FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »
There are only two that I can think of that are more stable than ESO. That's Guild Wars 2 and Eve Online.
Hate, hate everywhere... Dont hate the changes? Hate the people that hate the changes! Dont hate the people? Hate on the forums instead! Dont hate the forums? hate the devs instead! You do nothing else than any of the other plebs on this forums. You spread hate.
strom arena, nerf event drops, nerf transmutation drops, nerf race against time, nerf draining shot, nerf nightblade, nerf sorc, nerf dragonknight, nerf major evasion, nerf sub assault, nerf wings, nerf ravager, nerf blocking, nerf dodge rolling, nerf cloak, nerf mist form, nerf enchants, nerf spin to win, nerf argonians, nerf orcs, nerf snipe, nerf master's staff, nerf healing, nerf solar flare, nerf necromancer, nerf dot ticks, nerf crafting...did I miss anything? These forums are filled with whiny entitled players who don't want challenging game play they want to beat everybody and all content with the least amount of skill possible. So the question is when will we stop trying to nerf everything before the game becomes an echo of itself?
I could actually list all the nerfs and nerf overs throughout the history of this game. But, I would rather someone else do it.
I took this from another post to demonstrate how tiree a lot of us have become of manufacturee instability in this game just so devs can fee like you have done something innovative with the game.
If anyone wants to add other nerfs that devs have riddled the game with. Pls be my guest and list them. Some have been nerfed, buffed, nerfed angain and buffed again.
Ridiculousness
strom arena, nerf event drops, nerf transmutation drops, nerf race against time, nerf draining shot, nerf nightblade, nerf sorc, nerf dragonknight, nerf major evasion, nerf sub assault, nerf wings, nerf ravager, nerf blocking, nerf dodge rolling, nerf cloak, nerf mist form, nerf enchants, nerf spin to win, nerf argonians, nerf orcs, nerf snipe, nerf master's staff, nerf healing, nerf solar flare, nerf necromancer, nerf dot ticks, nerf crafting...did I miss anything? These forums are filled with whiny entitled players who don't want challenging game play they want to beat everybody and all content with the least amount of skill possible. So the question is when will we stop trying to nerf everything before the game becomes an echo of itself?
I could actually list all the nerfs and nerf overs throughout the history of this game. But, I would rather someone else do it.
I took this from another post to demonstrate how tiree a lot of us have become of manufacturee instability in this game just so devs can fee like you have done something innovative with the game.
If anyone wants to add other nerfs that devs have riddled the game with. Pls be my guest and list them. Some have been nerfed, buffed, nerfed angain and buffed again.
Ridiculousness
I dunno... since they are talking about buffs, nerfs to their favorite skills and class. I've actually played Matrix Online when it came out. And yeah... even goin by the OP's logic, ESO is not even close to being the most unstable game ever. And i was a Demonology Lock in WoW for 14 years and they are technically the most nerfed class in any mmos history. Okay, little bias there cause i do still love locks, and hated their nerfs 😋
Sounds more like the OP just upset that their favorite skills, races and class(es) got hit with the whiffle nerf bat, and needs to vent before actually lashing out.
FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »OP is simply wrong and has not played many MMOs. Off the top of my head I can name worst stable MMOs that pretty much deleted classes to uselessness for profit and P2W.
- Black Desert Online
- Blade and Soul
- Blessed Online
- Revelation Online
- Skyforge
I could keep on going but you get the drift.
ESO is actually one of the most stable and better MMOs. That I have played in my 16 plus years of MMO experience, through many MMO titles. That is the truth!
There are only two that I can think of that are more stable than ESO. That's Guild Wars 2 and Eve Online.
barney2525 wrote: »FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »OP is simply wrong and has not played many MMOs. Off the top of my head I can name worst stable MMOs that pretty much deleted classes to uselessness for profit and P2W.
- Black Desert Online
- Blade and Soul
- Blessed Online
- Revelation Online
- Skyforge
I could keep on going but you get the drift.
ESO is actually one of the most stable and better MMOs. That I have played in my 16 plus years of MMO experience, through many MMO titles. That is the truth!
There are only two that I can think of that are more stable than ESO. That's Guild Wars 2 and Eve Online.
You forgot Archeage. Archeage had to add tech to its servers to be able to roll-back, because their first major addition was such a disaster. Archeage has had periods of times where you could not login for literal days, and spent your time checking on forums.
Lotsa worse games the ESO
barney2525 wrote: »FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »OP is simply wrong and has not played many MMOs. Off the top of my head I can name worst stable MMOs that pretty much deleted classes to uselessness for profit and P2W.
- Black Desert Online
- Blade and Soul
- Blessed Online
- Revelation Online
- Skyforge
I could keep on going but you get the drift.
ESO is actually one of the most stable and better MMOs. That I have played in my 16 plus years of MMO experience, through many MMO titles. That is the truth!
There are only two that I can think of that are more stable than ESO. That's Guild Wars 2 and Eve Online.
You forgot Archeage. Archeage had to add tech to its servers to be able to roll-back, because their first major addition was such a disaster. Archeage has had periods of times where you could not login for literal days, and spent your time checking on forums.
Lotsa worse games the ESO
Goregrinder wrote: »Sounds like OP has played a grand total of like 2 MMO's in his life...WoW and ESO lol..
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"Flavor of the Month" ahh. Brings back memories.Goregrinder wrote: »Sounds like OP has played a grand total of like 2 MMO's in his life...WoW and ESO lol..
even if they had played WoW as their only other MMO they would have known that their claims are disinginuous. I mean.. WoW is an mmo, that resets your progress every 2 years COMPLETELY, has gone through so much class redesign and so many class nerfs, I honestly lost count several expansions ago. now i may be wrong, but Im fairly certain that Flash of the month - came from wow. cause they would do this thing where they would overbuff a class, and everyone would play it, only for them to nerf it to the ground. and they have been doing pretty much for as long as the game existed.
FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »OP is simply wrong and has not played many MMOs. Off the top of my head I can name worst stable MMOs that pretty much deleted classes to uselessness for profit and P2W.
- Black Desert Online
- Blade and Soul
- Blessed Online
- Revelation Online
- Skyforge
I could keep on going but you get the drift.
ESO is actually one of the most stable and better MMOs. That I have played in my 16 plus years of MMO experience, through many MMO titles. That is the truth!
There are only two that I can think of that are more stable than ESO. That's Guild Wars 2 and Eve Online.
Goregrinder wrote: »Sounds like OP has played a grand total of like 2 MMO's in his life...WoW and ESO lol..
Crafts_Many_Boxes wrote: »The problem is that they need to continuously nerf us to combat any sort of power increase created by the CP system / strong new sets. This is because of horizontal progression.
The reason other MMOs don't nerf as much is because they just re-tool certain skills entirely when the next expansion drops, or it scales differently due to new levels, or they just nerf it and nobody notices because at least they're getting stronger with the new level cap, gear cap, etc.
With ESO, new expansions don't come with increased level cap, and what little tiny marginal power increase we got with CP is now seemingly gone. Generally speaking, I haven't done more dps in almost 2 years now. The mathematical ceiling has risen, but unless you're in bleeding edge trials groups with perfect coordination, you probably haven't seen a dps increase of more than 2-3k in years, assuming your own skill level has stayed the same. There are exceptions for some class / stat combos, but this is generally true.
From a technical perspective, continuous nerfs may be necessary given the model they've chosen and how difficult or engaging they dictate certain content must be, but it just feels bad being nerfed all the time.
I've made a lot of posts about this in the past, and I'll keep on saying it until it's not true: ZOS needs to rethink horizontal progression, because long term it just isn't fun, and that's the point of any game.
p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »
There are only two that I can think of that are more stable than ESO. That's Guild Wars 2 and Eve Online.
Eve Online went down the drain the moment CCP allowed to buy with real money PLEX and sell it for ISK.
The biggest P2W addition in any game in history, when at the same point you need subscription to play. There are some who have spent tens of thousands to build up corporations and alliances overnight.
FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »OP is simply wrong and has not played many MMOs. Off the top of my head I can name worst stable MMOs that pretty much deleted classes to uselessness for profit and P2W.
- Black Desert Online
- Blade and Soul
- Blessed Online
- Revelation Online
- Skyforge
I could keep on going but you get the drift.
ESO is actually one of the most stable and better MMOs. That I have played in my 16 plus years of MMO experience, through many MMO titles. That is the truth!
There are only two that I can think of that are more stable than ESO. That's Guild Wars 2 and Eve Online.
Wild Star (More Stable)
EveSkyforge
Neverwinter (More Stable)
Guild Wars (More Stable)
Star Wars Old Rep (More Stable)
Star Trek ((More Stable)
Dcuo (More Stable)
City of Heros (More Stable)
Tera
Champion Online (More Stable)
Yeah...but I havent play any mmos...I played mmos before most of youre were even born.
I have played alot of mmos. Listen here zippy! BDO is a good game. Youre talking about bdo as if they deleted those classes recently. That was in the beginning stages. Not after 5 years like eso.
Even Dcuo which was and is a crappy game is more stable than ESO. Yourr builds are fine no matter when you come back.
Hell. If youre definition of stable is nerfing youre builds every 2 to 3 month, then have at it.
For sane people who make there own builds and spend hours and weeks creating effective new and unique builds, this game will waste that time. Some of you have time to waste. Good for you. Mine is valuable and I certainly am not going to pay someone to make my time a complete waste simply because devs want to give the illusion they are
"Balancing the Game"
Lmfao!
P.S. look a the list. You didnt think very hard.
spartaxoxo wrote: »Go play Perfect World International and then talk to me about unstable or P2W.
FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »OP is simply wrong and has not played many MMOs. Off the top of my head I can name worst stable MMOs that pretty much deleted classes to uselessness for profit and P2W.
- Black Desert Online
- Blade and Soul
- Blessed Online
- Revelation Online
- Skyforge
I could keep on going but you get the drift.
ESO is actually one of the most stable and better MMOs. That I have played in my 16 plus years of MMO experience, through many MMO titles. That is the truth!
There are only two that I can think of that are more stable than ESO. That's Guild Wars 2 and Eve Online.
Wild Star (More Stable)
EveSkyforge
Neverwinter (More Stable)
Guild Wars (More Stable)
Star Wars Old Rep (More Stable)
Star Trek ((More Stable)
Dcuo (More Stable)
City of Heros (More Stable)
Tera
Champion Online (More Stable)
Yeah...but I havent play any mmos...I played mmos before most of youre were even born.
I have played alot of mmos. Listen here zippy! BDO is a good game. Youre talking about bdo as if they deleted those classes recently. That was in the beginning stages. Not after 5 years like eso.
Even Dcuo which was and is a crappy game is more stable than ESO. Yourr builds are fine no matter when you come back.
Hell. If youre definition of stable is nerfing youre builds every 2 to 3 month, then have at it.
For sane people who make there own builds and spend hours and weeks creating effective new and unique builds, this game will waste that time. Some of you have time to waste. Good for you. Mine is valuable and I certainly am not going to pay someone to make my time a complete waste simply because devs want to give the illusion they are
"Balancing the Game"
Lmfao!
P.S. look a the list. You didnt think very hard.