Totomushen wrote: »

A dungeon finder that has not worked properly from the start cannot ruin the game.

While that may be true when in tunnel vision for a single game, anyone coming from another game may see it that way. Definitely a turn off.

Well, a few days have elapsed since the new patch dropped, and here's what I've observed during my scattered moments using the Dungeon Finder since then (granted, only a few runs because my patience for dealing with this broken system wears thin):

1) The bizarre and irritating bug of having to click upwards of 17 times on the "Join Queue" button is still an issue--it somehow got even worse in the past week. This needs to change, fast. It appears to affect people trying to queue for Battlegrounds as well. Some new players who are accustomed to things working properly based on their experiences playing other games have legitimately queried zone chat to see if DF/BGs are broken or inaccessible due to this bug; the proffered fix of "Click on it a bunch and it will eventually work" seems to be efficacious but is burdensome to the uninitiated.

2) Long queue times are still an issue. It takes my healer between five and ten minutes to get a random normal dungeon, but as soon as I try to queue for three specific dungeons to do my Undaunted daily quests, I can expect to wait at least an hour. Per dungeon. Blame it on people being in the new P2W zone or whatever, but it has always been like this so I will mention it again.

3) During those long waits, the "Queued" status from the quest log on my main screen will by turns disappear and reappear again. When it's gone, you can go to your DF screen to verify you're still in the queue. Even though it doesn't show up on the main screen, you're still definitely in the queue and will get put into groups. Not so much a deal-breaking bug as it is a nuisance visual anomaly.

4) I still get grouped with extreme lowbies as a CP680 healer, which makes running dungeons challenging from a technical standpoint, as well as making loot trading afterwards moot. Nobody can use my CP160 drops and I don't want their level 17 Bug Deflector of Smiting.

5) The insta-kick upon entering the dungeon has appeared to go away for me, for the time being. I have heard some faint rumblings from folks in zone chat who said they still had problems with it. We will need to keep an eye on this to make sure the problem has really been fixed.

6) I have experienced something weird happening with being able to get the sweet blue XP/loot bonus more than once per day. Formerly, this happened late at night when I would queue and run a dungeon; the timer appears to reset while I'm in the dungeon or something, and so I'm able to run one again and get the full bonus forthwith. But today I did my first two dungeons during the afternoon and got the blue bonii twice. It was nice from a loot perspective (even if the first reward was a charged Resto Staff of Endurance or some such garbage), but totally strange from a programmatic view. First time that has happened.

7) If someone declines an invite through DF, the game states this and claims to have put me back at the front of the queue. Yet I will then let the game sit there for eons to no avail. On occasion, if I subsequently leave the queue and requeue again, I appear to get a group almost instantly. This was a problem in past iterations of the DF, as others have pointed out, where one could queue-hop and skate to the front of the line, and it's still a problem as of today. This bug is hit-or-miss, as it doesn't always happen and the leave/rejoin strategy doesn't always work. But when it does work, I think it indicates a fundamental flaw with the code.

8) The accept or decline dialog that pops-up when you get placed into a group still remains hidden inside the notification window if you're not in mouse-look mode. I think the notification needs to be front-and-center every time, no matter where I am, what I'm looking at, or what the mouse is doing. And a 40-second timer to confirm or deny the new group needs to be increased to 60 seconds so that people can occasionally stand up and go to the fridge (or bathroom) for something without having to sprint there and back.

All ye who continue to chastise me for not manually creating my groups through the various guilds I'm in, one question: Are you the same people who excuse the recent "Jump Points" debacle as being perfectly intuitive, acceptable, and good for the game? Because if the game tells me those extra 25 points I dumped into a skill are actually doing something, albeit slowly, and yet absolutely does not... shouldn't there be some truth in advertising--can't it just work the way it's saying it's supposed to? The DF should be no different. If we accept it's useless and broken, but the feature remains in the game, this is a problem. If it gets removed and no other acceptable alternatives are put into place, then players will go without one of the key features of an MMO, and ESO takes one step closer to becoming a single-player game. People who insist we "do it the hard way" as a workaround do the community a disservice--the workarounds become like a whole new game we play.

Man OP, where were you when I needed someone to write my essays for me back in school?

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

... nerf nightblades?

Absolutely. All GF problems stem from NB's.

@Bobby_V_Rockit

Deadfinger6 wrote: »

Not read your length criticisms, but personally I've had no real issues (Xbox 1) apart from elitism

Try to q with a friend, and it will mess up every time.

There should be a minimum gear requirement for certain dungeons, like for example: The latest DLC dungeons should have a cp150 gear requirement, Epic to Legendary gear with 4 or 5 stars bonus IF you're doing Veteran-mode.

That way, everyone doing those new dungeons would be happy, or at least could be more respectful, knowing that everyone have some sort of decent gear.

FFXIV does a great job at this.
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