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DLM✭✭✭✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »*yawns*
These threads are becoming tiresome! If you don't like PVP, just skip this week's event. Use your event tickets to buy style pieces, if that's what you are after.
And just so you know........I am mostly a solo PVE'er but I believe that when you go to Cyrodiil for anything, you should be prepared to fight or die. Cyrodiil can be fun as long as you don't take getting killed personally.
Tell me you are not serious. Please.
14 tickets a week. 1 berry takes 10. That leaves 4 tickets for the week, not even enough to purchase 1 page.
Once again the devs show they are completely clueless. Screw PvP.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭you know... you'd think pvp players would take this as an opportunity to show pve players how FUN pvp could be, but nope. lets confirm every single bias pve players have and discourage them from ever joining again, thus thinning the ranks of potential pvpers even more.
sigh.
personaly just like during midyear mayhem, personaly I'm sticking to battlegrounds. at least those are over quickly and 2 out of 3 daily quests don't even require winning anything, so at least trolls ability to waste my time is greatly diminished.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***12 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »*yawns*
These threads are becoming tiresome! If you don't like PVP, just skip this week's event. Use your event tickets to buy style pieces, if that's what you are after.
And just so you know........I am mostly a solo PVE'er but I believe that when you go to Cyrodiil for anything, you should be prepared to fight or die. Cyrodiil can be fun as long as you don't take getting killed personally.
Tell me you are not serious. Please.
14 tickets a week. 1 berry takes 10. That leaves 4 tickets for the week, not even enough to purchase 1 page.
Once again the devs show they are completely clueless. Screw PvP.
oh no, they are anything but clueless. notice the tickets sold in crown store? yep.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***1 -
Hoolielulu✭✭✭✭✭God I love PVP. It's fun as hell.
Just because someone is alone doesn't mean they're strictly a PVEer. Plenty of PVPers get caught alone out there. No one knows or cares. If you're not of their alliance you're dead. You're in a PVP zone.0 -
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✭✭you know... you'd think pvp players would take this as an opportunity to show pve players how FUN pvp could be, but nope. lets confirm every single bias pve players have and discourage them from ever joining again, thus thinning the ranks of potential pvpers even more.
sigh.
personaly just like during midyear mayhem, personaly I'm sticking to battlegrounds. at least those are over quickly and 2 out of 3 daily quests don't even require winning anything, so at least trolls ability to waste my time is greatly diminished.
In PVE you get kicked from a group if you can't do enough DPS or don't know boss mechanics yet on a fight. Well welcome to our world, where you will die if you do not know how to burst or survive.
Cheers!4 -
taco_suave✭✭Maybe if the PVE community weren't always such *** to pvp'ers, they wouldn't be grinding you up like sausage right now. Karma is a B.3
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DLM✭✭✭✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »*yawns*
These threads are becoming tiresome! If you don't like PVP, just skip this week's event. Use your event tickets to buy style pieces, if that's what you are after.
And just so you know........I am mostly a solo PVE'er but I believe that when you go to Cyrodiil for anything, you should be prepared to fight or die. Cyrodiil can be fun as long as you don't take getting killed personally.
Tell me you are not serious. Please.
14 tickets a week. 1 berry takes 10. That leaves 4 tickets for the week, not even enough to purchase 1 page.
Once again the devs show they are completely clueless. Screw PvP.
oh no, they are anything but clueless. notice the tickets sold in crown store? yep.
I was mentioning they were clueless because like almost every MMO out there they are convinced that forcing people into a playstyle is going to work, it never does. The vast majority of PvErs don't want to have anything to do with PvP, forcing them to PvP to obtain some reward is never going to entice them to play that part of the game, on the contrary it will only validate their hate. The same applies to PvPers who just want to spend their time in Cyro/BGs.
The whole event should have been designed as Week #5, especially for something like an anniversary. Do whatever you like/want, get rewards.Edited by DLM on April 18, 2019 11:46PM3 -
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✭RoyalPink06 wrote: »Yes, an event that guarantees the trolling of PvE-ers by *** PvPers who won’t let us hand in our f***** quests. Yep, great plan. We just want our loot boxes. Leave us alone.
You do understand now why we are supporting the upcoming nerfs to Nightblades?
