Nightblades got gutted
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✭Kidgangster101 wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
Not every player likes to play in a group some like to play alone and nothing absolutely nothing about these changes are fair thy will butcher nb no matter what you say or want to believe lots of players know this will sht on nb pet mag sorc very strong warden and templar also very strong magblade needs good heal stam sorc needs some love mag dk seems strong in right right hands not sure there but thy do nothing about the important things because cry babies like ur self litter the forums with nerf nb to op rather thn l2p find a counter play i 1vx nb regularly thy are easy af if you know how to deal with em 😔
Lol stop please with then "solo play" this is a MMORPG if you enjoy solo play so much maybe this game isn't for that person? Maybe they should go play skyrim or wait for part 6 to come out. [/quote]
Are you being serious why is it so bad that some players like to play alone I love pvp as much as anyone I just prefer playing alone I never insult players tht zerg me I never judge players tht follows zergs 100% of the time or small scale groups I’m not saying because I play solo I’m better thn tht of a player tht zergs I just I like to play alone and everyone should get tht choice players enjoy the game differently bk in the day the was lot solo players it was often you see someone 1vx
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Even magblade’s bombing potentional got nerfed with the DoT changes (delayed first ticks)
i disagree.
bombing potential will go up if the patch notes come to live like they are right now.
soul tether dot doesnt tick that hard so the dot change wont affect it as much.
The minor berserk nerf is not that bad either. there are other sources for it, and im sure i can make one of them work for me.
But the 6->8m tether increase and the 25% damage buff form sap are huge. And the snare removal from race against time will make it easier too for getting in and out of bombs.
The mass hysteria change is also going to be a huge buff for bombers. Rooting players in place with a stun that goes through block is awesome, and should work to guarantee more initial kills with a bomb.0 -
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If these changes go live nb will be unplayable end of story I hate mag sorcs always felt like there shields were to op yet in murkmire patch when thy threaten to put a cast time on shields I was one who defended shields because I could see tht it would break mag sorcsKidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
If a anything they should had put minor vulnerabilty to surprise attack. Using the nightblade gap closer is too slow to warrant a spot in the rotation, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
So you want to give your class spamable another very powerful buff? Maybe play like other classes now and have to slot more than 1 bar to do massive damage and gain all your buffs needed from that bar too. Because right now NB has the tools to gank from 1 bar if they really wanted to half ass it.
Why should every class play the same?
So your telling me just because you have to slot marked target now which btw is another class skill to gain major fracture is a bad thing? You nightblades want everything so easy mode that you can spam 1 move while falling asleep and have max results? Lolol
Most classes don't actually have nearly as many options for moves as nightblades do. Seriously tired of everyone saying NB is unplayable when in reality people saying that have no concept how to do anything besides having everything built into a 1 bar loadout
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Joosef_Kivikilpi✭✭✭✭Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
Necromancer will be providing minor Vulnerability for the group. They are the debuff class. Also, Templars can Purge that debuff off from everyone so that little vulnerability we get is going to be garbage with a Templar group.1 -
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✭✭Another sledgehammer taken to skills in the name of PVP that nobody wants in PVE. This is getting old and beyond annoying.2 -
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✭Deathlord92 wrote: »
If these changes go live nb will be unplayable end of story I hate mag sorcs always felt like there shields were to op yet in murkmire patch when thy threaten to put a cast time on shields I was one who defended shields because I could see tht it would break mag sorcsKidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
If a anything they should had put minor vulnerabilty to surprise attack. Using the nightblade gap closer is too slow to warrant a spot in the rotation, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
So you want to give your class spamable another very powerful buff? Maybe play like other classes now and have to slot more than 1 bar to do massive damage and gain all your buffs needed from that bar too. Because right now NB has the tools to gank from 1 bar if they really wanted to half ass it.
Why should every class play the same?
So your telling me just because you have to slot marked target now which btw is another class skill to gain major fracture is a bad thing? You nightblades want everything so easy mode that you can spam 1 move while falling asleep and have max results? Lolol
Most classes don't actually have nearly as many options for moves as nightblades do. Seriously tired of everyone saying NB is unplayable when in reality people saying that have no concept how to do anything besides having everything built into a 1 bar loadout
You are being so overdramatic....... People have already said NB is still perfectly fine on pts and are hitting similar. So how is that unplayable?2 -
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✭Joosef_Kivikilpi wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
Necromancer will be providing minor Vulnerability for the group. They are the debuff class. Also, Templars can Purge that debuff off from everyone so that little vulnerability we get is going to be garbage with a Templar group.
