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What are the chances of not getting an inferno maelstrom staff after 60ish runs?
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Maggi12✭✭✭What thoughts i have got after reading such posts.
1) Make vMA weapon parts (or smth) as reward (quest item or currency). Each vMA completion will reward us 2-20 pieces of wepon, depending on score. And later we could exchange them for required weapon. 1 weapon = 100 pieces. or less, depends on achievements you got.
2) remove random from final chest. and let system loop through all weapon types each time you open the chest. for ex: 1-st completion you can get a bow. Next: 1-h and shield. Next: ice staff. etc.... until you pass all weapon types.
3) keep track of the final chest rewards and implement a "statistical", fair random. It could be 3-4 tries per each weapon. And worst case is: 4 * max_weapon_types (6) = 24 tries, which is NOT 60, NOT 200, just 24...Edited by Maggi12 on April 18, 2019 11:13AM2 -
Parthrax0923✭✭✭What thoughts i have got after reading such posts.
1) Make vMA weapon parts (or smth) as reward (quest item or currency). Each vMA completion will reward us 2-20 pieces of wepon, depending on score. And later we could exchange them for required weapon. 1 weapon = 100 pieces. or less, depends on achievements you got.
2) remove random from final chest. and let system loop through all weapon types each time you open the chest. for ex: 1-st completion you can get a bow. Next: 1-h and shield. Next: ice staff. etc.... until you pass all weapon types.
3) keep track of the final chest rewards and implement a "statistical", fair random. It could be 3-4 tries per each weapon. And worst case is: 4 * max_weapon_types (6) = 24 tries, which is NOT 60, NOT 200, just 24...
That’d be super awesome.Fus Ro Dah!0 -
Artim_X✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭100+ runs. I was doing it twice a day for months. Got 4+ of every single weapon before the spicy one dropped. Eventually I got a second one. Praise Seht for his gift of transmutation
(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭2 in less than 10 runs, first run ever was a nirn bow.
Sing it with me... RNG RNG... PLEASE GIVE ME WHAT I NEED!0 -
Fvh09NL✭✭✭Got my sharpened (was still the best trait back then) inferno in like 48 runs and immediately stopped; in the meanwhile, I got like 8 in other traits in total. So for me, it wasn't too bad.0 -
rotaugen454✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Are there 12 different weapons that can appear( ignoring trait)? If so, the odds of running 60 times and NOT getting a specific one of the 12 would be .54%."Get off my lawn!"0 -
Starlight_Knight✭✭✭✭✭
✭i've had a bow last 5 runs i did and then got another bow in the post from the leader board reward.
No staff, but bows seem very easy lol0 -
Jawshoeuh✭✭✭Thankfully I was blessed with my infused inferno on my very first VMA completion... it was everything I could have hoped for
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david_m_18b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Parthrax0923 wrote: »reading all of this depresses me LOL. So the staff has a lower chance of dropping than other items? That's sorta messed up.
Thats why the tokens in WoW are nice. Each run give you tokens wich you can spend to buy the stuff you've been unlucky to get.
Lets say a run could give you 5 token and staff price would be 100 token, So fi you've been un-lucky enought to not get one after 25 runs you could buy it.
Well I,ve just pulled randoms numbers.
The purpose is to not make something to too toxic to do. I mean if you've been able to complete vMA 100 times, having you run it another 100 times just bcuz of RNG is a bit silly.0 -
rumple9✭✭✭✭✭
✭After all this time VMA needs a token system.
However we are just over 3 months away from wrothgar event and double drops1 -
Icy_Waffles✭✭✭✭✭
✭I ran it last double drop event and first drop was inferno and how. I hadn’t to run a couple more times to get the OTHER items just to have them.
Hope your luck changes!0 -
MooseKnuckles88✭✭✭✭I've gotten two, first one was after my 13th clear, the second came the same week out of a weekly reward. Haven't tried again since. I agree with the poster saying to farm during Wrothgar event, but that's easy for me to say since I already have a couple. I wish you luck and persistence pays. Keep going.0
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BooPerScOOper✭✭✭What thoughts i have got after reading such posts.
