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Single player rewards suck
twilightwarrick
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Hi well I've commented on this before, but lately I've become more frustrated at just how lame the single mission rewards are.
Apart from the Malston and other arenas, that are very very difficult, well I'm closing in on cp 400 and haven't finished Malston yet
The gear sets and item quality are trash.
yeah look there's a ton of single player content no worries there, its just the rewards for the effort put in is c rap , even defecting a end story, boss
or a over land skull icon monster, nets you SFA.
The only way to get decent gear sets, and weapons are 90% from group content, yes sure the vet dungeons and trials are very demanding and difficult
and should have decent rewards.
but also taking down some of the world and story bosses are quite difficult for a single player, and I feel for some of these there could be better sets or perhaps even the odd monster set.
everyone reckons the game is equally balanced for all, but I don't think it is,
I've joined a couple of great guilds and yes group content is fun, but it can also be a chore trying to arrange trials, or even vet runs sometimes.
I like free roaming just going my own way, but really the stuff ive be rewarded with is a total joke, and yeah its not all about the gear, and rewards
but for gods sake a little more satisfaction for my efforts would be appreciated .
Apart from the Malston and other arenas, that are very very difficult, well I'm closing in on cp 400 and haven't finished Malston yet
The gear sets and item quality are trash.
yeah look there's a ton of single player content no worries there, its just the rewards for the effort put in is c rap , even defecting a end story, boss
or a over land skull icon monster, nets you SFA.
The only way to get decent gear sets, and weapons are 90% from group content, yes sure the vet dungeons and trials are very demanding and difficult
and should have decent rewards.
but also taking down some of the world and story bosses are quite difficult for a single player, and I feel for some of these there could be better sets or perhaps even the odd monster set.
everyone reckons the game is equally balanced for all, but I don't think it is,
I've joined a couple of great guilds and yes group content is fun, but it can also be a chore trying to arrange trials, or even vet runs sometimes.
I like free roaming just going my own way, but really the stuff ive be rewarded with is a total joke, and yeah its not all about the gear, and rewards
but for gods sake a little more satisfaction for my efforts would be appreciated .
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Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There's literally tons of wonderful overworld sets.
War Maidens, Spriggan, 7th Legion, Bright Throat Boast ....far too many to list here.
And Maelstrom weapons are pretty much staple for PvE builds. Just a bow alone can net you an extra 2k dps.
My answer to this post is....huh?Edited by Kel on May 11, 2019 1:51AM9 -
Siohwenoeht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭In addition to a bunch of overland, I can think of at least a half dozen craftable sets that are still quite good... Harder content should equal better rewards."It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time saying anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to." - Treebeard3 -
Runkorko✭✭✭✭✭
✭Plenty of BiS sets are accesable from crafting or from openworld drop.
Check there - https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Sets
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Gundug✭✭✭✭✭While set choices are important in getting the most out of a build, far more important is having a good build to begin with, and understanding how to use it. As others have mentioned, there are plenty of effective easy to get sets in the game.
People like to believe that getting the best rated gear will transform them from struggling to dominating, but it will not. Take a look at one of the high end parsers comparing what they call best in slot with lesser quality gear. It’s not a 10k DPS difference. It might be as little as 1k DPS. Even running the so-called “garbage” sets will work well enough to get through overland and normal difficulty content.
If you are having difficulty, look into current solo builds for your class on youtube or elsewhere. For any solo build, always keep in mind that you need to have a good balance of everything that gets the job done: resource sustain, damage mitigation, self-healing, damage output. Take a good look at the skills that are recommended, and learn how they are used. This will make a huge difference in how difficult it is to clear any content.4 -
david_m_18b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Actualy Id say this game have the best single players reward out of all mmo.6
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MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Roaming any overland with exception of Malabal, Bangkorai, Deshaan, Rivenspire, Wrothgar is pointless from reward point and reward is completely random. So soloing DLC World Boss gives you same reward as any chest. So yeah, OP you are right, overland is pointless other then for quests and skyshard gathering.0 -
Ildun✭✭✭✭For me the sets I want but cannot get are monster sets, other than that I'm satisfied with overland and craft set.
Now I'm enjoying using Mad Tinkerer, it's range seems like limitless, the only thing I dislike is the machine is so ugly
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Runkorko✭✭✭✭✭
✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Roaming any overland with exception of Malabal, Bangkorai, Deshaan, Rivenspire, Wrothgar is pointless from reward point and reward is completely random. So soloing DLC World Boss gives you same reward as any chest. So yeah, OP you are right, overland is pointless other then for quests and skyshard gathering.
False.
Roaming? What do you mean ?
You dont need to ROAM.
Hunt treasure chests/ treasu maps or camp dolmens.
Or just do WB.
Spoiled generation....
And nope, bosses dont give same rewards as chests or dolmens.
