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Sure all is fair in love in war, but I seen few mention if any the group of PvP players who got out of their way to make sure their faction can PvE Peace. They are the people who making the event heartwarming.
P.S ZOS please fix the door and load screen ganking before week 5.
Edited by Tasear on April 22, 2019 6:36AM P.S ZOS please fix the door and load screen ganking before week 5.
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MirkoZ✭✭✭✭In this event I have seen a lot of people that camped near cities in order to get easy kills and ap, well , I respected those people since they were good pvp players but now I know how they actually are.14
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Syy101✭✭✭Why ZOS doesn't implement a similar "silence" system in Cyrodiil just like the one in IC is beyond me.
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✭✭✭✭✭Last year's anniversary event i was in a group defending pact questers in Cropsford. It was a thankless job, but i felt good about my sacrifice so that people could access the quest givers in peace.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭Sure all is fair in love in war, but I seen few mention if any the group of PvP players who got out of their way to make sure their faction can PvE Peace. They are the people who making the event heartwarming.
P.S ZOS please fix the door and load screen ganking before week 5.
Could you please rephrase your message, I am no native English speaker and cannot make sense of your words.PC EU - Ebonheart Pact - Gray Host - Death Recap -#zergfarming -0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Sure all is fair in love in war, but I seen few mention if any the group of PvP players who got out of their way to make sure their faction can PvE Peace. They are the people who making the event heartwarming.
P.S ZOS please fix the door and load screen ganking before week 5.
There is no PvE in a PvP zone. A quest isn't the exclusive right of a PvE player.
A huge hint there's no PvE quests in Cyrodiil? Other players had to defend it....with PvP.
A quest in a PvP zone that gives a PvP currency reward with the expectation that PvP can happen on said quest....sounds like a PvP quest to me.
I agree, the door killing is a low blow. A easy fix is to give boxes out only for the mission board quests in your alliance safe zone. Can't be ganked turning in quests and there's no "PvE" elements to those quests, so no misunderstanding. Although, I'd still wager some will still claim it is..ya know..because it's a quest....
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Edit: We, as a community, need to stop this idea that PvE exists in Cyrodiil, or there's such a thing as a "Cyrodiil tourest". It's basically leading lambs to the slaughter. You are giving out the idea a player not ready for PvP can just safely walk into Cyrodiil...without any expactaion of getting killed or ganked.
Really needs to stop.
Be prepared when you hit that travel to Cyrodiil button. You are never safe.Edited by Kel on April 24, 2019 12:00PM11 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Why ZOS doesn't implement a similar "silence" system in Cyrodiil just like the one in IC is beyond me.
I can PvP and take care of myself in Cyro, but getting killed while loading screen indoor is another story.
All they need to do is permanently open the door, bring the interior into the overworld's instance so players can place AoE's inside from a safe distance.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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VvardeFellow✭✭✭Indeed, thank you. I despise pvp, and have every game ever played. But, since I was forced to go to Sewer dill to get pretty boxes, I was able to get all the books and shards, only got killed 3-4 times (oceanic), 3 of the 4 were the loading screen.
Oh, I disagree. All is not fair in love and war.
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✭✭✭✭✭But, since I was forced to go to Sewer dill to get pretty boxes,
And that’s exactly what’s wrong with you people.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.11 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Sure all is fair in love in war, but I seen few mention if any the group of PvP players who got out of their way to make sure their faction can PvE Peace. They are the people who making the event heartwarming.
P.S ZOS please fix the door and load screen ganking before week 5.
There is no PvE in a PvP zone. A quest isn't the exclusive right of a PvE player.
A huge hint there's no PvE quests in Cyrodiil? Other players had to defend it....with PvP.
A quest in a PvP zone that gives a PvP currency reward with the expectation that PvP can happen on said quest....sounds like a PvP quest to me.