Stamnb had so much up front damage it is so stupid that people actually think half the enemys life should be gone off one attack. I play every class in the game pve and pvp and warden can hit hard burst but
1) you see them coming
2) you can roll through (and now block) their attack that helps them burst you down
So tell me how NB on Stam side wasn't over performing again? Just saying it is not as bad as you guys are making it out (and I have a Stam NB lol)Edited by Kidgangster101 on April 17, 2019 11:09PM1 -
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✭All these people that obviously never played an MMORPG before. In other games the Rogue/stealth class can stay in stealth indefinitely till canceled, pulled out with dmg, or atks someone. They don't have a magic bar to cap how long they can stealth. They also get an ability to completely vanish and exit combat to get away. Oh yeah and at some point you can totally nullify the movement penalty while in stealth without a gear set.
These nerfs are only happening due to people who refused to slot stealth counters and got killed in pvp too many times by Nightblades. Once nightblades are awful and no one plays them that will happen a lot less you see.
Same reason faction lock is happening. People who play one way hate those who dont play as they do and want them forced to choose to either play as they do or not play at all.
Oh I don't disagree. My post was aimed at the people crying about cloak and NB being stealthy and not fighting fair. Like last time I checked that's the whole point of a stealth class.
Great stamblades are ultra hard to deal with. Just the nature of the class. Some people can’t understand that and they want it nerfed in response. Same kids that don’t try any of the counterplay towards cloak.2 -
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It don’t matter what you say you obviously hate nb probably got kill by one few times I don’t care nb is going to be sht af if these changes go live I’m not paying to be slaughtered all day in cyrodiil because everyone else is on templar warden mag sorc I bet you necromancer will be meta no way am I buying tht sht either if thy butcher my class oh no thy ain’t getting another penny out me if update 22 what us nb got look forward to then I’m outKidgangster101 wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »
If these changes go live nb will be unplayable end of story I hate mag sorcs always felt like there shields were to op yet in murkmire patch when thy threaten to put a cast time on shields I was one who defended shields because I could see tht it would break mag sorcsKidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
If a anything they should had put minor vulnerabilty to surprise attack. Using the nightblade gap closer is too slow to warrant a spot in the rotation, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
So you want to give your class spamable another very powerful buff? Maybe play like other classes now and have to slot more than 1 bar to do massive damage and gain all your buffs needed from that bar too. Because right now NB has the tools to gank from 1 bar if they really wanted to half ass it.
Why should every class play the same?
So your telling me just because you have to slot marked target now which btw is another class skill to gain major fracture is a bad thing? You nightblades want everything so easy mode that you can spam 1 move while falling asleep and have max results? Lolol
Most classes don't actually have nearly as many options for moves as nightblades do. Seriously tired of everyone saying NB is unplayable when in reality people saying that have no concept how to do anything besides having everything built into a 1 bar loadout
You are being so overdramatic....... People have already said NB is still perfectly fine on pts and are hitting similar. So how is that unplayable?
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Etrella✭✭✭This patch keeps reminding me of when Morrowind came out. I remember all the people that stopped playing for a long while. Are we heading in the same direction again? Hope not.1
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Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
If a anything they should had put minor vulnerabilty to surprise attack. Using the nightblade gap closer is too slow to warrant a spot in the rotation, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
So you want to give your class spamable another very powerful buff? Maybe play like other classes now and have to slot more than 1 bar to do massive damage and gain all your buffs needed from that bar too. Because right now NB has the tools to gank from 1 bar if they really wanted to half ass it.
Why should every class play the same?
So your telling me just because you have to slot marked target now which btw is another class skill to gain major fracture is a bad thing? You nightblades want everything so easy mode that you can spam 1 move while falling asleep and have max results? Lolol
Most classes don't actually have nearly as many options for moves as nightblades do. Seriously tired of everyone saying NB is unplayable when in reality people saying that have no concept how to do anything besides having everything built into a 1 bar loadout
Sounds like you just have problem with nightblade.
