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Change to attunable tables

Shadowasrial
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As you know homes have a very limited amount of space. And for some guilds they dedicate almost the entire 700 spaces for a eso plus notable home to place all the crafting tables in the home. It really forces the owner to choose the house to be functional over visual for the guild. Some guilds love having a theme to the guild house. So my idea is just when you buy an attunable “table” they should rename it to PAGE. That Apply’s to a single attunable table thus allowing you to right tab to the correct table you wish to use. Yes it’s a lot of clicking but if it’s alphabetical then you can rapidly click till your close to the right one rather easily. This would allow you to save so much space to the house allowing you to actually decorate your house and can also add a bit of organization to some crafting homes since the table would sort the sets alphabetically.

Change to attunable tables 33 votes

Yes
87%
AimoraAurielleLivvyJeremyRi_KhanOreyn_BearclawCraziuxlillybitKatahdinbri5VildebillMyNameIsEliasFischblutMjolnirVilkasDarth_TrumpiousShadowasrialheaven13ChickenSuckerEvilAutoTechrosie 29 votes
No
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Acrolassp_korshunKappaKid83Sateena 4 votes
  • Sateena
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    No
    My reason for voting NO, it would only benefit PC players and would not address the issue for those of us on console. Yes this is an issue. Yes they need a fix but not one that only applies if you run PC
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    Sateena wrote: »
    My reason for voting NO, it would only benefit PC players and would not address the issue for those of us on console. Yes this is an issue. Yes they need a fix but not one that only applies if you run PC

    Really? How would this not benefit console if you could reduce the load of a home from several dozen Tables to just a few. I use gamepad on PC and don't often need to type out most things except for specific searches on traders. If it were implemented, It would probably work like a list dropdown menu with the ones you haven't acquired grayed out.
  • Sateena
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    No
    Sateena wrote: »
    My reason for voting NO, it would only benefit PC players and would not address the issue for those of us on console. Yes this is an issue. Yes they need a fix but not one that only applies if you run PC

    Really? How would this not benefit console if you could reduce the load of a home from several dozen Tables to just a few. I use gamepad on PC and don't often need to type out most things except for specific searches on traders. If it were implemented, It would probably work like a list dropdown menu with the ones you haven't acquired grayed out.

    You play on PC and get extras like mods and add ons. Console does not.
  • ghastley
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    Yes
    I'd expect the selection list when using the table to contain only the styles it's attuned to, so the length of the list is user-controlled. If the list gets too long, use a second table. Scrolling through a list will be faster than running around a row of tables, anyway.

    This won't require any add-ons (and there are no mods), so it will benefit consoles just as much.
  • Sateena
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    ghastley wrote: »
    I'd expect the selection list when using the table to contain only the styles it's attuned to, so the length of the list is user-controlled. If the list gets too long, use a second table. Scrolling through a list will be faster than running around a row of tables, anyway.

    This won't require any add-ons (and there are no mods), so it will benefit consoles just as much.

    So you're saying make it to where there is esentially 1 table set, providing a drop down menu to select the attuneable you would like to use? If that were the case then I agree it would be useful on console as well. But the OP worded it sounded more like an add on or a mod.
  • Salvas_Aren
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    Sateena wrote: »
    Sateena wrote: »
    My reason for voting NO, it would only benefit PC players and would not address the issue for those of us on console. Yes this is an issue. Yes they need a fix but not one that only applies if you run PC

    Really? How would this not benefit console if you could reduce the load of a home from several dozen Tables to just a few. I use gamepad on PC and don't often need to type out most things except for specific searches on traders. If it were implemented, It would probably work like a list dropdown menu with the ones you haven't acquired grayed out.

    You play on PC and get extras like mods and add ons. Console does not.

    I see. So console comes with more homes which can handle a load of benches instead?

    Wait, no, you don't have more or bigger houses. :trollface:
  • Sateena
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    No
    Sateena wrote: »
    Sateena wrote: »
    My reason for voting NO, it would only benefit PC players and would not address the issue for those of us on console. Yes this is an issue. Yes they need a fix but not one that only applies if you run PC

    Really? How would this not benefit console if you could reduce the load of a home from several dozen Tables to just a few. I use gamepad on PC and don't often need to type out most things except for specific searches on traders. If it were implemented, It would probably work like a list dropdown menu with the ones you haven't acquired grayed out.

    You play on PC and get extras like mods and add ons. Console does not.

    I see. So console comes with more homes which can handle a load of benches instead?

    Wait, no, you don't have more or bigger houses. :trollface:

    What? You make no sense mate.
  • Ri_Khan
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    Yes
    This absolutely needs to be streamlined. The way it is now is ridiculous and is a perfect example of how lacking the housing & guild hall aspects of the game are.
  • Aurielle
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    Yes
    If I understand you correctly, OP, you’re asking for attunable stations to contain a drop down list of multiple sets, rather than the current mess of one set per station. I fully agree with this proposition. Make the base station cost the same as a regular crafting station (eliminating the basic station entirely, which is honestly worthless at this point unless you’re purely using them for decon/daily writs), and make each attunable “page” cost what a current attunable station costs. The cool thing about this is that you could customize your organization. Either have one crafting station for each craft that contains all your attunables, or have three separate stations for magicka sets, stamina sets, and health/tank/hybrid sets.

    I love attunable stations, and I love the fact that the trading guild I’m in has access to all craftable sets, but I hate trying to find specific stations. They’re arranged alphabetically in a large circle, which means I’m doing a lot of running whenever I’m crafting something for a master writ. Also, it’s not all that visually appealing (even though the owner of our guild hall has done a pretty good job, all things considered).
    Edited by Aurielle on May 7, 2019 1:38PM
  • Prof_Bawbag
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    Sateena wrote: »
    Sateena wrote: »
    My reason for voting NO, it would only benefit PC players and would not address the issue for those of us on console. Yes this is an issue. Yes they need a fix but not one that only applies if you run PC

    Really? How would this not benefit console if you could reduce the load of a home from several dozen Tables to just a few. I use gamepad on PC and don't often need to type out most things except for specific searches on traders. If it were implemented, It would probably work like a list dropdown menu with the ones you haven't acquired grayed out.