I agree, the door killing is a low blow. A easy fix is to give boxes out only for the mission board quests in your alliance safe zone. Can't be ganked turning in quests and there's no "PvE" elements to those quests, so no misunderstanding. Although, I'd still wager some will still claim it is..ya know..because it's a quest....
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Edit: We, as a community, need to stop this idea that PvE exists in Cyrodiil, or there's such a thing as a "Cyrodiil tourest". It's basically leading lambs to the slaughter. You are giving out the idea a player not ready for PvP can just safely walk into Cyrodiil...without any expactaion of getting killed or ganked.
Really needs to stop.
Be prepared when you hit that travel to Cyrodiil button. You are never safe.
😂 How did my thread turn into this. I simply wanted to say thank you to silence heros I saw in action. You know add something positive to all this.17 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Killing the griefers gives more ap as they are usually higher alliance rank than the questers.
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moses1763✭✭✭Sure all is fair in love in war, but I seen few mention if any the group of PvP players who got out of their way to make sure their faction can PvE Peace. They are the people who making the event heartwarming.
P.S ZOS please fix the door and load screen ganking before week 5.
There is no PvE in a PvP zone. A quest isn't the exclusive right of a PvE player.
A huge hint there's no PvE quests in Cyrodiil? Other players had to defend it....with PvP.
A quest in a PvP zone that gives a PvP currency reward with the expectation that PvP can happen on said quest....sounds like a PvP quest to me.
I agree, the door killing is a low blow. A easy fix is to give boxes out only for the mission board quests in your alliance safe zone. Can't be ganked turning in quests and there's no "PvE" elements to those quests, so no misunderstanding. Although, I'd still wager some will still claim it is..ya know..because it's a quest....
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Edit: We, as a community, need to stop this idea that PvE exists in Cyrodiil, or there's such a thing as a "Cyrodiil tourest". It's basically leading lambs to the slaughter. You are giving out the idea a player not ready for PvP can just safely walk into Cyrodiil...without any expactaion of getting killed or ganked.
Really needs to stop.
Be prepared when you hit that travel to Cyrodiil button. You are never safe.
😂 How did my thread turn into this. I simply wanted to say thank you to silence heros I saw in action. You know add something positive to all this.
take cover! /incoming
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✭✭✭✭✭Sure all is fair in love in war, but I seen few mention if any the group of PvP players who got out of their way to make sure their faction can PvE Peace. They are the people who making the event heartwarming.
P.S ZOS please fix the door and load screen ganking before week 5.
There is no PvE in a PvP zone. A quest isn't the exclusive right of a PvE player.
A huge hint there's no PvE quests in Cyrodiil? Other players had to defend it....with PvP.
A quest in a PvP zone that gives a PvP currency reward with the expectation that PvP can happen on said quest....sounds like a PvP quest to me.
I agree, the door killing is a low blow. A easy fix is to give boxes out only for the mission board quests in your alliance safe zone. Can't be ganked turning in quests and there's no "PvE" elements to those quests, so no misunderstanding. Although, I'd still wager some will still claim it is..ya know..because it's a quest....
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Edit: We, as a community, need to stop this idea that PvE exists in Cyrodiil, or there's such a thing as a "Cyrodiil tourest". It's basically leading lambs to the slaughter. You are giving out the idea a player not ready for PvP can just safely walk into Cyrodiil...without any expactaion of getting killed or ganked.
Really needs to stop.
Be prepared when you hit that travel to Cyrodiil button. You are never safe.
😂 How did my thread turn into this. I simply wanted to say thank you to silence heros I saw in action. You know add something positive to all this.
My issue isnt with you trying to turn a positive light on the event, or thank anyone...its the notion that somehow PvE is in a PvP zone. Saying things like that is exactly why we're hearing "I was forced to go into Cyrodiil" or "I was on a PvE quest in Cyrodiil, I shouldn't be killed".
Just pointing out that there is no PvE in Cyrodiil...saying otherwise is a disservice to players who hear that thinking they'll be safe or don't deserve to have PvP happen in a PvP zone. Like I said, it's encouraging lambs into the lions jaws.