Diferent set pieces come from diferent sources.Edited by Runkorko on May 11, 2019 2:40AM4 -
N00BxV1✭✭✭✭✭
✭runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Roaming any overland with exception of Malabal, Bangkorai, Deshaan, Rivenspire, Wrothgar is pointless from reward point and reward is completely random. So soloing DLC World Boss gives you same reward as any chest. So yeah, OP you are right, overland is pointless other then for quests and skyshard gathering.
False.
Roaming? What do you mean ?
You dont need to ROAM.
Hunt treasure chests/ treasu maps or camp dolmens.
Or just do WB.
Spoiled generation....
And nope, bosses dont give same rewards as chests or dolmens.
Diferent set pieces come from diferent sources.
Delves: Feet, Waist
Dolmens: Jewelry
Pub Dungeons: Hand, Shoulder, Weapon
World Boss: Chest, Head, Legs, Weapon
Treasure Chest: ALL
Why waste time farming the other activities if chests can give the same rewards. Also the only thing different that a WB can drop that you can't get from chests is named/unique items.
I'll just stick with farming chests because it's easier for the same random rewards.Edited by N00BxV1 on May 11, 2019 3:09AM0 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi well I've commented on this before, but lately I've become more frustrated at just how lame the single mission rewards are.
Apart from the Malston and other arenas, that are very very difficult, well I'm closing in on cp 400 and haven't finished Malston yet
The gear sets and item quality are trash.
yeah look there's a ton of single player content no worries there, its just the rewards for the effort put in is c rap , even defecting a end story, boss
or a over land skull icon monster, nets you SFA.
The only way to get decent gear sets, and weapons are 90% from group content, yes sure the vet dungeons and trials are very demanding and difficult
and should have decent rewards.
but also taking down some of the world and story bosses are quite difficult for a single player, and I feel for some of these there could be better sets or perhaps even the odd monster set.
everyone reckons the game is equally balanced for all, but I don't think it is,
I've joined a couple of great guilds and yes group content is fun, but it can also be a chore trying to arrange trials, or even vet runs sometimes.
I like free roaming just going my own way, but really the stuff ive be rewarded with is a total joke, and yeah its not all about the gear, and rewards
but for gods sake a little more satisfaction for my efforts would be appreciated .
What kind of gear are you looking for? Because there is plenty of "decent" gear you can get from crafting and single player content. They don't suck.
Edited by Jeremy on May 11, 2019 3:09AM0 -
Runkorko✭✭✭✭✭
✭runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Roaming any overland with exception of Malabal, Bangkorai, Deshaan, Rivenspire, Wrothgar is pointless from reward point and reward is completely random. So soloing DLC World Boss gives you same reward as any chest. So yeah, OP you are right, overland is pointless other then for quests and skyshard gathering.
False.
Roaming? What do you mean ?
You dont need to ROAM.
Hunt treasure chests/ treasu maps or camp dolmens.
Or just do WB.
Spoiled generation....
And nope, bosses dont give same rewards as chests or dolmens.
Diferent set pieces come from diferent sources.
Delves: Feet, Waist
Dolmens: Jewelry
Pub Dungeons: Hand, Shoulder, Weapon
World Boss: Chest, Head, Legs, Weapon
Treasure Chest: ALL
Why waste time farming the other activities if chests can give the same rewards. Also the only thing different that a WB can drop that you can't get from chests is named/unique items.
I'll just stick with farming chests because it's easier for the same random rewards.
because mostly you need jewelry, which dont drop from bosses.
chest are nice to farm ONLY if you have treasure hunter perk- not all ppl have it.
dolmens are nice to farm because jewelry have higher price on the market.
and chest cant give all-only treasure map chests can contain all.
and if you think farming gear is a waste of time then i`l sugest you to change the game.
gearing soppose to be fun. waste of time ? where you rush for?
Edited by Runkorko on May 11, 2019 3:28AM1 -
N00BxV1✭✭✭✭✭
✭runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Roaming any overland with exception of Malabal, Bangkorai, Deshaan, Rivenspire, Wrothgar is pointless from reward point and reward is completely random. So soloing DLC World Boss gives you same reward as any chest. So yeah, OP you are right, overland is pointless other then for quests and skyshard gathering.
False.
Roaming? What do you mean ?
You dont need to ROAM.
Hunt treasure chests/ treasu maps or camp dolmens.
Or just do WB.
Spoiled generation....
And nope, bosses dont give same rewards as chests or dolmens.
Diferent set pieces come from diferent sources.
Delves: Feet, Waist
Dolmens: Jewelry
Pub Dungeons: Hand, Shoulder, Weapon
World Boss: Chest, Head, Legs, Weapon
Treasure Chest: ALL
Why waste time farming the other activities if chests can give the same rewards. Also the only thing different that a WB can drop that you can't get from chests is named/unique items.