At this point it sounds like youre arguing to argue. Every class has some advantage.
You know sorcery has a 1 bar set up?
You know Stam Stam DK have a 1bar set up?
You make it seem its something specific for NB. Thats simply not true. Though thats not really the issue.
Too many pvp crybabies who cant seem to counter then start crying. If youre gettimg ganked, build with more resistance and health and keep youre shield up. Get good. Dont cry about it. Nerfing only makes you a worse player.
Everyone gets ganked. Put yourr big boy pants on, man up and move on. Its a fn stealth class. I get gank by them too.
Stop crying to the devs about not being good enough or smart enough to counter and capialize.
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✭Deathlord92 wrote: »
It don’t matter what you say you obviously hate nb probably got kill by one few times I don’t care nb is going to be sht af if these changes go live I’m not paying to be slaughtered all day in cyrodiil because everyone else is on templar warden mag sorc I bet you necromancer will be meta no way am I buying tht sht either if thy butcher my class oh no thy ain’t getting another penny out me if update 22 what us nb got look forward to then I’m outKidgangster101 wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »
If these changes go live nb will be unplayable end of story I hate mag sorcs always felt like there shields were to op yet in murkmire patch when thy threaten to put a cast time on shields I was one who defended shields because I could see tht it would break mag sorcsKidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
If a anything they should had put minor vulnerabilty to surprise attack. Using the nightblade gap closer is too slow to warrant a spot in the rotation, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
So you want to give your class spamable another very powerful buff? Maybe play like other classes now and have to slot more than 1 bar to do massive damage and gain all your buffs needed from that bar too. Because right now NB has the tools to gank from 1 bar if they really wanted to half ass it.
Why should every class play the same?
So your telling me just because you have to slot marked target now which btw is another class skill to gain major fracture is a bad thing? You nightblades want everything so easy mode that you can spam 1 move while falling asleep and have max results? Lolol
Most classes don't actually have nearly as many options for moves as nightblades do. Seriously tired of everyone saying NB is unplayable when in reality people saying that have no concept how to do anything besides having everything built into a 1 bar loadout
You are being so overdramatic....... People have already said NB is still perfectly fine on pts and are hitting similar. So how is that unplayable?
Lol bro I have a Stam NB so don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Again necro is op right now and will be toned down before launch but NB is going to be just fine watch lololol. Stop being so dramatic0 -
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✭Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
If a anything they should had put minor vulnerabilty to surprise attack. Using the nightblade gap closer is too slow to warrant a spot in the rotation, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
So you want to give your class spamable another very powerful buff? Maybe play like other classes now and have to slot more than 1 bar to do massive damage and gain all your buffs needed from that bar too. Because right now NB has the tools to gank from 1 bar if they really wanted to half ass it.
Why should every class play the same?
So your telling me just because you have to slot marked target now which btw is another class skill to gain major fracture is a bad thing? You nightblades want everything so easy mode that you can spam 1 move while falling asleep and have max results? Lolol
Most classes don't actually have nearly as many options for moves as nightblades do. Seriously tired of everyone saying NB is unplayable when in reality people saying that have no concept how to do anything besides having everything built into a 1 bar loadout
Sounds like you just have problem with nightblade.
At this point it sounds like youre arguing to argue. Every class has some advantage.
You know sorcery has a 1 bar set up?
You know Stam Stam DK have a 1bar set up?
You make it seem its something specific for NB. Thats simply not true. Though thats not really the issue.
Too many pvp crybabies who cant seem to counter then start crying. If youre gettimg ganked, build with more resistance and health and keep youre shield up. Get good. Dont cry about it. Nerfing only makes you a worse player.
Everyone gets ganked. Put yourr big boy pants on, man up and move on. Its a fn stealth class. I get gank by them too.
Stop crying to the devs about not being good enough or smart enough to counter and capialize.
Get Good!
Bro again I play all classes. When was the last time a gank worked on me? Maybe when I'm out numbered and a NB sneaks in. Again I have played pvp since launch on console.
You assume that I'm bad? Come find me if you play on console I'm in cyrodil or BG often. You guys need to stop crying over something that isn't as big as you make it out to be. I will say this again good players will change slightly to this change and bad players will continue to cry on the forums saying their class is unplayable.
