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I have a question about master writs.

CMDR_Un1k0rn
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What are the criteria for these to drop?

Do you simply have to be level 50 in the respective crafting skill, or do you also have to be able to craft CP160 items as well? So that is to say, do you have to have the skill points invested?

Or is it just a case of being level 50 in the tree?
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  • VaranisArano
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    You have to be doing the max rank daily writs, creating CP 150 gear.

    That gets you a lowish drop rate. You can increase the drop rate for Master Writs by learning more motif styles, researching more traits, learnibg recipes, and learning the traits of enchanting runes and alchemy reagents.

    My master crafter who knows most of the current motifs gets noticeably more master writs for blacksmithing, clothing and woodworking than my other crafters who are doing the same level of writs but know much less motifs.
  • msalvia
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    Exactly what Varanis said
  • CMDR_Un1k0rn
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    Excellent. Thank you for the insight guys. Very much appreciated, as always.
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  • tmbrinks
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    Just to add.

    You must be doing max level writs for a chance at a master writ.

    Blacksmithing/Woodworking/Clothing drop rates are increased based on the number of full, complete purple motifs that you know. (Base drop rate seems to be around 4-5%, increasing to around 10% for all motif knowledge)

    Provisioning drop rates are increased by the number of purple and gold recipes that you know

    Enchanting drop rates are increased by the number of runes that you have "translated"

    Alchemy drop rates are increased by the number of reagents you have learned all 4 traits for

    Jewelry drop rates are increased by the number of traits you have researched in jewelry.
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  • Jayne_Doe
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    It's also worth noting that you'll see far more Master Writs if you do top-tier writs on more than one character. Sure, my main sees more MWs drop overall, but there are days when I don't get any on her, but will still get a few on alt characters.

    Of course, it takes time to get alts up to level 50 in all the crafts and the necessary skill points, but it's been worth it to me. Also, the alts don't even need to know the traits or motifs or recipes, etc. for a chance at Master Writs. Of course, it's best to have some knowledge. So, my alts know 8 traits on the gear crafts (haven't been bothered to learn 9 on them) as well as the basic blue motifs, purple motifs, and holiday motifs. They know a decent number of purple recipes and all traits for enchanting and alchemy.

    This is probably a ways off for you right now, but it's worth thinking about. Perhaps even focusing on just alchemy and enchanting, as you only need to learn all the traits for those. And, they are some of the easiest MWs to do, although they don't reward as much as gear MWs can.
  • tmbrinks
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    Jayne_Doe wrote: »
    It's also worth noting that you'll see far more Master Writs if you do top-tier writs on more than one character. Sure, my main sees more MWs drop overall, but there are days when I don't get any on her, but will still get a few on alt characters.

    Of course, it takes time to get alts up to level 50 in all the crafts and the necessary skill points, but it's been worth it to me. Also, the alts don't even need to know the traits or motifs or recipes, etc. for a chance at Master Writs. Of course, it's best to have some knowledge. So, my alts know 8 traits on the gear crafts (haven't been bothered to learn 9 on them) as well as the basic blue motifs, purple motifs, and holiday motifs. They know a decent number of purple recipes and all traits for enchanting and alchemy.

    This is probably a ways off for you right now, but it's worth thinking about. Perhaps even focusing on just alchemy and enchanting, as you only need to learn all the traits for those. And, they are some of the easiest MWs to do, although they don't reward as much as gear MWs can.

    This. I have 30 characters across 2 accounts, all of whom are doing writs. It greatly "evens" out the drops of master writs, which are quite rare on a character by character basis. I use the Alchemy and Enchanting MWs to level the new characters now.
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  • FlopsyPrince
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    This. I have 30 characters across 2 accounts, all of whom are doing writs. It greatly "evens" out the drops of master writs, which are quite rare on a character by character basis. I use the Alchemy and Enchanting MWs to level the new characters now.

    Do those give a lot of XP? How do you get high enough research on a new character, as well as styles?

    Or are you just saying you do the daily crafting writs, though that would be something different.

    I can't even do all the master writs I have on my main crafter who has researched a good bit of everything. I can't see doing them on a new character.
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  • kringled_1
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    Tmbrinks specifically said alchemy and enchanting master writs, for which there is no lengthy research process and motifs are not relevant. If you have the materials and the skill points, you can level both of these crafts quickly.
  • CellularAutomaton110
    Not sure if it is still representative, but this gives the general idea:
    https://blog.fizban.fi/2018/04/master-writ-drop-rates-2018-04/
  • tmbrinks
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    This. I have 30 characters across 2 accounts, all of whom are doing writs. It greatly "evens" out the drops of master writs, which are quite rare on a character by character basis. I use the Alchemy and Enchanting MWs to level the new characters now.

    Do those give a lot of XP? How do you get high enough research on a new character, as well as styles?

    Or are you just saying you do the daily crafting writs, though that would be something different.

    I can't even do all the master writs I have on my main crafter who has researched a good bit of everything. I can't see doing them on a new character.

    As @kringled_1 said. Only Alchemy and Enchanting MASTER WRITS, they are cheap, easy to do, and require no research, only leveling of the skill line. Alchemy you can force level by just making potions and learning traits. Enchanting takes a little longer. I just deposit all the glyphs I get from doing the enchanting writs in the bank and decon on the one that needs to level the skill. Make sure to learn the "new" glyphs as you level up the skill, as those provide a large bonus inspiration.

    They give excellent XP. During the event, along with a 150% scroll, it only takes between 5-6 to move each level. You generally have to be around level 10 before you have enough skill points to even do Alchemy, so it takes between 200-250 alchemy/enchanting writs to fully level up a character with them. With doing the daily writs on 30 characters, I get, on average, between 4-6 of these a day. I'm currently saving them up to level up my Necro when Elsweyr drops, have about 120 saved up already.

    I have 1 character, out of the 30 that can do all of the master writs. I have 2 others (on my main account) who could possibly do some, but that's only because of the event I decided to just learn some of the motifs that were dropping as they weren't worth selling, and my friends already all knew those motifs on their main crafters as well.

    For motifs, I only learn the blue racial motifs, the 4 purple "full" motifs from the base game, along with some of the very, very cheap purple motifs, such as Mercenary and Hollowjack, etc... The rest are not worth the monetary cost to learn on a regular basis.
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  • FlopsyPrince
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    I hadn't thought of doing all the different kinds of "recipes" to level up quicker. Though I still have to pump skill points in, so I am not in a rush. (I have maxed a single character on all the skill points for crafting. I am painfully gathering them for everyone else quite slowly, since I also like to play a character.)
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