What's the current feeling toward Elsweyr?

Neoicelord · May 2019

How goes the PTR version? Any issues? How does it stack up to Morrowind/Summerset?

Katahdin · May 2019

My view of Elsweyr will depend on what we end up with for "class balance"

So far, I'm not optimistic

Neoicelord · May 2019

Katahdin wrote: »

My view of Elsweyr will depend on what we end up with for "class balance"

So far, I'm not optimistic

as a Magika Templar, should i be worried?

Katahdin · May 2019

Neoicelord wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

My view of Elsweyr will depend on what we end up with for "class balance"

So far, I'm not optimistic

as a Magika Templar, should i be worried?

Maybe
Current pts has a change to NB incap that will shut you down for 3 seconds if it lands.
I am NB main and even I think it's kinda wrong. However the orginal pts proposed nerfs for NB go too far imo. If they come up with a reasonable middle ground, I'll feel better about it.

Neoicelord · May 2019

Katahdin wrote: »

Neoicelord wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

My view of Elsweyr will depend on what we end up with for "class balance"

So far, I'm not optimistic

as a Magika Templar, should i be worried?

Maybe
Current pts has a change to NB incap that will shut you down for 3 seconds if it lands.
I am NB main and even I think it's kinda wrong. However the orginal pts proposed nerfs for NB go too far imo. If they come up with a reasonable middle ground, I'll feel better about it.

PvP is (in every mmorpg) full of stuns and it gets annoying, so i usually stay away from it.

ryzen_gamer_gal · May 2019

40$ for a dlc? no thanks. Not wanting necromancer so it doesnt seem worth it to me. Give me warden class with it instead and i'll consider it.

Androconium · May 2019

Neoicelord wrote: »

How goes the PTR version? Any issues? How does it stack up to Morrowind/Summerset?

Morrowind and Summerset are separate chapters. Didn't you get invited to do the user testing on the PTS? Oh well.

Neither Morrowind or Summerset has really provided me with any entertainment. All my interactions with both are boring and more like a chore than a fun activity. I turned down the Elsewhere testing opportunity as they weren't offering any pay for the work.

My feeling to toward Elsewhere is that is where my money will be. Buy it if you must.

Morgul667 · May 2019

Last pts change do not make sense

Synnastix · May 2019

Not as excited as I was with Morrowind or Summerset, and the zone feels small. I think they’re banking on people being in it for the dragons.

News flash - dragons are Elsweyr’s dolmens.

JumpmanLane · May 2019

Not rolling a necro. Pre-ordered, but tonight when I get off work I'm gonna try to get a refund. I might buy it again later on when it's on sale. ZOS is just fiddling around with the classes too much.

Neoicelord · May 2019

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

40$ for a dlc? no thanks. Not wanting necromancer so it doesnt seem worth it to me. Give me warden class with it instead and i'll consider it.

i think if you pre order the collectors edition of Elsweyr, you get the CE versions of Summerset/Morrowind. Not sure if the Warden comes with it.

jonswowgothackedub17_ESO wrote: »

Not as excited as I was with Morrowind or Summerset, and the zone feels small. I think they’re banking on people being in it for the dragons.

News flash - dragons are Elsweyr’s dolmens.

i could care less for the dragons, so i am in it for the cat people.

BomblePants · May 2019

I’m excited! I usually wait a few weeks after release before I venture into the new zones though.... but yeah, wanted to go to Elsweyr for the longest time....

Facefister · May 2019

Neoicelord wrote: »

How goes the PTR version? Any issues? How does it stack up to Morrowind/Summerset?

Cheap money grab by pandering to Diablo Necro and Skyrim fanboys. It's a DLC at best nowhere worth 40 bucks.

Ertosi · May 2019

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

40$ for a dlc? no thanks. Not wanting necromancer so it doesnt seem worth it to me.

That's exactly how I've felt about it from the start.

I'm not into necros, dragons are just dolmens3.0, and it's lacking any additional features like Battlegrounds which came with Morrowind or the Psijic skill line and Jewelry Crafting brought by Summerset. No thanks, I just can't bring myself to support that kind of diminishing content.

Grandma · May 2019

as someone who is exponentially more interested in khajiit lore and elsweyr than i was for summerset or morrowind (keeping in mind i loved them both, but i'd already played TES3 and summerset didn't appeal to me as much) i'm super excited.

then it has dragons, which makes me happy.

and it has a new necromancer class, which also makes me happy.

and potentially it will introduce Alfiiq merchants, which makes me VERY happy.

so yeah, i'm very excited. people are crying about nb nerfs (and apparently overbuffing 1 skill) in pvp, but pvp is kind of a mess right now as is.

the zone, lore, aesthetic, class, enemies, and new items all interest me at least. so the feeling is good.

Unit117 · May 2019

I really don’t care for the kajhit area personally. It’s not my scene. But I am interested in dragons, necromancers and a good story. My biggest disappointment is not even one one permanent pet for the new class. A class whose whole existence is about summoning dead minions.

ArchMikem · May 2019

PTR? Public Test Race? Rascals? Ruin?

Itzmichi · May 2019

Neither found the necromancer interesting not iam a fan of the khajiit, but I like the zone and it's design and the new trial is not too bad either, but this year is definitely lacking some additional feature.

DarknDarker · May 2019

Besides a few questionable ability changes(looking at you, nb), and a few weird bugs, its looking pretty good to me,
I'm looking forward to actually exploring the place, doing quests and what not, since I've avoided doing that so far.
suppose it helps that i like both necromancers and am interested in the Khajiit and their lore.