Your message, though while nice, is misleading.
Nothing wrong with being nice..we could use alot more of it. But....nice still doesn't change reality.Edited by Kel on April 24, 2019 5:44PM3 -
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@KelMy issue isnt with you trying to turn a positive light on the event, or thank anyone...its the notion that somehow PvE is in a PvP zone. Saying things like that is exactly why we're hearing "I was forced to go into Cyrodiil" or "I was on a PvE quest in Cyrodiil, I shouldn't be killed".
Just pointing out that there is no PvE in Cyrodiil...saying otherwise is a disservice to players who hear that thinking they'll be safe or don't deserve to have PvP happen in a PvP zone. Like I said, it's encouraging lambs into the lions jaws.
Your message, though while nice, is misleading.
Nothing wrong with being nice..we could use alot more of it. But....nice still doesn't change reality.
To quote myself from another thread on the same topic:
"The part you are missing is where players were camping spawn points inside the quest pickup/dropoff buildings.
You zone into the building and you are dead on arrival.
No way to fight back, no ganking, nothing, just a loading screen and then dead.
Basically the same mechanic that the resource towers used to have when they still had doors.
There is a reason why ZOS removed those doors from the towers.
I'm sorry but that has nothing to do with PvP, it's a stupid mechanic that needs to go ..."
I still stand firmly behind this, camping a spawn point and have people come out of a loading screen into a death recap has absolutely *nothing* to do with PvP vs PvE and has everything to do with a broken mechanic that needs to go.
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SkysOutThizeOut✭✭✭✭Let’s be honest... not that many people are door camping. They’re not. People are just using that as the biggest excuse to complain, when really it’s not that rampant. Believe me... I’ve been camping those quest towns with the intent of trying to flip it for my faction or casually complete a quest or 2 myself... but those questers refuse to let me flip without a fight and refuse to let me turn in a quest without one... so I slaughter them and farm AP. And it’s much easier to farm them not camping a building they can avoid.
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@KelMy issue isnt with you trying to turn a positive light on the event, or thank anyone...its the notion that somehow PvE is in a PvP zone. Saying things like that is exactly why we're hearing "I was forced to go into Cyrodiil" or "I was on a PvE quest in Cyrodiil, I shouldn't be killed".
Just pointing out that there is no PvE in Cyrodiil...saying otherwise is a disservice to players who hear that thinking they'll be safe or don't deserve to have PvP happen in a PvP zone. Like I said, it's encouraging lambs into the lions jaws.
Your message, though while nice, is misleading.
Nothing wrong with being nice..we could use alot more of it. But....nice still doesn't change reality.
To quote myself from another thread on the same topic:
"The part you are missing is where players were camping spawn points inside the quest pickup/dropoff buildings.
You zone into the building and you are dead on arrival.
No way to fight back, no ganking, nothing, just a loading screen and then dead.
Basically the same mechanic that the resource towers used to have when they still had doors.
There is a reason why ZOS removed those doors from the towers.
I'm sorry but that has nothing to do with PvP, it's a stupid mechanic that needs to go ..."
I still stand firmly behind this, camping a spawn point and have people come out of a loading screen into a death recap has absolutely *nothing* to do with PvP vs PvE and has everything to do with a broken mechanic that needs to go.
This doesn't address the issue @Kel is trying to address.
To call Cyrodiil anything other than a pvp zone is misleading and is a disservice to players. There are no tourists or free passes. It's up to a player's discretion if they want to let another player live or not.DAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault2 -
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@KelMy issue isnt with you trying to turn a positive light on the event, or thank anyone...its the notion that somehow PvE is in a PvP zone. Saying things like that is exactly why we're hearing "I was forced to go into Cyrodiil" or "I was on a PvE quest in Cyrodiil, I shouldn't be killed".
Just pointing out that there is no PvE in Cyrodiil...saying otherwise is a disservice to players who hear that thinking they'll be safe or don't deserve to have PvP happen in a PvP zone. Like I said, it's encouraging lambs into the lions jaws.
