for like 2 years without crafting bag.
Do vip makes you feel special ? You think vip spend more real money from b2p ones ?
Crafting bag must be for everyone. Like atleast 500 slots.
For ViPs it can be endless.
Do you even know how diferent motifs wehave in zos ?
Like 60. With 240 bank space.
Now tell me how much reagens we have for provisioning? Yea right .....
Wont mention alchemy.
Its a silly way to force players to sub.

Not a force it's an incentive, want the bag then sub.

Im. In 2 other games, where sub means something.
There i have all dlc and all chapters. 8 max lvl characters with maxed profesion.
What sub will give me? A bag? Sure.
We dont want your bag. We want increased bank/inv space.
And you are not the one who decide, anyway.
So we want more space, what do you want ?

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Remember they’re adding three (3) character slots when Elsweyr drops, @runkorkoeb17_ESO ... so that’s another 600 inventory slots for you.

But, yeah, you need ESO+ to get the craft bag perks.

The space is fine even now. The way you acces it is not.

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

If not, then be like that guy and take 2-5mins for inventory management.

Nice joke

deadsheepb14_ESO · May 2019

If you read the whole thread you will see there is a gentleman who has had no problems at all without a craft bag. So if you want the convenience, then sub. If not, then be like that guy and take 2-5mins for inventory management.

barney2525 · May 2019

Shadowasrial wrote: »

NOW BEFORE EVERYONE SCREAMS NO PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ MY SUGGESTION FOR A REPLACEMENT.

So we are 5 years in the game. There are tons of crafting materials that if you were to even just want 1 of each you wouldn’t be able to store it in your bank or inventory if you wanted to. This causes players to have to sell these materials some of which are hard to find. Not to mention if you start to amass a large amount of sets then you may be forced to destroy some something that shouldn’t be an issue in the game. I mean realistically if you have 8 characters if you were to have even just one replacement set for each of them it would take over 100 slots of inventory space or bank space and non eso plus members are already at half the max storage space.

Now before you say well then just buy the subscription this is starting to affect even eso plus members. Having all these sets for every occasion takes almost all of my eso plus bank space at max upgrade.

My suggestion is this. Give eso plus members unlimited bank space. If you can create a void like server space for everyone’s unlimited crafting items then you should be able to create one for the bank. Further more i would allow eso plus members to have the ability to SAVE BUILDS. Create a build and save it to a fixed template. Allowing eso plus members to quickly switch builds for different situations. Allow us to save builds for gear and for champion points. Allowing us to rapidly change from day a PVP SETUP TO A PVE SETUP AT THE CLICK OF A BUTTON. ( so long as you are at the bank of course or using your personal banker. This would allow players with eso plus to save even more sets and builds without the hassle of having to remember the setups and save time for trials,dungeons etc. also allowing the non eso plus members the ability to finall store materials and thus give them a bit more wiggle room for gaming without having to throw away their hard work

Ummm. that's "over 100 slots " DIVIDED by Eight. Every character you will spend at least a Little gold exteneding the bag space. 70 is free at level 7. 80 is 2000 gold. 90 is 5900 gold. Couple days doing writs every character is at 90.

Then there's the daily horsey. Add space that way, over time you added 60 slots.

A set has a Maximum of 13 pieces. You telling me each character can't handle having 13 pieces take up some of the inventory?

It's amazing. The same people who say "it's not worth it to buy a subscription " are the ones who want to take one aspect of the subscription and make it Free. If it is important enough of an issue for you to get on Forums and write about it, it is therefore valuable enough for you to buy the subscription.

sudaki_eso · May 2019

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

sudaki_eso wrote: »

Non eso+ subscriber can get the storage boxes to get more space, i believe they are the same for everyone and not affected by eso+, so just by getting them you can increase your storage by 360 spaces. Each character can hold up to 200 items. So with 8 chars + the storage boxes you can have 1960 storage spaces...I think this is fine for someone who doesnt subscribe - not that i am against having unlimited bank space, just saying that most people havent even maxed out their storage but wanting more spaces...

Please....
House storage is not accesed from crafting tables.
New dlcs come/ new sets/ new crafting materials/ XXXX amount of new crafting motifs mats.
Its normal if they lift/increase bank/inventory space. Atleast double.
Or make house chests accesable from bank/crafting station. Even if this mean adding a new "special" ones. Reasonable price ofc.
ViP model must be a player choise, but is like you are foced to subscribe.

Thanks....
House storage is not accesed from crafting tables. -> So? This is about storage, you need something go grab it from your storage boxes, not as convenient as the crafting bag but thats exactly the point of the bag... Or keep the mats you need for doing writs in your inventory.

New dlcs come/ new sets/ new crafting materials/ XXXX amount of new crafting motifs mats. Its normal if they lift/increase bank/inventory space. Atleast double. -> Again, thats the point of subscribing, double spaces

All i want to say is that there are lots of options for OP to store his stuff, it might be not as convenient as the bag and the double space you get from eso+ but its working.

Runkorko · May 2019

sudaki_eso wrote: »

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

sudaki_eso wrote: »

Non eso+ subscriber can get the storage boxes to get more space, i believe they are the same for everyone and not affected by eso+, so just by getting them you can increase your storage by 360 spaces. Each character can hold up to 200 items. So with 8 chars + the storage boxes you can have 1960 storage spaces...I think this is fine for someone who doesnt subscribe - not that i am against having unlimited bank space, just saying that most people havent even maxed out their storage but wanting more spaces...