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Goregrinder wrote: »you know... you'd think pvp players would take this as an opportunity to show pve players how FUN pvp could be, but nope. lets confirm every single bias pve players have and discourage them from ever joining again, thus thinning the ranks of potential pvpers even more.
sigh.
personaly just like during midyear mayhem, personaly I'm sticking to battlegrounds. at least those are over quickly and 2 out of 3 daily quests don't even require winning anything, so at least trolls ability to waste my time is greatly diminished.
In PVE you get kicked from a group if you can't do enough DPS or don't know boss mechanics yet on a fight. Well welcome to our world, where you will die if you do not know how to burst or survive.
Cheers!
I never defended the elitist attitudes that some pve players exibit. in fact I have stated numerous times just how crappy they are for exactly the same reasons.
however. its not about burst. its about ganking people while they are in conversation with npc so they do not have TIME to defend themselves. its about waiting for just the absolute worst moment to attack someone and waste their time. its about deliberately trying to make someone's time in game worse and then shrugging it off with excuse "that's just pvp"
YOU, people who do this - are the reason why there are so few people are going anywhere near Cyrodill outside of pvp events.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***11 -
Ahlteffour✭✭✭This is a PVP event no? If you can't handle getting killed by other players who are likely more skilled then perhaps it's best to do one of two things.
A ) learn PVP, try battlegrounds with a group, might have a better time
B ) skip the event.
Either way, complaining about the event is stupid. Every week has a theme, you should expect the respective difficulty with the theme of the week.Edited by Ahlteffour on April 18, 2019 11:49PM"Anyone can identify a problem. It takes hard work, dedication, patience and understanding to be a positive part of the solution"1 -
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✭Luckily this set of pages have a pretty decent drop rate so there won't be much punishment for PVEers after allPC/DC/NAserver
V16 sorc - V16 temp - V16 dk - V1 nb - V1 temp - V1 dk0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »*yawns*
These threads are becoming tiresome! If you don't like PVP, just skip this week's event. Use your event tickets to buy style pieces, if that's what you are after.
And just so you know........I am mostly a solo PVE'er but I believe that when you go to Cyrodiil for anything, you should be prepared to fight or die. Cyrodiil can be fun as long as you don't take getting killed personally.
Tell me you are not serious. Please.
14 tickets a week. 1 berry takes 10. That leaves 4 tickets for the week, not even enough to purchase 1 page.
Once again the devs show they are completely clueless. Screw PvP.
oh no, they are anything but clueless. notice the tickets sold in crown store? yep.
I was mentioning they were clueless because like almost every MMO out there they are convinced that forcing people into a playstyle is going to work, it never does. The vast majority of PvErs don't want to have anything to do with PvP, forcing them to PvP to obtain some reward is never going to entice them to play that part of the game, on the contrary it will only validate their hate. The same applies to PvPers who just want to spend their time in Cyro/BGs.
The whole event should have been designed as Week #5, especially for something like an anniversary. Do whatever you like/want, get rewards.
oh in that regard.. yeah. and I agree that it would have been better if all of the event worked like week 5. however... the scarcity of tickets? pretty sure is designed this way to not so subtly nudge people into crown store.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***2 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I refuse to pvp, after spending months doing so in a friend's guild in WoW. Ugh. Nope. Never going there again. So I just give the pvp stuff a miss, and don't agonize over it. The only things I want from this quarter are the Indrik pet, and the Sai gear. I can do those with eating cake every day.
Works for me.
[BTW, those months in the friend's guild, on the pvp server? Yeah, I "got gud" - and I HATED EVERY MINUTE OF IT.]3 -
SFDB✭✭✭✭✭
✭These events were created to serve as annual reminders of how everyone who says that mandatory open world PVP mechanics won't be abused are either bald-faced liars or shockingly stupid.