I'll just stick with farming chests because it's easier for the same random rewards.
because mostly you need jewelry, which dont drop from bosses.
chest are nice to farm ONLY if you have treasure hunter perk- not all ppl have it.
dolmens are nice to farm because jewelry have higher price on the market.
and chest cant give all-only treasure map chests can contain all.
and if you think farming gear is a waste of time then i`l sugest you to change the game.
gearing soppose to be fun. waste of time ? where you rush for?
I hate to break it to you, but regular treasure chests (not maps) CAN drop any set item in the zone. I've literally farmed whole sets (weapons, armor and jewelry) just by searching regular chests.Edited by N00BxV1 on May 11, 2019 3:35AM0 -
logarifmik✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'll just add, that questing isn't rewarding at all. Most of the quest rewards are useless. Especially when it comes to the main game content. A lot of unique items NPCs give to the Vestige is junk. It would be much better if instead it'll be a unique collectible furniture, for example.EU PC: @logarifmik | Languages: Русский, English
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Runkorko✭✭✭✭✭
✭runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Roaming any overland with exception of Malabal, Bangkorai, Deshaan, Rivenspire, Wrothgar is pointless from reward point and reward is completely random. So soloing DLC World Boss gives you same reward as any chest. So yeah, OP you are right, overland is pointless other then for quests and skyshard gathering.
False.
Roaming? What do you mean ?
You dont need to ROAM.
Hunt treasure chests/ treasu maps or camp dolmens.
Or just do WB.
Spoiled generation....
And nope, bosses dont give same rewards as chests or dolmens.
Diferent set pieces come from diferent sources.
Delves: Feet, Waist
Dolmens: Jewelry
Pub Dungeons: Hand, Shoulder, Weapon
World Boss: Chest, Head, Legs, Weapon
Treasure Chest: ALL
Why waste time farming the other activities if chests can give the same rewards. Also the only thing different that a WB can drop that you can't get from chests is named/unique items.
I'll just stick with farming chests because it's easier for the same random rewards.
because mostly you need jewelry, which dont drop from bosses.
chest are nice to farm ONLY if you have treasure hunter perk- not all ppl have it.
dolmens are nice to farm because jewelry have higher price on the market.
and chest cant give all-only treasure map chests can contain all.
and if you think farming gear is a waste of time then i`l sugest you to change the game.
gearing soppose to be fun. waste of time ? where you rush for?
I hate to break it to you, but regular treasure chests (not maps) CAN drop any set item in the zone. I've literally farmed whole sets (weapons, armor and jewelry) just by searching regular chests.
``any set dont mean any piece from the set.
which is changed if you have treasure hunter perk
even then most of the juwelry you get are blue. and i guess you know how much it cost to upgrade them to epic.
why skipping dolmens when mostly farm jewelry from open world sets ?Edited by Runkorko on May 11, 2019 3:43AM0 -
Imza✭✭✭✭it's all about how you play your class...
many of the very skilled can take a lowly lvl 3 to maelstrom and complete it on the gear they get there...0 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭If you have no interest in group play, is there a reason you want to acquire BiS gear that’s meant for group content?
Not a sarcastic question
For the vast majority of overworld content, exlcuding some DLC zone WBs, everything is rather easily solo’d in just basic gearset. The entry level for stam is NMG and Hunding’s Rage, both crafted, and the next up is Spriggans to replace one of those. Even most of overland stuff can be entertaining even if it’s not BiS. As long as you get the armor weight for your general build, most will work fine for solo-only content2 -
RaptorRodeoGod✭✭✭✭✭logarifmik wrote: »I'll just add, that questing isn't rewarding at all. Most of the quest rewards are useless. Especially when it comes to the main game content. A lot of unique items NPCs give to the Vestige is junk. It would be much better if instead it'll be a unique collectible furniture, for example.
Pretty much this. I'd be more into questing if there were more useful unique rewards.Add a Scribing skill that works like Arcanist beam.
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Veteran players have been alienated and disengaged from Overland since One Tamriel, due to the lack of difficulty, and pushed into dungeons and trials; the minority of content in the Elder Scrolls Online. We can't take the repetition anymore, fix Overland engagement for Vet players. I don't even care if it's not combat related anymore, just make Overland engaging again.
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Overland difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 10 years. 6 paid expansions. 25 DLCs. 41 game changing updates including One Tamriel, an overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver & Gold as a "you think you do but you don't" - tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game. I'm bored of dungeons, I'm bored of trials; make a personal difficulty slider for overland. Make a self debuff mythic. Literally anything at this point.0 -
Mudcrabber✭✭✭✭912 CP and I'm still mostly reliant on crafted and overland sets, plus monster helms/shoulders (helms from weekend vendor). No trial or arena sets.0 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The biggest culprit here is of course, trial sets. But, since you don't really need trial sets outside of group content, not sure it's much of an issue.
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