Please....
House storage is not accesed from crafting tables.
New dlcs come/ new sets/ new crafting materials/ XXXX amount of new crafting motifs mats.
Its normal if they lift/increase bank/inventory space. Atleast double.
Or make house chests accesable from bank/crafting station. Even if this mean adding a new "special" ones. Reasonable price ofc.
ViP model must be a player choise, but is like you are foced to subscribe.

Thanks....
House storage is not accesed from crafting tables. -> So? This is about storage, you need something go grab it from your storage boxes, not as convenient as the crafting bag but thats exactly the point of the bag... Or keep the mats you need for doing writs in your inventory.

New dlcs come/ new sets/ new crafting materials/ XXXX amount of new crafting motifs mats. Its normal if they lift/increase bank/inventory space. Atleast double. -> Again, thats the point of subscribing, double spaces

All i want to say is that there are lots of options for OP to store his stuff, it might be not as convenient as the bag and the double space you get from eso+ but its working.

Is not about the space. Is about the accesebility
Yep is working. Take 2/3 of your gametime to sort things after every daily writ quest you do

Work as intended ....

Skwor · May 2019

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

If not, then be like that guy and take 2-5mins for inventory management.

sudaki_eso wrote: »

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

sudaki_eso wrote: »

Non eso+ subscriber can get the storage boxes to get more space, i believe they are the same for everyone and not affected by eso+, so just by getting them you can increase your storage by 360 spaces. Each character can hold up to 200 items. So with 8 chars + the storage boxes you can have 1960 storage spaces...I think this is fine for someone who doesnt subscribe - not that i am against having unlimited bank space, just saying that most people havent even maxed out their storage but wanting more spaces...

Please....
House storage is not accesed from crafting tables.
New dlcs come/ new sets/ new crafting materials/ XXXX amount of new crafting motifs mats.
Its normal if they lift/increase bank/inventory space. Atleast double.
Or make house chests accesable from bank/crafting station. Even if this mean adding a new "special" ones. Reasonable price ofc.
ViP model must be a player choise, but is like you are foced to subscribe.

Thanks....
House storage is not accesed from crafting tables. -> So? This is about storage, you need something go grab it from your storage boxes, not as convenient as the crafting bag but thats exactly the point of the bag... Or keep the mats you need for doing writs in your inventory.

New dlcs come/ new sets/ new crafting materials/ XXXX amount of new crafting motifs mats. Its normal if they lift/increase bank/inventory space. Atleast double. -> Again, thats the point of subscribing, double spaces

All i want to say is that there are lots of options for OP to store his stuff, it might be not as convenient as the bag and the double space you get from eso+ but its working.

Is not about the space. Is about the accesebility
Yep is working. Take 2/3 of your gametime to sort things afterevery daily writ quest you do
Work as intended ....

You are hiding intent. It is about niether space or accessability from your posts. It is about convienence.

You want conveinance, pay for the sub. Problem solved.

Conveinances are luxuries and as a luxury you should be expected to pay for it.

Mayrael · May 2019

No eventhough I have unsubbed lately I still don't think it should be avaible outside of ESO+.

tmbrinks · May 2019

majulook wrote: »

I am all for this getting Craft Bag as part of base game ONLY if the game goes to subscription only.

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

If not, then be like that guy and take 2-5mins for inventory management.

sudaki_eso wrote: »

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

sudaki_eso wrote: »

Non eso+ subscriber can get the storage boxes to get more space, i believe they are the same for everyone and not affected by eso+, so just by getting them you can increase your storage by 360 spaces. Each character can hold up to 200 items. So with 8 chars + the storage boxes you can have 1960 storage spaces...I think this is fine for someone who doesnt subscribe - not that i am against having unlimited bank space, just saying that most people havent even maxed out their storage but wanting more spaces...

Please....
House storage is not accesed from crafting tables.
New dlcs come/ new sets/ new crafting materials/ XXXX amount of new crafting motifs mats.
Its normal if they lift/increase bank/inventory space. Atleast double.
Or make house chests accesable from bank/crafting station. Even if this mean adding a new "special" ones. Reasonable price ofc.
ViP model must be a player choise, but is like you are foced to subscribe.

Thanks....
House storage is not accesed from crafting tables. -> So? This is about storage, you need something go grab it from your storage boxes, not as convenient as the crafting bag but thats exactly the point of the bag... Or keep the mats you need for doing writs in your inventory.

New dlcs come/ new sets/ new crafting materials/ XXXX amount of new crafting motifs mats. Its normal if they lift/increase bank/inventory space. Atleast double. -> Again, thats the point of subscribing, double spaces

All i want to say is that there are lots of options for OP to store his stuff, it might be not as convenient as the bag and the double space you get from eso+ but its working.

Is not about the space. Is about the accesebility
Yep is working. Take 2/3 of your gametime to sort things afterevery daily writ quest you do
Work as intended ....

So, do a cost analysis. Is your time with the $15 a month you pay for a sub? What is the minimum wage you'd work for? $10/hour, $15/hour. If it's $15/hour, and you spend more than 1 hour a month doing inventory maintenance, then it might make sense for you to subscribe.

Ultimately, it's your choice. you have the freedom to suggest, people have the freedom to respond. What you're doing is attacking anybody who doesn't agree with you... and that's not right.