Is my DPS to low ?

jarydf · April 2019

Getting better dps is comes in increments in this game.

Practicing a rotation that you can reliably repeat is probably the main thing.

Please don't get trapped into thinking one gear set or rotation is the only answer. You can do good dps with plenty of sets, many that are craftable or you can buy cheap in guild stores and improve.

With the skills in your rotation look at the ones that other people use and test them out on a dummy. Practice the rotation changing things and see if that small change gets you an extra 1-2k in your rotation and then put all those small changes together.

Perfecting a rotation, eating blue food, changing your skills, mundus stone and cp allocation are cheap ways to improve your dps. Put that with a couple of half decent sets and eventually a monster set and you will be good to go.

Another thing to say is you are a mag sorc so you have a lot of aoe skills available to you. Having a good set of aoe skills in your rotation may get less dps on a target dummy but if you are set up to do that same dps to 5 mobs at once it can make a big difference over all.

Why kill one thing when you can KILL ALL THE THINGS!!! LOL

Good luck.

InvictusApollo · April 2019

Juhasow wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Grianasteri wrote: »

See this is what I am talking about, Im not the person saying the average player does 10k dps, it seems this is a well established matter. My own experience certainly concurs. Yet so many people on these forums talk frequently about how easy it is to do over 20k dps, 30k, 40k... if that were really the case, if it doesnt even need a rotation, it only needs 1 skill, why is the average player only doing 10k? I am mystified.

Remember your college years ? Just before an exam, for which you've learned, prepared and studied 18h/day for three weeks non-stop, just to be ready (and you still don't feel ready though). And your fellow students around you claim loud and clear that they haven't done anything, because they didn't need to, because the stuff's "easy".
Well, it's the same that's happening here. Pretending that something that you can do but others can't is "easy" is just another perverse way to feel superior and make others feel miserable. The truth is, of course, that your fellow students have also studied and learned 18h/day for 3 weeks.
And that's what's happening in ESO with people pretending that reaching 25K DPS is "easy". When it's not for some 90% of the players. And the truth is, those who can do that have practiced countless hours on dummies to get there.

You know, Usain Bolt would probably say that running 100m in 12 seconds is "easy", and he probably could do that already when he was 10 without any prior training. 99% of humans can't do that though - even if they train.

Yeah it definietly took me 3 weeks of studying 18 hours per day to get 20k DPS

For the record here is the parse

And here is the rotation to achieve it

No I am not joking or trolling. I literally put an iron on left button on my mouse and got over 20k DPS with it. I definietly practiced "countless hours on dummies to get there"

So either I am Usain Bolt of parsing or You have no idea what You're talking about.

Do I need this particaular model of iron or will any do?
Isn't that considered using external devices to achieve an unfair advantage over other players? Maybe you should be banned?

I jest ofcourse

BejaProphet · April 2019

Juhasow wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Grianasteri wrote: »

See this is what I am talking about, Im not the person saying the average player does 10k dps, it seems this is a well established matter. My own experience certainly concurs. Yet so many people on these forums talk frequently about how easy it is to do over 20k dps, 30k, 40k... if that were really the case, if it doesnt even need a rotation, it only needs 1 skill, why is the average player only doing 10k? I am mystified.

Remember your college years ? Just before an exam, for which you've learned, prepared and studied 18h/day for three weeks non-stop, just to be ready (and you still don't feel ready though). And your fellow students around you claim loud and clear that they haven't done anything, because they didn't need to, because the stuff's "easy".
Well, it's the same that's happening here. Pretending that something that you can do but others can't is "easy" is just another perverse way to feel superior and make others feel miserable. The truth is, of course, that your fellow students have also studied and learned 18h/day for 3 weeks.
And that's what's happening in ESO with people pretending that reaching 25K DPS is "easy". When it's not for some 90% of the players. And the truth is, those who can do that have practiced countless hours on dummies to get there.

You know, Usain Bolt would probably say that running 100m in 12 seconds is "easy", and he probably could do that already when he was 10 without any prior training. 99% of humans can't do that though - even if they train.

Yeah it definietly took me 3 weeks of studying 18 hours per day to get 20k DPS

For the record here is the parse

And here is the rotation to achieve it

No I am not joking or trolling. I literally put an iron on left button on my mouse and got over 20k DPS with it. I definietly practiced "countless hours on dummies to get there"

So either I am Usain Bolt of parsing or You have no idea what You're talking about.

Holy crap, we’ll played. How have we not abandoned the original point of the thread to instead talk about how awesome this post was.

This is not sarcasm. Dude just hit 20k by sitting an iron on the controller.