It's here so that the next time someone suggests "PVP Justice System!" or "PVP Bounty Hunting!" is fine because no one will ever grief you, we can just point to the several dozen threads like these and say, "It won't work, you ignorant fool."4 -
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It's not about wanting to make someone's time in the game worse, but more about high stakes pvp, which is very alluring. You go to a town to try and complete a quest, but there's people who will try to stop you. It's the same reason I fell in love with IC and the loss of tel var upon death.Goregrinder wrote: »you know... you'd think pvp players would take this as an opportunity to show pve players how FUN pvp could be, but nope. lets confirm every single bias pve players have and discourage them from ever joining again, thus thinning the ranks of potential pvpers even more.
sigh.
personaly just like during midyear mayhem, personaly I'm sticking to battlegrounds. at least those are over quickly and 2 out of 3 daily quests don't even require winning anything, so at least trolls ability to waste my time is greatly diminished.
In PVE you get kicked from a group if you can't do enough DPS or don't know boss mechanics yet on a fight. Well welcome to our world, where you will die if you do not know how to burst or survive.
Cheers!
however. its not about burst. its about ganking people while they are in conversation with npc so they do not have TIME to defend themselves. its about waiting for just the absolute worst moment to attack someone and waste their time. its about deliberately trying to make someone's time in game worse and then shrugging it off with excuse "that's just pvp"
These events are probably the most exciting thing to happen in Cyrodiil, and we will make the most of it before it's gone.
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I think all the bad treatment from ZOS over the years have left PvPers feeling nothing but resentment when it comes to their favourite children, the PvErs.I'm having so much fun denying people quests in those pvp zones it's the best fun I've had in such a long time :')
So when events like this crop up in Cyrodiil or IC, we're out for blood.
Nah, there's always been a subset of pvpers ("griefers", bullies, pull-the-wings-off-flies types) who've gleefully screwed with other people - the more helpless the better - in MMOs. There were plenty of them in WoW all the way back to vanilla. It doesn't take "devs treat pvpers badly" to get them going. /shrug
(I remember the ones who would flag up for pvp on a pve WoW server, then go cluster around major questgivers in popular multifaction zones - so that people trying to access the questgiver would accidentally "attack" them, and then get slaughtered by the NPC guards who were there to enforce the multifaction neutrality. Bonus points for it being a "PvE" death, so gear took a durability hit.)
edit: I'm just skipping this week. But I was always planning on that (I skip Midyear Mayhem, too), and will buy the one or two Tharn pages I'm interested in from the event vendor. Gotta do something with all these tickets....Edited by Kiralyn2000 on April 19, 2019 12:58AM2 -
Sirona_Starr✭✭✭✭✭I've read on the forums pvp is dying many times. Nothing like making it die a little faster when the pve players come in to do an event and are seen as meat for slaughter - way to ensure the population doesn't grow. Last year, I saw cooperation in trying to do the quests. Reading the posts on the forums today........ okay, fine...... reads like the PVP players plan is just to smash PVE trying to do town quests......... which, really is a PVE activity in a PVP zone, much like Battlegrounds is a PVP activity in a PVE zone.
The suggestions of cobbling together a PVP build - which would include spending a fair amount of coin, for a one week event questing in towns, makes no sense. How do you cobble together the skills required? can't buy them. Probably would be fairly difficult to buy the PVP armour too, or fairly pricey.
Yes, I'll pass on the boxes, too bad.... enjoy your easy smashing....... kind of pathetic, really.
In point of fact, Battlegrounds exist in PVE, but are isolated as a PVP area. Perhaps in Cyrodil, the towns should be isolated as a PVE area. That makes sense, no?
Edited by Sirona_Starr on April 19, 2019 1:12AM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Goregrinder wrote: »you know... you'd think pvp players would take this as an opportunity to show pve players how FUN pvp could be, but nope. lets confirm every single bias pve players have and discourage them from ever joining again, thus thinning the ranks of potential pvpers even more.
sigh.
personaly just like during midyear mayhem, personaly I'm sticking to battlegrounds. at least those are over quickly and 2 out of 3 daily quests don't even require winning anything, so at least trolls ability to waste my time is greatly diminished.
In PVE you get kicked from a group if you can't do enough DPS or don't know boss mechanics yet on a fight. Well welcome to our world, where you will die if you do not know how to burst or survive.
Cheers!