1) Make vMA weapon parts (or smth) as reward (quest item or currency). Each vMA completion will reward us 2-20 pieces of wepon, depending on score. And later we could exchange them for required weapon. 1 weapon = 100 pieces. or less, depends on achievements you got.
2) remove random from final chest. and let system loop through all weapon types each time you open the chest. for ex: 1-st completion you can get a bow. Next: 1-h and shield. Next: ice staff. etc.... until you pass all weapon types.
3) keep track of the final chest rewards and implement a "statistical", fair random. It could be 3-4 tries per each weapon. And worst case is: 4 * max_weapon_types (6) = 24 tries, which is NOT 60, NOT 200, just 24...
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Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many Inferno Staves (and actually all kinds of weapons). That being said, I did run vMA a lot, not for the loot but for the 600k. Once I got that, I kinda stopped.@ Izaki #PCEU
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#MoreDPSthanYou
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Girl_Number8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I wanted something else and got my inferno staff on my 1st run. What I wanted took me over 38 runs before I got it. But I enjoy doing vMA to relax, so I do it every week at the minimum. I don't really care about the weapons too much tbh. Though you will get it OP just keep at it. Gets easier with continuity, as do most things. 1 -
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I'm 100% for a system like this even though I've done hundreds of VMA runs and have multiples of every weapon type. The current system is just soul crushing. No need for newer players to suffer the same BS.What thoughts i have got after reading such posts.
1) Make vMA weapon parts (or smth) as reward (quest item or currency). Each vMA completion will reward us 2-20 pieces of wepon, depending on score. And later we could exchange them for required weapon. 1 weapon = 100 pieces. or less, depends on achievements you got.
2) remove random from final chest. and let system loop through all weapon types each time you open the chest. for ex: 1-st completion you can get a bow. Next: 1-h and shield. Next: ice staff. etc.... until you pass all weapon types.
3) keep track of the final chest rewards and implement a "statistical", fair random. It could be 3-4 tries per each weapon. And worst case is: 4 * max_weapon_types (6) = 24 tries, which is NOT 60, NOT 200, just 24...
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Grandma✭✭✭✭✭I ran it for weeks and gave up and vowed to never return until the 2x event.GH / 3/04/2021 / Elemental Catalyst Necromancer0 -
I made countless runs on my account and never seen inferno staff. Went vMA on my gf account and do u know what was the first item I got her? Yes, that's right, inferno vma staff....0
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Caligamy_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Parthrax0923 wrote: »I'm getting tired lol! I dread every single arena but I want the staff so bad.
How long did it take you guys to get the staff?
Haven't got one yet.. getting pretty close to that flawless title though lol.. if the mushrooms would stop screwing me over.love is love0 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Got 2 inferno staves and 2 bows in last month, though i was trying to get dual daggers, and still after several dozens of runs I don't get not only daggers but any dual wield pair at all.0 -
LeagueTroll✭✭✭✭✭The true probability of getting an inferno is somewhere from 1/15 to 1/25 per run. So not getting any after 60 runs is somewhere from 1.6% to 8.7%0
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Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭There is 1/6 chance to get a destro then a 1/3 chance that that destro is a fire staff, so the is a ~5% chance that you will get a fire staff in a single run.
I stopped running vMA, other then when it is double drops, when I realized that there was around the same chance to get what I wanted as the failure rate on my girlfriends birth control. Though this was before trait changing though, it was something like a .6% chance to get a Sharpened fire staff.0 -
r34lian✭✭✭✭✭
✭Got my sharpened inferno staff yesterday now if only I can get bow then bye bye vMA2000 CP • 18 Maxed Characters • 6 Altmers • 7 Redguards • Necromancer Orc • Warden Dunmer • DK Nord • DK Imperial • Templar Breton0 -
laksikus✭✭✭✭✭
✭it took me aramound 100 runs to get my first destro and ut was a ice staff. took me abozt 120 fir fire staff back in the day. andvtgen it wasnt sharp so i shoukd gave contunued but i said *** it im using tge charged one0
