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Vampires in ESO dont make sense...
mann9753b16_ESO
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Why do Vampires get STRONGER when they dont feed? Shouldnt Vampires be at their most powerful after they consumes blood?
As the Vampire system is now, drinking blood actually weakens you... Where is the logic behind that?
As the Vampire system is now, drinking blood actually weakens you... Where is the logic behind that?
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Your looking at it through a very narrow perspective.
They get weaker via taking additional flame damage when they don’t feed. Your ignoring that very important fact that.
I know of players in more casual guilds that do get trials that have been asked by theirbraid leaders to cure the vampirism because they died to much.7 -
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✭✭Hmm. I figured that Stages weren't about strength / power but more civil vs feral... since my Abilities on a few vamps didn't hit any harder or weaker based on the stages 1-4.
Outside of fire damage hurting at stages 1-2 and melts you at 3-4 if you sneeze towards a candle.
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Myrkgrav✭✭✭✭Vamp tank in any fire based dungeon succs lolMorty | ♂ | @morti_macabre | PC NA | EST
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Verbal_Earthworm✭✭✭✭✭
✭This has been brought up at least twice before and is always met with hate-mail from people who love the dark stalker passive.
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CatchMeTrolling✭✭✭✭✭
✭You never played an elder scrolls game before?Edited by CatchMeTrolling on April 23, 2019 9:54PM4 -
Davor✭✭✭✭✭
✭mann9753b16_ESO wrote: »Why do Vampires get STRONGER when they dont feed? Shouldnt Vampires be at their most powerful after they consumes blood?
As the Vampire system is now, drinking blood actually weakens you... Where is the logic behind that?
I guess it's the same reason why Dragons only have two legs.
It's their own version of it and spin of things. Like glittering vampires. Just be grateful our vampires don't glitter though we can still be out in the sun I believe. Never been a vampire yet but haven't read that vampires can't be in the sun so assume sun doesn't effect them. At least they don't glitter.
Not my quote but I love this saying
"I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"0 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@Davor - if you read Melinda Cassel's letters when she's your enchanter hireling, she talks about only being able to be out at night.2 -
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✭✭✭✭The hungrier you are, the more feral you are, the greater your blood lust -- the more dangerous you are. Having fed, you become more rested, passive and contained.
Essentially you feed to keep the guise of normality.Edited by mairwen85 on April 23, 2019 11:19PM3 -
SirAndy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ah man, i miss those days when Silver Bolts was shredding through the hordes of vamp players in Cyrodiil like a hot knife through butter.
Got my first Emp kill that way ...
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kerthas✭✭✭More the vampire miss his meal, more he get stronger because all of his sense are tenfold. Why they are tenfold? because his body need to eat fast, and so he boost himself like crazy to get what he want. But at the same time, h can't protect his weakest point, because more agressive he gets, less power he put to protect his weaker point.
It make logic actually, in a sense. There is multiple type of vampire through the myths, and this one isn't specific to elder scrolls. Its just the one less used.0 -
MrGraves✭✭✭✭More the vampire miss his meal, more he get stronger because all of his sense are tenfold. Why they are tenfold? because his body need to eat fast, and so he boost himself like crazy to get what he want. But at the same time, h can't protect his weakest point, because more agressive he gets, less power he put to protect his weaker point.
It make logic actually, in a sense. There is multiple type of vampire through the myths, and this one isn't specific to elder scrolls. Its just the one less used.
Or maybe he just stops the car bc adrenaline and not bc vampire. Totally not bc vampire.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't think I've ever drank blood in the 5 years I've been a Vampire, I always stay at level 44 -
Jameliel✭✭✭✭✭
✭Little in ESO makes sense. The devs strayed far far away from TES design. It's quite obvious there are either a lot of poorly trained employees there. Either that or an overuse of some type of intoxicants.3 -
Shievarei✭✭✭I wonder why people are blaming ESO for having this vampire feature when Oblivion and Skyrim did the same thing.6
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Nova Sky✭✭✭✭✭Little in ESO makes sense. The devs strayed far far away from TES design. It's quite obvious there are either a lot of poorly trained employees there. Either that or an overuse of some type of intoxicants.
You're THAT good, huh? Well, heck, you'd better apply for a dev job right away with Zeni. They need you, obviously!"Wheresoever you go, go with all of your heart."3 -
CipherNine✭✭✭✭✭I wonder why people are blaming ESO for having this vampire feature when Oblivion and Skyrim did the same thing.
It's because a lot of players that always yell "lore breaking" or saying something don't make sense often have no clue about the lore to begin with.Edited by CipherNine on April 24, 2019 12:36AMPC-NA
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TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
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...probably its a "starved animal will be more vicious then a well fed one" thing... note that their weakness ALSO inceases as well!mann9753b16_ESO wrote: »Why do Vampires get STRONGER when they dont feed?
The way I see it, the better fed they are they closer they get to mortal, and the more starved they are the closer they get to bestial undead. With both their supernatural strengths and supernatural weaknesses becoming more pronounced.
Makes sense to me!
That being said... I still think there should be some more drawbacks to it. Like... a chance of auto-attacking wandering bloodbags (aka, innocent civilians) if you walk into town all blood-starved and such... and possibly even more stages that come with actual stat-loss detoriation to remind people that vampires kinda have to drink blood to survive (its their thing).1 -
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✭Ah man, i miss those days when Silver Bolts was shredding through the hordes of vamp players in Cyrodiil like a hot knife through butter.
