Would you support ZoS taking a step back to focus on QoL/Bug fixes in 2020?

Carl-lan · April 2019

No, I would prefer more new content instead of fixing what we already have.

No because I’d probably stop playing the game if there was no new content. Understand there’s bugs but doesn’t worry me too much. I’m not a hardcore player though.

eso_lags · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

yikes.. the rp is shocking. Anyway, they wont fix anything. they never fix anything.

Sp1dHQ · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

bearbelly wrote: »

Bug Fix/QoL team operates independently of Content Development team, so no.

There is a wonderful game - Rainbow Six Siege. When it was released it was garbage with somewhat same technical state as ESO. They had a roadmap with DLC content and were releasing this content into a broken game. It was on the edge of diying. Then someone smart in Ubisoft made a decision to stop releasing DLCs and perform "OPeration Health". They all focused on fixing bugs, there was no content for months. And now it is the best shooter in the world and a lot of players came back to it. But the problem in that for some unknown reason ppl mostly tend to join ESO rather than turning away form this buggy mess. So "Operation Health" for ESO will not be present...

Gythral · April 2019

Other
Continue at about the same rate for new content
& buy an EU server that is up to spec., hire a team to fix the code and QoL issues, along someone to oversee that these things get done

barney2525 · April 2019

I'm confused

Seems to me you are talking about two completely unrelated areas, and therefore two completely unrelated groups of people.

Why would you think that they would Not be working on improving performance, quite literally, All the time? Do you really think that they would Not want their product to run absolutely smoothly at all times?

Why would the devs who are working on new ideas for the future have any impact on performance issues? Do you think all Techs have the same skills and you just plug an additional X number into problem solving?

Your whole premise seems to me... and I say this with love... to be ridiculous

Are you asking them to hire more tech peeps? If so, then just say that.

I can not understand why you would think that one area has any effect on the other.

sionIV · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

New content: Instant gratification

QoL & Bug Fixes: Delayed gratification

Focusing on QoL and Bug Fixes will improve the game more in the long run, and at the end of the day, it will become a better game.

Ask yourself what is better, a 90/100 game with 2 DLC or a 74/100 game with 6 DLC.

Beardimus · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

How would they monetize it?
Hell id pay £20 for it all fixed / better QoL rather than a PvE zone i won't go to, but most wouldn't.

vesselwiththepestle · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

It would give me time to catch up, still haven't finished Murkmire.

Sp1dHQ · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

barney2525 wrote: »

I'm confused

Seems to me you are talking about two completely unrelated areas, and therefore two completely unrelated groups of people.

Why would you think that they would Not be working on improving performance, quite literally, All the time? Do you really think that they would Not want their product to run absolutely smoothly at all times?

Why would the devs who are working on new ideas for the future have any impact on performance issues? Do you think all Techs have the same skills and you just plug an additional X number into problem solving?

Your whole premise seems to me... and I say this with love... to be ridiculous

Are you asking them to hire more tech peeps? If so, then just say that.

I can not understand why you would think that one area has any effect on the other.

Man, ofc they want to improve the perfomance. But it seems that they are not competent enough to do it. Look at the pre-elsweyr stream with devs and bloggers. Devs were asked about the state of Cyrodiil fix. All they could awnser: "ohhh, it is complicated and it is ONE OF OUR MAIN FOCUS POINTS". You know what does it mean? It means that they aren't going to fix it ever! Because if they were competent devs, they would shout out 3 years ago something like this: "We are aware that Cyrodiil is unplayable in the evening, we are putting all our resources into fix!!!". The same should have been said for group finder bug, slow guild store, incredibly big ping even if you live in 10 meters from the server.

They told a week ago that they upgraded the server...yet still in the evening you can't go to BG and dungeon with out spamming 30 min F button. And devs didn't say anything about this fail. I am even ready to play with queue than this...
Do you still think that they are working on new ideas to fix perfomance?

Tandor · April 2019

No, I would prefer more new content instead of fixing what we already have.

No, for several reasons.

First, the teams working on content are very different to the ones working on so-called QoL improvements and bug fixes.

Second, I say "so-called" because one person's QoL improvement is another person's game-breaking change - as we have seen every time things like account-wide achievements get mentioned. Half the players say it's the absence of account-wide stuff that stops them rolling alts, the other half say making everything account-wide would take away the whole point of playing alts. So at the very least I'd need to know what these "QoL improvements" were going to be before accepting them in place of content.

Third, I simply don't experience bugs or performance issues on anything like the scale to warrant interrupting the development schedule, if at all. Some do, I understand that, but again I'd need to see what the bugs and other issues were and how they were going to be resolved before being convinced that it was necessary to interrupt the development schedule to deal with them.

Karmanorway · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

Only if that includes Cyrodiil and BGsfinder

kargen27 · April 2019

Where is the option where we pick both because we know the people that troubleshoot the game are not the same people that create content?

Elwendryll · April 2019

No, I would prefer more new content instead of fixing what we already have.

I want them to make stamina sorcerers unique, fun and rewarding, with a strong identity.

There is only one QoL thing I'd like that they didn't add in the game yet. Build slots. Like outfit slots but for Attribute/Skill/Champion points spent.

Androconium · April 2019

Blacknight841 wrote: »

I would pay 40$ for the next chapter consisting of nothing but QOL and bug fixes.