Morgha_Kul · April 2019

That sounds like about what I do on my hybrid Templar. Honestly, I don't WANT to do much more than that, because it would trivialize much of the game. I've heard tell of people doing upwards of 50k dps.

thorwyn · April 2019

The difference between ESO and all the other MMOs is the additional layer of timing. Equipment, CP etc. only gets you so far, the rest is another learning curve.
When I reached a decent CP level and had all my gear ready, enchanted and golden, I was pretty surprised that I did not immediately join the ranks of the super high dps club. Instead, I was still crawling around somewhere between 15 and 20k dps. I knew my rotation, so that was not the issue. Testing on the 3mio dummy, my magicka bar went empty faster than a half pint of lager, while the dummy was still picking it's nose, sitting pretty behind hits 2,7mio remaining hp. It was frustrating to see all the other players in my guild pulling about twice the dps without any problems.
Eventually, I downloaded the light attack tracker and it was a life changer for me, because I realised that I was executing my rotation WAYYYY to quickly, thereby losing a sh*t ton of damage.
My advice to the op is: get this AddOn, go visit a dummy, start attackign sequences of 20* LA+[your spammable]. Count from 1 to 20, then look what the light attack tracker says. If it says 20 LA's at >0,5LA/second, you are on your way. Don't pay attention to dps at this point, it's not important. Try to increase your LA/second instead without losing total LA's. Once you get the hang of it, include this into your real rotation. You *will* see a significant increas of dps as well as much better sustain.
Good luck!

Oreyn_Bearclaw · April 2019

thorwyn wrote: »

The difference between ESO and all the other MMOs is the additional layer of timing. Equipment, CP etc. only gets you so far, the rest is another learning curve.
When I reached a decent CP level and had all my gear ready, enchanted and golden, I was pretty surprised that I did not immediately join the ranks of the super high dps club. Instead, I was still crawling around somewhere between 15 and 20k dps. I knew my rotation, so that was not the issue. Testing on the 3mio dummy, my magicka bar went empty faster than a half pint of lager, while the dummy was still picking it's nose, sitting pretty behind hits 2,7mio remaining hp. It was frustrating to see all the other players in my guild pulling about twice the dps without any problems.
Eventually, I downloaded the light attack tracker and it was a life changer for me, because I realised that I was executing my rotation WAYYYY to quickly, thereby losing a sh*t ton of damage.
My advice to the op is: get this AddOn, go visit a dummy, start attackign sequences of 20* LA+[your spammable]. Count from 1 to 20, then look what the light attack tracker says. If it says 20 LA's at >0,5LA/second, you are on your way. Don't pay attention to dps at this point, it's not important. Try to increase your LA/second instead without losing total LA's. Once you get the hang of it, include this into your real rotation. You *will* see a significant increas of dps as well as much better sustain.
Good luck!

Hmm... Turns out it was. Haha. It's always your rotation.

Mintaka5 · April 2019

Your DPS is fine.

thorwyn · April 2019

Hmm... Turns out it was. Haha. It's always your rotation.

Yep... oh the irony.

Grandma · April 2019

with my build of spell strategist, MS, and illambris I do 14k dps just light attacking to build ultimate for my next parse.

it's really all about your build, rotation, skills, passives, stone, food, potions (yes, expensive ones make a difference), and lastly cp allocation.

Grianasteri · April 2019

Juhasow wrote: »

Also yes I was talking about brick used for building. Put it on left mouse button leave the room and You'll still get 20k DPS.

Nope, not having it, its just nonsense. Even with gold armour, weapons and bis gear, I doubt anything like 20k dps is possible from 100% heavy attacks.

This kind of hyperbolic statement is most frustrating because its just not true.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · April 2019

Grianasteri wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Also yes I was talking about brick used for building. Put it on left mouse button leave the room and You'll still get 20k DPS.

Nope, not having it, its just nonsense. Even with gold armour, weapons and bis gear, I doubt anything like 20k dps is possible from 100% heavy attacks.

This kind of hyperbolic statement is most frustrating because its just not true.

Umm...

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5955596/#Comment_5955596

Juhasow · April 2019

Grianasteri wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Also yes I was talking about brick used for building. Put it on left mouse button leave the room and You'll still get 20k DPS.

Nope, not having it, its just nonsense. Even with gold armour, weapons and bis gear, I doubt anything like 20k dps is possible from 100% heavy attacks.

This kind of hyperbolic statement is most frustrating because its just not true.

Ehh... This again ? @Grianasteri there is my post proving it's possible earlier in this thread. Maybe it's worth for You to double check on certain informations before You call someone a liar. The only difference is that I replaced brick with iron.