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unnecessarynate
unnecessarynate
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With all the discussion about NBs silence and it quickly getting its nerf along with wings due to zero counter play, and rightfully so. I wanna see what people’s opinions are of the skill daedric curse and it’s morphs, and I bring this up due to the recent changes to shalks which had counter play but was recently nerfed to be blockable yet unlike shalks daedric curse has zero counter play since it is neither blockable or dodgeable. Thoughts?
  • Kikke
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    Purge. If you cant prepare for it in 6sec, get in removed in 6sec. You're just a NB crying that curse pops you from cloak.
    Edited by Kikke on May 15, 2019 12:13AM
    Cleared Trials:
    - vAA HM - vHRC HM - vSO HM - vMoL HM - vHoF HM - vAS HM - vCR HM -

    "The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, and a lot of bitching."
    -Someone said it, I guess.
  • StormeReigns
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    Kikke wrote: »
    Purge. If you cant prepare for it in 6sec, get in removed in 6sec. You're just a NB crying that curse pops you from cloak.

    Purge and the Curse Eater set is why I love Inevitable Detonation on my Magsorc, as well soon to be Magcro :D I never get denied my kaBooms :D
    Edited by StormeReigns on May 15, 2019 12:29AM
  • Gilvoth
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    Kikke wrote: »
    Purge. If you cant prepare for it in 6sec, get in removed in 6sec. You're just a NB crying that curse pops you from cloak.

    as soon as we purge it you re-aply curse to us immediately
    we purge - you re-aply
    we purge - you re-aply
    we purge - you re-aply

    as myself having mostly stamina and not that much magicka we loose that battle really fast and die.
  • Siohwenoeht
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    Gilvoth wrote: »
    Kikke wrote: »
    Purge. If you cant prepare for it in 6sec, get in removed in 6sec. You're just a NB crying that curse pops you from cloak.

    as soon as we purge it you re-aply curse to us immediately
    we purge - you re-aply
    we purge - you re-aply
    we purge - you re-aply

    as myself having mostly stamina and not that much magicka we loose that battle really fast and die.

    Tell you what, if they make snipe a 2 sec cast, that pulls the caster from stealth, not only keeps the audio warning, but also displays an notification to the player after 0.5sec so they have ample time to block, then I could be on board with curse changes.

    Honestly, sorcs have had so much change to how they line up burst and most of their skills are telegraphed. I'm not a great pvper by any stretch, but I'm not dying to sorcs all that often. (Caveat is I only play cyro and ic, never have stepped foot in a battleground.)
    "It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time saying anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to." - Treebeard
  • unnecessarynate
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    Kikke wrote: »
    Purge. If you cant prepare for it in 6sec, get in removed in 6sec. You're just a NB crying that curse pops you from cloak.

    Lmao great assumption but I main a DK and I can admit when a skill of mine is broken, with that being said I totally have access to a cost efficient purge. Any great sorc knows the class is an easy play style, get good bud lmao smh.
  • unnecessarynate
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    Kikke wrote: »
    Purge. If you cant prepare for it in 6sec, get in removed in 6sec. You're just a NB crying that curse pops you from cloak.

    Let me ask you a question, how many pets you run? Lol or are they not broken?
  • Kikke
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    unnecessarynate wrote: »
    Kikke wrote: »
    Purge. If you cant prepare for it in 6sec, get in removed in 6sec. You're just a NB crying that curse pops you from cloak.

    Let me ask you a question, how many pets you run? Lol or are they not broken?

    0. . . And yes, pets are broken. Currently their healing is not capped by battle spirits, shields are not capped on them and their dmg is abit high currently. But. shield bug got fixed, healing bug is getting fixed. and dmg is getting nerfed abit = the multiplier from curse getting reduced.
    Edited by Kikke on May 15, 2019 1:51AM
    Cleared Trials:
    - vAA HM - vHRC HM - vSO HM - vMoL HM - vHoF HM - vAS HM - vCR HM -

    "The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, and a lot of bitching."
    -Someone said it, I guess.
  • Aurielle
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    There’s a difference between some counterplay and no counterplay. Purge is your (admittedly expensive) counterplay to Curse. The first iteration of incap with silence had no counterplay for any mag class beyond dodge roll and block.

    If it makes you feel any better, most magicka players will be just about out of stam the first time they break free of incap (much like most stam players would be out of mag after a purge or two). As someone who also plays a NB from time to time, I personally would have preferred something different, but it looks like ZOS is going ahead with this bizarre change. :/
  • Kikke
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    unnecessarynate wrote: »
    Kikke wrote: »
    Purge. If you cant prepare for it in 6sec, get in removed in 6sec. You're just a NB crying that curse pops you from cloak.

    Lmao great assumption but I main a DK and I can admit when a skill of mine is broken, with that being said I totally have access to a cost efficient purge. Any great sorc knows the class is an easy play style, get good bud lmao smh.

    So, you are a DK. Not a NB. Pop wings and reduce the rest of our burst with 50% and toss a vigor. (assuming you are stam)
    Cleared Trials:
    - vAA HM - vHRC HM - vSO HM - vMoL HM - vHoF HM - vAS HM - vCR HM -

    "The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, and a lot of bitching."
    -Someone said it, I guess.
  • Mr_Walker
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    unnecessarynate wrote: »
    With all the discussion about NBs silence and it quickly getting its nerf along with wings due to zero counter play, and rightfully so. I wanna see what people’s opinions are of the skill daedric curse and it’s morphs, and I bring this up due to the recent changes to shalks which had counter play but was recently nerfed to be blockable yet unlike shalks daedric curse has zero counter play since it is neither blockable or dodgeable. Thoughts?

    With wings, you could, uh, not use a bow?
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