I wouldn't, as I HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR A WORKING GAME

NO. They can spend the money on resources to make it playable. Anything else is a cop out.

They aren't broke...

Dosuul · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

I would see such an event more as a:

Let the content creators, artists and devs revisit old zones instead of making new content.

Why not bring e.g. Cyrodiil and Carglorn into 2020, instead of making new content?

Peekachu99 · April 2019

This kind of myopic post is ignorant of how game development actually works. There are separate teams that handle QA and content creation and they’re not resource starving each other unless the management are clueless. ZoS has three platforms worth of bugs to squash, it’s not an easy job, though it certainly is thankless given how often you all are whingeing.

ESO has it’s faults and some of those may just be inherent to the engine, which is why we are where we are. Only better performing PCs (and soon consoles) can minimize performance issues.

VvardeFellow · April 2019

Yes, but would the investors?

WolfingHour · April 2019

No. I pay for content AND a functional game. What sort of precedence is this setting by even contemplating this as an option?

MikaHR · April 2019

I would be quite fine with 1 chapter and improving the game for the rest. DLC dungeons are worthless anyway so no big loss there.

Anotherone773 · April 2019

The way it should work, if Zenimax is setup like most corporations that develop software is you will have the new content team which will be Bethesda and the maintenance team which will be ZOS. Bug fixes will mostly fall to the ZOS team with probably a bit of tech support from Bethesda. Bethesda will have the experienced coders, programmers, etc. ZOS will have entry level members.

Bethesda would do most/all of the QOL improvements because it would be mostly new content. But Bethesda employees could easily be temporarily reassigned to a fix team and be assigned a group of issues that QA/QC and support should be making a running list of. This could be done as follows:

1) Chapter: Each chapter we have seen something new added. Warden, JC, Necros. The teams that work on creating this new content could instead be put on a temp team to help ZOS knock out a bunch of bugs.

2) DLC: a typical DLC shouldnt be to (new) code heavy. The size of the DLC could be reduced to a large island, a very small zone with only two new delves ( like gold coast). This would free up some more people that were still heavily used on the chapter to work on the Bethesda bug fix team.

3) The dungeon xpac could be the dungeons for the new DLC. Along with QOL and bug fixes.

4) The other patch. I dont recall what actually gets done in this patch?

Regardless they could shift some people around and get a lot fixed and we still get new content. It's all about management skills and wanting to actually fix something.

JackDaniell · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

In b4 lock

mairwen85 · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

Caveat: big fixes, streamlined gui and cleaner functionality access, UX, and ancient bugs only.

'You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter' attitude not applicable. I'd rather more content than that approach.

Odovacar · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

They would score a lot of points with us veteran players, but their goal is to get new players which requires "new upcoming content"... I still vote 100% yes to this poll though

todokete · April 2019

No, I would prefer more new content instead of fixing what we already have.

I only play for the story and I haven't seen any bugs. Just like that one where you mount standing up but that one is hilarious come on

Morgul667 · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

From all my heart

YES PLEASE

Starlock · April 2019

No, I would prefer more new content instead of fixing what we already have.

I have encountered a grand total of zero game breaking bugs. I have also encountered a grand total of zero game crippling bugs with any repeatable regularity. The only bugs I encounter on any regular basis are minor and do not even remotely justify putting the brakes on new content to address. That's been true since day one of playing this game.

"OMGs Zenimax, this audio glitch that happens with crafting must be fixed NOW! No more content until you fix it!" No. Just... no. Not asking that ever.

Ri_Khan · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

2020's a little late for me. I've already pulled my support due to a lack of QoL/bug fixes. Keep hearing "we're working on performance" over and over, yet still seeing the same consistent issues for years now.

Meanwhile there's been an article in Forbes every quarter, gushing over how successful the game is and the EU server still ends up with a log-in queue. Cute.

jcm2606 · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

Starlock wrote: »

I have encountered a grand total of zero game breaking bugs. I have also encountered a grand total of zero game crippling bugs with any repeatable regularity. The only bugs I encounter on any regular basis are minor and do not even remotely justify putting the brakes on new content to address. That's been true since day one of playing this game.

"OMGs Zenimax, this audio glitch that happens with crafting must be fixed NOW! No more content until you fix it!" No. Just... no. Not asking that ever.

Might I direct you over to the Battlegrounds section, where there's currently 7 threads on the first page detailing issues that literally make Battlegrounds unplayable? Ranging from matches failing to start even after waiting 10-15 minutes, forcing everybody to sit through a 20 minute deserter penalty, to the queue outright breaking, constantly declining itself, even though nobody actually declined.

NeillMcAttack · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

We have been here, we have done this, the answers from the community are the same. But the fact of the matter is simple. They need more money, and small changes around big marketable patches is the only way the system can be supported in this particular market. I wouldn’t get my hopes up.

Kilnerdyne · April 2019

Yes, I would be happy with QoL improvements and bug fixes instead of more content.

The Quality of Life, Performance & Bug Fixing Patch was needed in 2017.

2020 is probably too late unfortunately as the damage to company image & community perspective of the game has already been done. They were too silent in the past and are attempting resuscitation on their support in the last 4-5 months to try to say "we've been working on it all along".