Got my first Emp kill that way ...
Ahh those were the days. I still remember the cries of a VR16 DK Emperor in the forums, when a VR14 Templar two shoot him
And his argument was that "Usually as Emperor takes more than 20 people to kill me". Hahahah
However after the nerf, the best go to skill was Turn Undead. Was funny to see them running scared pulled back by the Leash.
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✭✭✭✭✭think of it this way, they get first stronger than weaker because the hungrier they get the more relentless, focused and savage they get until the point where there strength starts diminishing...
There is real life counter parts to that as well - think about extreme examples of animals that consum large meals infrequently such as snakes - they are very lethartic after they ate and not aggressive at all cause they need all their power to digest...
I don't know if you are familiar with the concept of intermittent fasting (not eating for extended periods of times) - which i am doing...and from personal experience i can tell you, that not eating for a period of time doesi increase your mental alertness and overall readiness state and has 0 negative impact on your physical performance - for me up to about 24 hours of not eating, afterwards it does... but after eating a big meal im incredibly tired and have 0 energy up to a day later depending on the meals composition.1 -
CatchMeTrolling✭✭✭✭✭
✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »Ah man, i miss those days when Silver Bolts was shredding through the hordes of vamp players in Cyrodiil like a hot knife through butter.
Got my first Emp kill that way ...
Ahh those were the days. I still remember the cries of a VR16 DK Emperor in the forums, when a VR14 Templar two shoot him
And his argument was that "Usually as Emperor takes more than 20 people to kill me". Hahahah
However after the nerf, the best go to skill was Turn Undead. Was funny to see them running scared pulled back by the Leash.
Ahh glorious days
It wasn’t a nerf, it was a fix to a bug so anyone using it was knowingly exploiting the bug.
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p_tsakirisb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭CatchMeTrolling wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »Ah man, i miss those days when Silver Bolts was shredding through the hordes of vamp players in Cyrodiil like a hot knife through butter.
Got my first Emp kill that way ...
Ahh those were the days. I still remember the cries of a VR16 DK Emperor in the forums, when a VR14 Templar two shoot him
And his argument was that "Usually as Emperor takes more than 20 people to kill me". Hahahah
However after the nerf, the best go to skill was Turn Undead. Was funny to see them running scared pulled back by the Leash.
Ahh glorious days
It wasn’t a nerf, it was a fix to a bug so anyone using it was knowingly exploiting the bug.
The bug existed before the May 2014 update. Many like myself, didn't hit VR10+ until June.
Due to another bug added by the May update, making trash mobs having max resistance in VR areas.
By that point the idea was to use Cammo Hunter + High Crit Build + Mark and then use the crossbow.
The damage on Vampires was really high that took just 1 more shot to kill them by the time realized what happened.Edited by p_tsakirisb16_ESO on April 24, 2019 6:03AM1 -
CatchMeTrolling✭✭✭✭✭
✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »CatchMeTrolling wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »Ah man, i miss those days when Silver Bolts was shredding through the hordes of vamp players in Cyrodiil like a hot knife through butter.
Got my first Emp kill that way ...
Ahh those were the days. I still remember the cries of a VR16 DK Emperor in the forums, when a VR14 Templar two shoot him
And his argument was that "Usually as Emperor takes more than 20 people to kill me". Hahahah
However after the nerf, the best go to skill was Turn Undead. Was funny to see them running scared pulled back by the Leash.
Ahh glorious days
It wasn’t a nerf, it was a fix to a bug so anyone using it was knowingly exploiting the bug.
The bug existed before the May 2014 update. Many like myself, didn't hit VR10+ until June.
Due to another bug added by the May update, making trash mobs having max resistance in VR areas.
By that point the idea was to use Cammo Hunter + High Crit Build + Mark and then use the crossbow.
The damage on Vampires was really high that took just 1 more shot to kill them by the time realized what happened.
Camo hunter was bugged too. Can simply search on the forums and several threads will pop up.
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FlyingSwan✭✭✭✭✭We're talking about a game where a heavy attack with a massive sword somehow restores stamina, rather than depletes it. So I'd say the rules of planet Earth do not apply.4
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✭Little in ESO makes sense. The devs strayed far far away from TES design. It's quite obvious there are either a lot of poorly trained employees there. Either that or an overuse of some type of intoxicants.
Vampires were introduced in Morrowind's Tribunal.
Werewolves came with Bloodmoon.
They were popular with The Sims at the time, so everyone copied them.
See Vvardvark for useless, lore-breaking results of the aforementioned intoxicant abuse.0 -
mlstevens42_ESO✭✭✭Morrowind was not the first introduction to vampirism or were critters. I remember in Daggerfall ending up being a vampire a werewolf and even a wereboar if I wasn't careful.0
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✭mann9753b16_ESO wrote: »Why do Vampires get STRONGER when they dont feed? Shouldnt Vampires be at their most powerful after they consumes blood?
As the Vampire system is now, drinking blood actually weakens you... Where is the logic behind that?
Google vampirism and read some before you post.
And no, i dont mean twilight.....
And even in twilight newborns are stronger. Because uncontrolable and feral.
Feeding balance vampire. Hunger makes him feral.0
