Knootewoot wrote: »Player 1 hates PvP (with a passion i hear a lot)
Player 2 loves PvP.
Evil corporate puts fluffy stuff in PvP
Player 1 plays PvP
Player 2 sits with his thumb up his ass
Taleof2Cities wrote: »Remember that PvP players have to endure the Undaunted Mettle grind. It goes both ways (even though your tunnel vision may not immediately see it).
Taleof2Cities wrote: »Remember that PvP players have to endure the Undaunted Mettle grind. It goes both ways (even though your tunnel vision may not immediately see it).
Tell me about it, after 5 years I'm still nto even rank 7
Not to mention the horrible monster set grind to be competitive in PvP, what were they thinking.
KappaKid83 wrote: »I actually agree with OP. We run a small man group, 6-10 players, 5 nights a week with Wednesdays and Fridays off and we are actually going to take a break tonight and look at the PTS to avoid this mess.Taleof2Cities wrote: »Remember that PvP players have to endure the Undaunted Mettle grind. It goes both ways (even though your tunnel vision may not immediately see it).
Tell me about it, after 5 years I'm still nto even rank 7
Not to mention the horrible monster set grind to be competitive in PvP, what were they thinking.
Also, can not agree with this more. You have to PVE to be able to PVP at a high level but not Vice Versa, pretty frustrating.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »Thanks for the productive discussion.
Remember that PvP players have to endure the Undaunted Mettle grind. It goes both ways (even though your tunnel vision may not immediately see it).
kringled_1 wrote: »I think the OP was more complaining that regular PvP players are locked out of Cyrodiil due to the queue.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »Thanks for the productive discussion.
Remember that PvP players have to endure the Undaunted Mettle grind. It goes both ways (even though your tunnel vision may not immediately see it).
Aelakhaii_De_Mythos wrote: »lmfao at the people saying they need to do pvp to be able to do pve (vigor, caltrops etc)
it takes 1/100 the time for the worst player to get vigor nowadays compared to get undaunted mettle.
Knootewoot wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Thanks for the productive discussion.
Remember that PvP players have to endure the Undaunted Mettle grind. It goes both ways (even though your tunnel vision may not immediately see it).
I think you and some others misread, or my English is very bad.
I want to PvP because i love it. But i can't get in because it's filled with PvE peasants.

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »Aelakhaii_De_Mythos wrote: »lmfao at the people saying they need to do pvp to be able to do pve (vigor, caltrops etc)
it takes 1/100 the time for the worst player to get vigor nowadays compared to get undaunted mettle.
LOL, I remember back in the day, (little over 2 years ago), you had to endure getting your butt stomped for 2 or 3 weeks to level up enough in PvP rank to get vigor or caltrops. Now it can be done in a few hours.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »Thanks for the productive discussion.
Remember that PvP players have to endure the Undaunted Mettle grind. It goes both ways (even though your tunnel vision may not immediately see it).
Except that PvEers don't go around ganking PvPers while they do pledges.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »Thanks for the productive discussion.
Remember that PvP players have to endure the Undaunted Mettle grind. It goes both ways (even though your tunnel vision may not immediately see it).
Except that PvEers don't go around ganking PvPers while they do pledges.
VaranisArano wrote: »KappaKid83 wrote: »I actually agree with OP. We run a small man group, 6-10 players, 5 nights a week with Wednesdays and Fridays off and we are actually going to take a break tonight and look at the PTS to avoid this mess.Taleof2Cities wrote: »Remember that PvP players have to endure the Undaunted Mettle grind. It goes both ways (even though your tunnel vision may not immediately see it).
Tell me about it, after 5 years I'm still nto even rank 7
Not to mention the horrible monster set grind to be competitive in PvP, what were they thinking.
Also, can not agree with this more. You have to PVE to be able to PVP at a high level but not Vice Versa, pretty frustrating.
You don't run a PVE Stamina Build, do you?
Vigor? Caltrops? Ringing any bells?
oxygen_thief wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »KappaKid83 wrote: »I actually agree with OP. We run a small man group, 6-10 players, 5 nights a week with Wednesdays and Fridays off and we are actually going to take a break tonight and look at the PTS to avoid this mess.Taleof2Cities wrote: »Remember that PvP players have to endure the Undaunted Mettle grind. It goes both ways (even though your tunnel vision may not immediately see it).
Tell me about it, after 5 years I'm still nto even rank 7
Not to mention the horrible monster set grind to be competitive in PvP, what were they thinking.
Also, can not agree with this more. You have to PVE to be able to PVP at a high level but not Vice Versa, pretty frustrating.
You don't run a PVE Stamina Build, do you?
Vigor? Caltrops? Ringing any bells?
you can get it by idling at the spawn in bgs
EvilAutoTech wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Thanks for the productive discussion.
Remember that PvP players have to endure the Undaunted Mettle grind. It goes both ways (even though your tunnel vision may not immediately see it).
Except that PvEers don't go around ganking PvPers while they do pledges.
No, they just vote kick them for having the wrong gear or not knowing mechanics on their first run.
rotaugen454 wrote: »starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »Aelakhaii_De_Mythos wrote: »lmfao at the people saying they need to do pvp to be able to do pve (vigor, caltrops etc)
it takes 1/100 the time for the worst player to get vigor nowadays compared to get undaunted mettle.
LOL, I remember back in the day, (little over 2 years ago), you had to endure getting your butt stomped for 2 or 3 weeks to level up enough in PvP rank to get vigor or caltrops. Now it can be done in a few hours.
Heck, grab a resto staff, stay at the edge of a battle, and spam heals. You don’t even need any PvP skill.