So the better question is which are you? 😂😂😂😂😂😂1 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
If a anything they should had put minor vulnerabilty to surprise attack. Using the nightblade gap closer is too slow to warrant a spot in the rotation, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
So you want to give your class spamable another very powerful buff? Maybe play like other classes now and have to slot more than 1 bar to do massive damage and gain all your buffs needed from that bar too. Because right now NB has the tools to gank from 1 bar if they really wanted to half ass it.
Why should every class play the same?
So your telling me just because you have to slot marked target now which btw is another class skill to gain major fracture is a bad thing? You nightblades want everything so easy mode that you can spam 1 move while falling asleep and have max results? Lolol
Most classes don't actually have nearly as many options for moves as nightblades do. Seriously tired of everyone saying NB is unplayable when in reality people saying that have no concept how to do anything besides having everything built into a 1 bar loadout
Sounds like you just have problem with nightblade.
At this point it sounds like youre arguing to argue. Every class has some advantage.
You know sorcery has a 1 bar set up?
You know Stam Stam DK have a 1bar set up?
You make it seem its something specific for NB. Thats simply not true. Though thats not really the issue.
Too many pvp crybabies who cant seem to counter then start crying. If youre gettimg ganked, build with more resistance and health and keep youre shield up. Get good. Dont cry about it. Nerfing only makes you a worse player.
Everyone gets ganked. Put yourr big boy pants on, man up and move on. Its a fn stealth class. I get gank by them too.
Stop crying to the devs about not being good enough or smart enough to counter and capialize.
Get Good!
Bro again I play all classes. When was the last time a gank worked on me? Maybe when I'm out numbered and a NB sneaks in. Again I have played pvp since launch on console.
You assume that I'm bad? Come find me if you play on console I'm in cyrodil or BG often. You guys need to stop crying over something that isn't as big as you make it out to be. I will say this again good players will change slightly to this change and bad players will continue to cry on the forums saying their class is unplayable.
So the better question is which are you? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I have all classes all roles 2 account's max cp. Quote me saying the class was unplayable.
Bad players are the ones crying because they want nerfs.
Im happy for you thay youde gank proof. I think most tanks are gank proof.
Try running medium or light.
Most people who are complaining abiut the nerfs will adapt. But, here is the kicker...you will still find something to snivel about and ask the devs to nerf.
Its just Crybabydum Here1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Shadowasrial wrote: »Why for the love of god are we always getting the nerfhammer? I mean it’s like zenimax doesn’t like having a rogue playstyle. Nightblades were meant to be single target killers. Meant to be able to quickly kill a SINGLE target. Not multiple. Not fight extended fights against multiple targets. They have steadily destroyed the rogue playstyle with each patch. Just because you get assassinated by one player doesn’t mean they are overpowered. The nightblade was meant to be able to go out into Cyrodil by yourself and be able to put the fear of the gods into whoever was running by themselves. Is that really so bad? I mean you have a nightblade fighting a group and it’s laughable because we can’t fight for extended periods and healing ourselves. Stop killing the rogue playstyle. Instead teach people to actually build to defend against it. Don’t expect to go into pvp and be able to survive every single player you come across. I don’t expect to kill every tank I cross paths with. But I definitely expect to be able to kill a player who I’ve taken by surprise and who is by themselves
Please stop with this sort of thinking that a Nightblade was meant to be a Single Target Killer...meant to destroy a single target and not fight extended fights....Because frankly...its not True....Its never been true, See bloody any bomb build that involved nightblades or any video involving just mowing through targets between stealth..
This sort of things applied to Nightsblades, Infiltrators and Shadowblades in DAOC...It however doesn't apply to a class that can go into and out of stealth with the ability to pick up very good heals..Or just Straight go Brawler style if ya want.
If you wanna argue against a nerf...at least make the argument somewhat true or compelling....none of this woe is me my class is meant to be this playstyle that's never applied to me complaint.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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Joosef_Kivikilpi✭✭✭✭Just sounds like your delightful, ganking "playstyle" is now slightly less easy to perform.
I've heard it all before, in other games, from players who only ever play the easiest and/or the nastiest classes and then demand all the other classes (or their "victim" classes) are nerfed even further.