    You play on PC and get extras like mods and add ons. Console does not.

    I see. So console comes with more homes which can handle a load of benches instead?

    Wait, no, you don't have more or bigger houses. :trollface:

    A truly bizarre response. Even for these forums.
  • Aurielle
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    Yes
    Sateena wrote: »
    Sateena wrote: »
    My reason for voting NO, it would only benefit PC players and would not address the issue for those of us on console. Yes this is an issue. Yes they need a fix but not one that only applies if you run PC

    Really? How would this not benefit console if you could reduce the load of a home from several dozen Tables to just a few. I use gamepad on PC and don't often need to type out most things except for specific searches on traders. If it were implemented, It would probably work like a list dropdown menu with the ones you haven't acquired grayed out.

    You play on PC and get extras like mods and add ons. Console does not.

    I see. So console comes with more homes which can handle a load of benches instead?

    Wait, no, you don't have more or bigger houses. :trollface:

    A truly bizarre response. Even for these forums.

    Yeah, I’m thinking that person grossly misunderstood what the other person was saying (partly, I think, because THAT person grossly misunderstood what the OP was saying).

    Clarity, folks. Aim for it in your writing.
  • Vildebill
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    Yes
    Just increase the furniture cap already...
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  • Katahdin
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    Yes
    This would eliminate the need to have 100+ tables. One table for each armor weight and jewlery with a drop down list.

    Charge 1000 writ vouchers each.

    Would be totally awesome
    Beta tester November 2013
  • Acrolas
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    No
    Attunable tables were designed as a personal convenience. Guild housing is not officially supported and it's highly unlikely future decisions will pretend it is, because that would further obscure the reality that everything in a housing instance is controlled by the account it exists on - for better or for worse.

    If you want to extend 100 tables as a convenience for others, that's fine. But the opportunity cost is 100 other furnishings.
    signing off
  • heaven13
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    Yes
    Absolutely think this should be a thing and have been saying so for ages. With each new chapter and zone, 3+ new sets are released (so 12+ slots) but housing limits have not increased making the fit for attunable stations tighter and tighter and further restricting any type of additional decorating that can be done.

    It wouldn't even need to be a drop down selection menu (though I'd prefer that as it's a neater and faster system to sort through). Instead, there could be an additional line for selection like styles and traits where you flip through until you get to the set you need. Only sets that have been attuned to the station would show up.
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  • Jeremy
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    Yes
    As you know homes have a very limited amount of space. And for some guilds they dedicate almost the entire 700 spaces for a eso plus notable home to place all the crafting tables in the home. It really forces the owner to choose the house to be functional over visual for the guild. Some guilds love having a theme to the guild house. So my idea is just when you buy an attunable “table” they should rename it to PAGE. That Apply’s to a single attunable table thus allowing you to right tab to the correct table you wish to use. Yes it’s a lot of clicking but if it’s alphabetical then you can rapidly click till your close to the right one rather easily. This would allow you to save so much space to the house allowing you to actually decorate your house and can also add a bit of organization to some crafting homes since the table would sort the sets alphabetically.

    Great idea.

    And I would take some extra clicking any day over having to run from one station to the next over and over while trying to find the one you're actually looking for.
    Edited by Jeremy on May 7, 2019 5:07PM
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Yes
    I would vote for some sort of change. The reality is that attunable stations are really only useful for guild halls, whether ZOS supports them or not. It's also pretty much an all or nothing scenario with these. It just doesnt make sense (especially for the cost) to put a handful of them in a personal home. Nobody needs to craft that much of a specific set, and to be frank, you can get to almost any crafting station (save a few like ones located in IC) in the time it takes you to port to your house.

    They are primarily useful for doing large amounts of crafting writs at a time, or just having a go to place where you know everything is going to be for a specific crafting project. Both (especially the first) fall apart if you dont have every single one of them. In other words, a house with half the sets is basically useless.

    Fortunately, I am in a guild that has a house with them all. I would never try to do it on my own because the inventory and cost is not realistic for a single player's primary residence. I believe there are around 50 crafted sets in the game, which comes down to 50k crafting vouchers or probably about 40 million gold. It also takes up approximately 200 storage slots if my math is right. Most individual players dont have 50k vouchers or that kind of gold lying around, so it takes a team (guild) effort. I certainly donated vouchers to our guild hall for this purpose.
  • Goregrinder
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    Attunable tables were designed as a personal convenience. Guild housing is not officially supported and it's highly unlikely future decisions will pretend it is, because that would further obscure the reality that everything in a housing instance is controlled by the account it exists on - for better or for worse.

    If you want to extend 100 tables as a convenience for others, that's fine. But the opportunity cost is 100 other furnishings.

    Yup. It's ALREADY a QOL convenience...what more do you want, 10 million gold in your inventory every day from ZOS?
  • EvilAutoTech
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    Yes
    Acrolas wrote: »
    Attunable tables were designed as a personal convenience. Guild housing is not officially supported and it's highly unlikely future decisions will pretend it is, because that would further obscure the reality that everything in a housing instance is controlled by the account it exists on - for better or for worse.

    If you want to extend 100 tables as a convenience for others, that's fine. But the opportunity cost is 100 other furnishings.

    Yup. It's ALREADY a QOL convenience...what more do you want, 10 million gold in your inventory every day from ZOS?

    I mean, if it's an option...
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