Your message, though while nice, is misleading.
Nothing wrong with being nice..we could use alot more of it. But....nice still doesn't change reality.
To quote myself from another thread on the same topic:
"The part you are missing is where players were camping spawn points inside the quest pickup/dropoff buildings.
You zone into the building and you are dead on arrival.
No way to fight back, no ganking, nothing, just a loading screen and then dead.
Basically the same mechanic that the resource towers used to have when they still had doors.
There is a reason why ZOS removed those doors from the towers.
I'm sorry but that has nothing to do with PvP, it's a stupid mechanic that needs to go ..."
I still stand firmly behind this, camping a spawn point and have people come out of a loading screen into a death recap has absolutely *nothing* to do with PvP vs PvE and has everything to do with a broken mechanic that needs to go.
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✭✭✭✭✭This doesn't address the issue @Kel is trying to address.
To call Cyrodiil anything other than a pvp zone is misleading and is a disservice to players. There are no tourists or free passes. It's up to a player's discretion if they want to let another player live or not.
Actually, it's Kel (and you) who don't address the issue raised by the OP in this thread:
"ZOS please fix the door and load screen ganking before week 5"
You can make excuses for your spawn camping all day if that makes you feel any better. It's still a broken mechanic though ...
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Merlight✭✭✭✭✭Basically the same mechanic that the resource towers used to have when they still had doors.
There is a reason why ZOS removed those doors from the towers.
Resource tower farms had proper counterplay, though -- you could raze the tower. Town building farms are worse, there's no way around the door.
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✭✭✭✭✭Sure all is fair in love in war, but I seen few mention if any the group of PvP players who got out of their way to make sure their faction can PvE Peace. They are the people who making the event heartwarming.
P.S ZOS please fix the door and load screen ganking before week 5.
There is no PvE in a PvP zone. A quest isn't the exclusive right of a PvE player.
A huge hint there's no PvE quests in Cyrodiil? Other players had to defend it....with PvP.
A quest in a PvP zone that gives a PvP currency reward with the expectation that PvP can happen on said quest....sounds like a PvP quest to me.
I agree, the door killing is a low blow. A easy fix is to give boxes out only for the mission board quests in your alliance safe zone. Can't be ganked turning in quests and there's no "PvE" elements to those quests, so no misunderstanding. Although, I'd still wager some will still claim it is..ya know..because it's a quest....
🙄
Edit: We, as a community, need to stop this idea that PvE exists in Cyrodiil, or there's such a thing as a "Cyrodiil tourest". It's basically leading lambs to the slaughter. You are giving out the idea a player not ready for PvP can just safely walk into Cyrodiil...without any expactaion of getting killed or ganked.
Really needs to stop.
Be prepared when you hit that travel to Cyrodiil button. You are never safe.
😂 How did my thread turn into this. I simply wanted to say thank you to silence heros I saw in action. You know add something positive to all this.
My issue isnt with you trying to turn a positive light on the event, or thank anyone...its the notion that somehow PvE is in a PvP zone. Saying things like that is exactly why we're hearing "I was forced to go into Cyrodiil" or "I was on a PvE quest in Cyrodiil, I shouldn't be killed".
Just pointing out that there is no PvE in Cyrodiil...saying otherwise is a disservice to players who hear that thinking they'll be safe or don't deserve to have PvP happen in a PvP zone. Like I said, it's encouraging lambs into the lions jaws.
Your message, though while nice, is misleading.
Nothing wrong with being nice..we could use alot more of it. But....nice still doesn't change reality.
I may have trouble spelling but my word choices are just fine. PvE means player vs Environment so yeah I knew exactly what I said. It's you guys who misunderstanding the terms. I was clear on making it clean that there was no PvE players vs PvP players but by definition there was PvP players defending players as they PvE.