I never defended the elitist attitudes that some pve players exibit. in fact I have stated numerous times just how crappy they are for exactly the same reasons.
however. its not about burst. its about ganking people while they are in conversation with npc so they do not have TIME to defend themselves. its about waiting for just the absolute worst moment to attack someone and waste their time. its about deliberately trying to make someone's time in game worse and then shrugging it off with excuse "that's just pvp"
YOU, people who do this - are the reason why there are so few people are going anywhere near Cyrodill outside of pvp events.
Seriously, who turns in quests to town NPCs outside of events? I've done it once. For the achievement.
I mean, I could see complaining about getting ganked off your mount, but outside of events the vast majority of players do PVP as usual, and that includes the gankers, who find better prey running behind the faction zerg from keep to keep.
I figure the actual reason is more like "There's an awful lot of PVEers who say they hate PVP, but not so much that they'll pass up the chance to get shiny reward boxes. Once the shiny reward boxes are gone, so are they."
Sort of like me and the Delves/WB dailies last week. Normally, I don't touch those with a ten foot pole. Last week? I typed "G", "CAAN" and "BK" along with everyone else in Summerset zone chat.1 -
FuriousStar✭✭✭When in doubt, call out in zone chat for enforcers. There's plenty of players on your alliance also looking to kill other players, better they're on your side.3 -
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✭✭Goregrinder wrote: »you know... you'd think pvp players would take this as an opportunity to show pve players how FUN pvp could be, but nope. lets confirm every single bias pve players have and discourage them from ever joining again, thus thinning the ranks of potential pvpers even more.
sigh.
personaly just like during midyear mayhem, personaly I'm sticking to battlegrounds. at least those are over quickly and 2 out of 3 daily quests don't even require winning anything, so at least trolls ability to waste my time is greatly diminished.
In PVE you get kicked from a group if you can't do enough DPS or don't know boss mechanics yet on a fight. Well welcome to our world, where you will die if you do not know how to burst or survive.
Cheers!
YOU, people who do this - are the reason why there are so few people are going anywhere near Cyrodill outside of pvp events.
It's called pvp for a reason. Do you expect us to hold their hand while they are doing quests or what?
They can either stay in the easy mode called pve or try to improve and be good at both pve and pvp.
Every pvper here has been absolutely destroyed the first days in Cyro, but that didn't stop them.2 -
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Truth. I remember last year some new players were grinding CP in Cracked Wood Cave and called out in zone that people were camping it and killing them continuously.FuriousStar wrote: »When in doubt, call out in zone chat for enforcers. There's plenty of players on your alliance also looking to kill other players, better they're on your side.
Like 15 DC players rode out there and wiped them in 3 seconds. Having cause for a fight will draw players to any part of the map. This event is no exception. A lot of us are bored of keep fights, so if you need help in the towns just call out, and I have no doubt that somebody will come.1 -
NupidStoob✭✭✭✭✭Last year there were a bunch of us that would hunt the gankers to protect the PvErs. Am not so much into PvP atm, but I am sure this will be a thing again.
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✭✭I ganked the PvPers and PvEers, because every time I tried to do the quests like intended, I got zerged down by either a PvP zergball or a PvE zergball. I got only 3 boxes with 1 page tonight.
Guess what, doing the former was more rewarding than the latter.
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✭✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »*yawns*
These threads are becoming tiresome! If you don't like PVP, just skip this week's event. Use your event tickets to buy style pieces, if that's what you are after.
And just so you know........I am mostly a solo PVE'er but I believe that when you go to Cyrodiil for anything, you should be prepared to fight or die. Cyrodiil can be fun as long as you don't take getting killed personally.
Tell me you are not serious. Please.
14 tickets a week. 1 berry takes 10. That leaves 4 tickets for the week, not even enough to purchase 1 page.
Once again the devs show they are completely clueless. Screw PvP.
oh no, they are anything but clueless. notice the tickets sold in crown store? yep.
Why would any sane person buy tickets with crowns when they can just as easily buy the style pages dirt cheap in guild stores or just wait for week 5 and get everything from crafting writs?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »
I think all the bad treatment from ZOS over the years have left PvPers feeling nothing but resentment when it comes to their favourite children, the PvErs.I'm having so much fun denying people quests in those pvp zones it's the best fun I've had in such a long time :')
So when events like this crop up in Cyrodiil or IC, we're out for blood.