If that isn't the case, here, then I apologise - it just always is the case everywhere else.Kidgangster101 wrote: »Joosef_Kivikilpi wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
Necromancer will be providing minor Vulnerability for the group. They are the debuff class. Also, Templars can Purge that debuff off from everyone so that little vulnerability we get is going to be garbage with a Templar group.
Stamnb had so much up front damage it is so stupid that people actually think half the enemys life should be gone off one attack. I play every class in the game pve and pvp and warden can hit hard burst but
1) you see them coming
2) you can roll through (and now block) their attack that helps them burst you down
So tell me how NB on Stam side wasn't over performing again? Just saying it is not as bad as you guys are making it out (and I have a Stam NB lol)
I'm speaking from a Mageblade side. Having Major fracture on spammable that game major resolve also was overstacked. But as a Mageblade, giving minor Vulnerability is not allowing the enemy to remove the extra dmg, unlike with beserk.0 -
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✭Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
If a anything they should had put minor vulnerabilty to surprise attack. Using the nightblade gap closer is too slow to warrant a spot in the rotation, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
So you want to give your class spamable another very powerful buff? Maybe play like other classes now and have to slot more than 1 bar to do massive damage and gain all your buffs needed from that bar too. Because right now NB has the tools to gank from 1 bar if they really wanted to half ass it.
Why should every class play the same?
So your telling me just because you have to slot marked target now which btw is another class skill to gain major fracture is a bad thing? You nightblades want everything so easy mode that you can spam 1 move while falling asleep and have max results? Lolol
Most classes don't actually have nearly as many options for moves as nightblades do. Seriously tired of everyone saying NB is unplayable when in reality people saying that have no concept how to do anything besides having everything built into a 1 bar loadout
Sounds like you just have problem with nightblade.
At this point it sounds like youre arguing to argue. Every class has some advantage.
You know sorcery has a 1 bar set up?
You know Stam Stam DK have a 1bar set up?
You make it seem its something specific for NB. Thats simply not true. Though thats not really the issue.
Too many pvp crybabies who cant seem to counter then start crying. If youre gettimg ganked, build with more resistance and health and keep youre shield up. Get good. Dont cry about it. Nerfing only makes you a worse player.
Everyone gets ganked. Put yourr big boy pants on, man up and move on. Its a fn stealth class. I get gank by them too.
Stop crying to the devs about not being good enough or smart enough to counter and capialize.
Get Good!
Bro again I play all classes. When was the last time a gank worked on me? Maybe when I'm out numbered and a NB sneaks in. Again I have played pvp since launch on console.
You assume that I'm bad? Come find me if you play on console I'm in cyrodil or BG often. You guys need to stop crying over something that isn't as big as you make it out to be. I will say this again good players will change slightly to this change and bad players will continue to cry on the forums saying their class is unplayable.
So the better question is which are you? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I have all classes all roles 2 account's max cp. Quote me saying the class was unplayable.
Bad players are the ones crying because they want nerfs.
Im happy for you thay youde gank proof. I think most tanks are gank proof.
Try running medium or light.
Most people who are complaining abiut the nerfs will adapt. But, here is the kicker...you will still find something to snivel about and ask the devs to nerf.
Its just Crybabydum Here
Yeah I run 5 light 1 heavy 1 medium on my build for templar and 7 medium on my dk and 7 medium on my Stam NB thanks for assuming I'm wearing heavy armor tho
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Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
If a anything they should had put minor vulnerabilty to surprise attack. Using the nightblade gap closer is too slow to warrant a spot in the rotation, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
So you want to give your class spamable another very powerful buff? Maybe play like other classes now and have to slot more than 1 bar to do massive damage and gain all your buffs needed from that bar too. Because right now NB has the tools to gank from 1 bar if they really wanted to half ass it.
Why should every class play the same?
So your telling me just because you have to slot marked target now which btw is another class skill to gain major fracture is a bad thing? You nightblades want everything so easy mode that you can spam 1 move while falling asleep and have max results? Lolol
Most classes don't actually have nearly as many options for moves as nightblades do. Seriously tired of everyone saying NB is unplayable when in reality people saying that have no concept how to do anything besides having everything built into a 1 bar loadout
Sounds like you just have problem with nightblade.
At this point it sounds like youre arguing to argue. Every class has some advantage.
You know sorcery has a 1 bar set up?
You know Stam Stam DK have a 1bar set up?