It was a sweet gesture and I applaud them not because I am against PvP players pvping but cause what they did was sweet to me and I like people who defend underdogEdited by Tasear on April 24, 2019 7:07PM7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Basically the same mechanic that the resource towers used to have when they still had doors.
There is a reason why ZOS removed those doors from the towers.
Resource tower farms had proper counterplay, though -- you could raze the tower. Town building farms are worse, there's no way around the door.
In theory that was the way to handle it, in reality randoms always flipped the resource flag before you could siege down the tower.
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✭✭✭✭✭This doesn't address the issue @Kel is trying to address.
To call Cyrodiil anything other than a pvp zone is misleading and is a disservice to players. There are no tourists or free passes. It's up to a player's discretion if they want to let another player live or not.
Actually, it's Kel (and you) who don't address the issue raised by the OP in this thread:
"ZOS please fix the door and load screen ganking before week 5"
You can make excuses for your spawn camping all day if that makes you feel any better. It's still a broken mechanic though ...
Well, since I said door camping was a low blow in my first post, I haven't actually missed anything.
Still thinking theres such a thing as PvE quests in a PvP zone is misleading and will continue forum posts whining about being killed on quests in Cyrodiil.
And while door camping is low, my experience with this event was known PvE only players were some of the people DOING the camping. Just goes to show how misconceptions and misunderstandings can lead to forum hysteria.
No such thing as "doing PvE" in CyrodiilEdited by Kel on April 24, 2019 7:24PM0 -
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✭✭✭SkysOutThizeOut wrote: »Let’s be honest... not that many people are door camping. They’re not.
I don't think anyone is actually arguing against this, are they? I've seen the same small group (or the same few groups) doing this, and they're doing it constantly. So, massive number of players or not, it's happening all. the. time.
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I don't think anyone is actually arguing against this, are they? I've seen the same small group (or the same few groups) doing this, and they're doing it constantly. So, massive number of players or not, it's happening all. the. time.SkysOutThizeOut wrote: »Let’s be honest... not that many people are door camping. They’re not.
Damn you people, now i want to go and find out just how many people you can stack inside one of those buildings before the server pops a lid and goes up in smoke ...
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✭✭✭Why ZOS doesn't implement a similar "silence" system in Cyrodiil just like the one in IC is beyond me.
I can PvP and take care of myself in Cyro, but getting killed while loading screen indoor is another story.
They actually added this to the town transits already. The issue though is one of the Bruma quests takes place entirely inside the building.Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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✭In this event I have seen a lot of people that camped near cities in order to get easy kills and ap, well , I respected those people since they were good pvp players but now I know how they actually are.
I was PM-ed a lot during the event, was called bad words...just because as they say I attacked "questers".
Well in my defense (although i did not break any laws or user agreements) i can bring the following arguments:
1. These questers did not wear any "Quester" badge, it is virtually impossible to tell who's a quester and who's a ganker or who's a PvP-er.
2. Those questers that PM-ed me they are just Questers were spotted latter on flipping flags - well that is not a quest objective...it is a PvP objective.
3. Those questers usually attack you when your are outnumbered. Maybe not the questers initiate the attack but they surely will not hesitate to land the killing blow without clarifying who's the instigator.
Personally I was near the city to complete quests myself - I was friendly here and there to some players that i knew were friendly, and when there were no one in the city except us.
But as soon as there were more "questers" I had to engage every single enemy player, because if you don't reduce the number of enemies early you will be zerged down quickly few minutes later.
So please stop judging players here...better ask ZOS to stop forcing PVE-ers into PVP areas.
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2. Those questers that PM-ed me they are just Questers were spotted latter on flipping flags - well that is not a quest objective...it is a PvP objective.
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Technically speaking flipping flags on towns is a PvP objective that is also sometimes a quest.
I don't pick up the different mission quests to do them specifically while I'm in Cyrodiil. I pick them up because while I'm PvPing I may accidentally finish one of them and earn a small bonus.
Also, maybe those questers were just trying to make the town safer for their questing.1
