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Zos, can you stop?
Victor_Blade
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Can you please stop nerfing an already dead pvp class (magblade) any further?
First, you took away the minor vitality buff from swallow soul. A flat 8% healing nerf.
Then you remove minor berserk from merciless. 8% damage nerf.
Then, you're trying to force a ranged class with basically no heals to go in melee range by using a gap closer to get that minor vulnerability buff.
And that didn't satisfy you, so you gave stamblades (the superior damage dealing version of the base class) another way to abuse magblade? You made piercing mark free and now they can basically dodge roll and vigor out while spamming piercing mark on us and taking away our only decent defense skill?
The best thing they could do right now to make magblades viable again is :-
1. Add major expedition on phantasmal escape so it becomes a defensive buff compared to rat.
2. Change malevolent offerings lesser used morph(I've never used it so idk) to a decent burst heal that consumes magicka but applies minor defile.
Having a few negative effects but getting a really good heal to escape execute range will be priceless.
3. The defense buff to grim focus is pretty stupid. If they don't want nightblade to have minor berserk then they could just add Minor Force to merciless and give relentless major endurance. (Not class breaking anymore)
4. Make reapers mark free and revert piercing mark back to costing magicka.
5. Rework shade so it works again.
(Optional)
6. Make the magicka version of teleport strike send out a shade instead of you just jumping in. It'll be similar to how blastbones work but instead rework it so it applies a dot instead of direct damage.
Edited by Victor_Blade on May 1, 2019 4:01PM First, you took away the minor vitality buff from swallow soul. A flat 8% healing nerf.
Then you remove minor berserk from merciless. 8% damage nerf.
Then, you're trying to force a ranged class with basically no heals to go in melee range by using a gap closer to get that minor vulnerability buff.
And that didn't satisfy you, so you gave stamblades (the superior damage dealing version of the base class) another way to abuse magblade? You made piercing mark free and now they can basically dodge roll and vigor out while spamming piercing mark on us and taking away our only decent defense skill?
The best thing they could do right now to make magblades viable again is :-
1. Add major expedition on phantasmal escape so it becomes a defensive buff compared to rat.
2. Change malevolent offerings lesser used morph(I've never used it so idk) to a decent burst heal that consumes magicka but applies minor defile.
Having a few negative effects but getting a really good heal to escape execute range will be priceless.
3. The defense buff to grim focus is pretty stupid. If they don't want nightblade to have minor berserk then they could just add Minor Force to merciless and give relentless major endurance. (Not class breaking anymore)
4. Make reapers mark free and revert piercing mark back to costing magicka.
5. Rework shade so it works again.
(Optional)
6. Make the magicka version of teleport strike send out a shade instead of you just jumping in. It'll be similar to how blastbones work but instead rework it so it applies a dot instead of direct damage.
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Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Well, ZoS has nerfed the 2 classes I play the most in the last 2 years: mageblade and mDK. None of them was overperforming by the way.
From my experience with DK I can tell you, after the nerf it comes an overbuff that is eclipsed by another overnerf. Or they just buff something nobody uses and pigeohole you into building in certain way, so you can take advantage of that buff.
Anyway, it is quite unhealthySarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
GrumpyDuckling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Victor_Blade wrote: »Can you please stop nerfing an already dead pvp class (magblade) any further?
First, you took away the minor vitality buff from swallow soul. A flat 8% healing nerf.
Then you remove minor berserk from merciless. 8% damage nerf.
Then, you're trying to force a ranged class with basically no heals to go in melee range by using a gap closer to get that minor vulnerability buff.
And that didn't satisfy you, so you gave stamblades (the superior damage dealing version of the base class) another way to abuse magblade? You made piercing mark free and now they can basically dodge roll and vigor out while spamming piercing mark on us and taking away our only decent defense skill?
^The part I quoted is solid. I suggest you stick with that part and remove the rest of the post -- specifically, the suggestion to remove magicka skills and calling out a largely powerless class rep really detracts from the awesomeness of the beginning of the post.1 -
Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
✭I really want magblade to get a good self heal using one of the malevolent offering morphs and major sorcery on merciless. And for stamblade I want major savagery on surprise attack nb is the only class I enjoy playing.0 -
Victor_Blade✭✭✭✭Well, ZoS has nerfed the 2 classes I play the most in the last 2 years: mageblade and mDK. None of them was overperforming by the way.