Sylvermynx · May 2019

No use for necromancer (not just in this game, in ANY game I've ever played - SO not my thing.... Even having Serana along was so painful I finally just disabled her until I had to have her for whatever reason....) Just UGH....

Love the Khajiit, always have. Love Elsweyr. Not too concerned about nerfs, buffs, etc. - I just adapt. So yeah, the class is a total zero for me, but the rest of it is very neat and way worth the money for me (on two accounts.... and I'm thinking about a third one....)

I want the alfiq merchants, and if I have to buy the originals first, fine. WAY too cute to pass up.... I could always get away without the common versions, but nope - have to have the kittehs. As for dragons, eh, got my fill and more of them in Skyrim, so no interest. If I want dragons, well, I'm still playing Skyrim, ain't?

I will thoroughly enjoy the parts of this chapter that appeal to me. And I'll completely ignore those parts that don't appeal.

Oh, hey - ZOS devs.... could you bring back the Khajiit catsuit from Daggerfall plox?

Tasear · May 2019

It's going to be my new base for actions! I will be finally moving out of rawkla!

Nercomancer class structure is well done. Now if only they do same for others.

The free house is cute going to be my market house.

dem0n1k · May 2019

it's cool for cats.

Ratzkifal · May 2019

ArchMikem wrote: »

PTR? Public Test Race? Rascals? Ruin?

@ArchMikem Realm. Pretty sure it's realm.

russelmmendoza · May 2019

Elsweyr comes with a lot of nerfs.

Nuff said.

Lab3360 · May 2019

Im not buying it. My guild quit because of it and moved to other games.

I would be willing to bet that this will be the lowest selling of the Expansions.

I will get it when its free after the ton of nerfs it will go thru (which most of you will pay for) and all the new buzz wears off.

Taleof2Cities · May 2019

Been taking a few screenies during my Elsweyr travels on PTS ...

Jhalin · May 2019

I like that there are distinct new character models for NPCs (still hoping playable racial variants get added at some point)

The zone is mostly cacti and succulents, so imo not that great but still not unpleasant to look at

The architecture is downright beautiful, even if the color choices for furniture are tacky

Finally a new full trial, praise the sun (literally), and doubled down rewards with a skin and mount. Yes they’re basic existing effects stuck on preexisting mounts, but I can hope for more gameplay related rewards going onwards.

Main quest is under NDA but for nonspecifics, the “big twist” for this one was brought up so lackadaisically I had to wonder if I’d done something in the wrong order

Basically if you’re in it for the side characters and zone asthetics, you’ll like it. If your only interest is in how the main quest plays out, ehh, maybe you won’t have the same gripes I did.

SpiderKnight · May 2019

Honestly, the performance being shite, my ps4 crashing constantly for the past month, I am not feeling optimistic at all. I keep thinking about Summerset release and how that wayshrine lag, long ass load screens have stuck around to this very day.

Wildbloom · May 2019

H Y P E

I don't think tweaking classes so that some are a little worse and some are better will ruin an expansion that looks as cool as this one. People who are saying "balance will ruin the expac" are silly. We're all viable, lets enjoy the story and the dungeons and whatnot and dig into some dragons!

Zacuel · May 2019

I'm also waiting for some sort of sale or discount. So that makes me less excited. But I'm still gonna get it.

StormeReigns · May 2019

From what I have experienced on the PTS, more thought out then Marrowind expansion, but less involved from what Summerset has to offer. Over all it is pretty much above average as a whole. Story, pretty good, Sunspire can be pugged simply with out too many over the top mechanics. With the right group, can be easier than WStone's Vet dungeons. Mind you, a premade set group, can RP walk it easy with few, to zero issues; this was before the recent update - have yet to try it again after the update now, probably later in the afternoon tomorrow see if it is the same or more of a challenge.

The changes to the classes are hit and miss, pending on one's play style and class+build, The classes I play don't feel too different and little adjustment was made to get back into the normal rotation again. I really enjoy Magicka Necro more due to the massive amount of AoE Burst potential versus Stamina.
The recent 70 ult cost Incap. with a now 3sec Silence that is unpurgable shuts down every Magicka based build. Hope players are used to the term "Peeling" cause your gonna have to a lot of that for your healers if they get smacked with that (if it goes live) are done for. A lot of chain and leash spam here soon or teams / groups are getting a lot of dead/silent healers not healing their team, resulting in dead teams. Leading to which team can peel faster, and hoping your healer communicates some way they (if) just got hit with it.

Dragon fights are okay, fun, unique goodies each time, respectable respawn timers. Before their recent "fix" more challenging and entertaining, now, just a beefed up Loot Pinata pretending to be a WB disguised as a dragon. Still fun. Just not a real threat as before.

FInally, yes I believe it is worth it, but nothing to call home about. More could, and probably will be added to make it much more valid, but in the end, ultimately - to each their own on how they enjoy their game and if they want it or not. Take each positive and negative about it with a grain of salt, weight it for yourself and see if it is worth it for you or not.

Facefister wrote: »

Neoicelord wrote: »

How goes the PTR version? Any issues? How does it stack up to Morrowind/Summerset?

Cheap money grab by pandering to Diablo Necro and Skyrim fanboys. It's a DLC at best nowhere worth 40 bucks.

Sadly, ones who must express such terms as "fanboy" have already lost all arguments, past, present and future are fools. Thus only a fool would be the only one who believed it is a valid debate tool without offering critical thinking, logical scrutiny or thought out criticism.

Cause if this claim was accurate, the argument and blank retort would be valid as pandering if ESO necro held any resemblance to either Diablo 2/3 or Skyrim skill line other than name.