Nah, there's always been a subset of pvpers ("griefers", bullies, pull-the-wings-off-flies types) who've gleefully screwed with other people - the more helpless the better - in MMOs. There were plenty of them in WoW all the way back to vanilla. It doesn't take "devs treat pvpers badly" to get them going. /shrug
(I remember the ones who would flag up for pvp on a pve WoW server, then go cluster around major questgivers in popular multifaction zones - so that people trying to access the questgiver would accidentally "attack" them, and then get slaughtered by the NPC guards who were there to enforce the multifaction neutrality. Bonus points for it being a "PvE" death, so gear took a durability hit.)
edit: I'm just skipping this week. But I was always planning on that (I skip Midyear Mayhem, too), and will buy the one or two Tharn pages I'm interested in from the event vendor. Gotta do something with all these tickets....
Yeah. We have the same memories there. At least in ESO, no one can actually kill the quest givers and vendors. Man the times I got steamed over that sort of crap in WoW and RIFT.... Seriously, why do people think that's fun? Obviously just to make others NOT have fun. Ugh. Hate the world today. Serious.
I think.... I'm too old. Now, 70+ isn't exactly old today. But.... in some ways.... I'm just too old.
As far as pvp stuff... yep, I'm skipping it for obvious reasons.1 -
rynth✭✭✭✭✭RoyalPink06 wrote: »Yes, an event that guarantees the trolling of PvE-ers by *** PvPers who won’t let us hand in our f***** quests. Yep, great plan. We just want our loot boxes. Leave us alone.
And all the other events pvp people have to put up with for pve stuff? What live with it if you don’t like it don’t participate. If you have not noticed each week they have been touching on different aspects of the game.
When asked what he would do for a Klondike bar. Grand Moff Tarkin said "why I would blow up Alderaan."0 -
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It's not about wanting to make someone's time in the game worse, but more about high stakes pvp, which is very alluring. You go to a town to try and complete a quest, but there's people who will try to stop you. It's the same reason I fell in love with IC and the loss of tel var upon death.Goregrinder wrote: »you know... you'd think pvp players would take this as an opportunity to show pve players how FUN pvp could be, but nope. lets confirm every single bias pve players have and discourage them from ever joining again, thus thinning the ranks of potential pvpers even more.
sigh.
personaly just like during midyear mayhem, personaly I'm sticking to battlegrounds. at least those are over quickly and 2 out of 3 daily quests don't even require winning anything, so at least trolls ability to waste my time is greatly diminished.
In PVE you get kicked from a group if you can't do enough DPS or don't know boss mechanics yet on a fight. Well welcome to our world, where you will die if you do not know how to burst or survive.
Cheers!
however. its not about burst. its about ganking people while they are in conversation with npc so they do not have TIME to defend themselves. its about waiting for just the absolute worst moment to attack someone and waste their time. its about deliberately trying to make someone's time in game worse and then shrugging it off with excuse "that's just pvp"
These events are probably the most exciting thing to happen in Cyrodiil, and we will make the most of it before it's gone.
there is NOTHING high stakes about attacking someone at a moment where they cannot fight back.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***2 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »*yawns*
These threads are becoming tiresome! If you don't like PVP, just skip this week's event. Use your event tickets to buy style pieces, if that's what you are after.
And just so you know........I am mostly a solo PVE'er but I believe that when you go to Cyrodiil for anything, you should be prepared to fight or die. Cyrodiil can be fun as long as you don't take getting killed personally.
Tell me you are not serious. Please.
14 tickets a week. 1 berry takes 10. That leaves 4 tickets for the week, not even enough to purchase 1 page.
Once again the devs show they are completely clueless. Screw PvP.
oh no, they are anything but clueless. notice the tickets sold in crown store? yep.
Why would any sane person buy tickets with crowns when they can just as easily buy the style pages dirt cheap in guild stores or just wait for week 5 and get everything from crafting writs?
for the same reason people buy riding lessons, and heck - crafting styles/houses from crown store, even the ones that are not store exclusive and technically should be fairly inexpensive.
as hard as it may seem to believe, but there are a lot of people who don't have a lot of gold. or time.
even with crafting - not everyone is going to craft all the things on multiple alts.
dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***1