From my experience with DK I can tell you, after the nerf it comes an overbuff that is eclipsed by another overnerf. Or they just buff something nobody uses and pigeohole you into building in certain way, so you can take advantage of that buff.
Anyway, it is quite unhealthy
People complain how wings were over performing and as a magblade I disagree. I know they completely shut a magblade down but what would've been a better approach is to make swallow soul or crippling grasp. There was no need to change a class defining skill but I can't tell what zos is thinking at this point...0 -
Victor_Blade✭✭✭✭GrumpyDuckling wrote: »Victor_Blade wrote: »Can you please stop nerfing an already dead pvp class (magblade) any further?
First, you took away the minor vitality buff from swallow soul. A flat 8% healing nerf.
Then you remove minor berserk from merciless. 8% damage nerf.
Then, you're trying to force a ranged class with basically no heals to go in melee range by using a gap closer to get that minor vulnerability buff.
And that didn't satisfy you, so you gave stamblades (the superior damage dealing version of the base class) another way to abuse magblade? You made piercing mark free and now they can basically dodge roll and vigor out while spamming piercing mark on us and taking away our only decent defense skill?
^The part I quoted is solid. I suggest you stick with that part and remove the rest of the post -- specifically, the suggestion to remove magicka skills and calling out a largely powerless class rep really detracts from the awesomeness of the beginning of the post.
Alright, I'll do that thanks hehe. I was just really upset how zos didn't understand the actual pain points of playing classes like magblade/magdk/stamsorc in pvp.
Thanks for the suggestion ^-^0 -
Victor_Blade✭✭✭✭Deathlord92 wrote: »I really want magblade to get a good self heal using one of the malevolent offering morphs and major sorcery on merciless. And for stamblade I want major savagery on surprise attack nb is the only class I enjoy playing.
They won't add major sorcery for sure since it's already on sap and if I'm right, zos is changing skills that have similar buffs just like major fracture from surprise attack.0 -
Jagdkommando✭✭✭✭Victor_Blade wrote: »Well, ZoS has nerfed the 2 classes I play the most in the last 2 years: mageblade and mDK. None of them was overperforming by the way.
From my experience with DK I can tell you, after the nerf it comes an overbuff that is eclipsed by another overnerf. Or they just buff something nobody uses and pigeohole you into building in certain way, so you can take advantage of that buff.
Anyway, it is quite unhealthy
People complain how wings were over performing and as a magblade I disagree. I know they completely shut a magblade down but what would've been a better approach is to make swallow soul or crippling grasp. There was no need to change a class defining skill but I can't tell what zos is thinking at this point...
Not only magblades, stamblades too are cut down. The only thing we had was really high damage. And now we are mid damage and with no real defense cuz our defense was offense.0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Victor_Blade wrote: »Well, ZoS has nerfed the 2 classes I play the most in the last 2 years: mageblade and mDK. None of them was overperforming by the way.
From my experience with DK I can tell you, after the nerf it comes an overbuff that is eclipsed by another overnerf. Or they just buff something nobody uses and pigeohole you into building in certain way, so you can take advantage of that buff.
Anyway, it is quite unhealthy
People complain how wings were over performing and as a magblade I disagree. I know they completely shut a magblade down but what would've been a better approach is to make swallow soul or crippling grasp. There was no need to change a class defining skill but I can't tell what zos is thinking at this point...
I'm not talking about wings. My main concern is flame lash and it's current status. It was a pretty solid skill that received 5 consecutive nerfs. Now it is just meh.
Something similar to what they did with Soul Harvest... it was a pretty well balanced Ulti that received a nerf just beacuse the other morph was overperforming.Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
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Can’t blame a magblade for hoping though sap is useless they should remove major sorcery from it and put major sorcery on merciless as no one uses sap.Victor_Blade wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »I really want magblade to get a good self heal using one of the malevolent offering morphs and major sorcery on merciless. And for stamblade I want major savagery on surprise attack nb is the only class I enjoy playing.
They won't add major sorcery for sure since it's already on sap and if I'm right, zos is changing skills that have similar buffs just like major fracture from surprise attack.
Edited by Deathlord92 on May 3, 2019 3:53PM0