You make it seem its something specific for NB. Thats simply not true. Though thats not really the issue.
Too many pvp crybabies who cant seem to counter then start crying. If youre gettimg ganked, build with more resistance and health and keep youre shield up. Get good. Dont cry about it. Nerfing only makes you a worse player.
Everyone gets ganked. Put yourr big boy pants on, man up and move on. Its a fn stealth class. I get gank by them too.
Stop crying to the devs about not being good enough or smart enough to counter and capialize.
Get Good!
Bro again I play all classes. When was the last time a gank worked on me? Maybe when I'm out numbered and a NB sneaks in. Again I have played pvp since launch on console.
You assume that I'm bad? Come find me if you play on console I'm in cyrodil or BG often. You guys need to stop crying over something that isn't as big as you make it out to be. I will say this again good players will change slightly to this change and bad players will continue to cry on the forums saying their class is unplayable.
So the better question is which are you? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I have all classes all roles 2 account's max cp. Quote me saying the class was unplayable.
Bad players are the ones crying because they want nerfs.
Im happy for you thay youde gank proof. I think most tanks are gank proof.
Try running medium or light.
Most people who are complaining abiut the nerfs will adapt. But, here is the kicker...you will still find something to snivel about and ask the devs to nerf.
Its just Crybabydum Here
Yeah I run 5 light 1 heavy 1 medium on my build for templar and 7 medium on my dk and 7 medium on my Stam NB thanks for assuming I'm wearing heavy armor tho
Then you definitely get ganked. Well maybe not if youre simply running BG's. You wouldnt last 10 seconds in Cyrodiil with that setup outside running with maybe a Zerg1 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Shadowasrial wrote: »Why for the love of god are we always getting the nerfhammer? I mean it’s like zenimax doesn’t like having a rogue playstyle. Nightblades were meant to be single target killers. Meant to be able to quickly kill a SINGLE target. Not multiple. Not fight extended fights against multiple targets. They have steadily destroyed the rogue playstyle with each patch. Just because you get assassinated by one player doesn’t mean they are overpowered. The nightblade was meant to be able to go out into Cyrodil by yourself and be able to put the fear of the gods into whoever was running by themselves. Is that really so bad? I mean you have a nightblade fighting a group and it’s laughable because we can’t fight for extended periods and healing ourselves. Stop killing the rogue playstyle. Instead teach people to actually build to defend against it. Don’t expect to go into pvp and be able to survive every single player you come across. I don’t expect to kill every tank I cross paths with. But I definitely expect to be able to kill a player who I’ve taken by surprise and who is by themselves
Please stop with this sort of thinking that a Nightblade was meant to be a Single Target Killer...meant to destroy a single target and not fight extended fights....Because frankly...its not True....Its never been true, See bloody any bomb build that involved nightblades or any video involving just mowing through targets between stealth..
This sort of things applied to Nightsblades, Infiltrators and Shadowblades in DAOC...It however doesn't apply to a class that can go into and out of stealth with the ability to pick up very good heals..Or just Straight go Brawler style if ya want.
If you wanna argue against a nerf...at least make the argument somewhat true or compelling....none of this woe is me my class is meant to be this playstyle that's never applied to me complaint.
Why not? People make the argument all the time that DK are META TANKS. WWhichbos definite Player BS. Nevertheless, they make that argument all the time. Whats the difference?Edited by Lab3360 on April 18, 2019 6:30AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Deathlord92 wrote: »
If these changes go live nb will be unplayable end of story I hate mag sorcs always felt like there shields were to op yet in murkmire patch when thy threaten to put a cast time on shields I was one who defended shields because I could see tht it would break mag sorcsKidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
If a anything they should had put minor vulnerabilty to surprise attack. Using the nightblade gap closer is too slow to warrant a spot in the rotation, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
So you want to give your class spamable another very powerful buff? Maybe play like other classes now and have to slot more than 1 bar to do massive damage and gain all your buffs needed from that bar too. Because right now NB has the tools to gank from 1 bar if they really wanted to half ass it.
Why should every class play the same?
So your telling me just because you have to slot marked target now which btw is another class skill to gain major fracture is a bad thing? You nightblades want everything so easy mode that you can spam 1 move while falling asleep and have max results? Lolol
Most classes don't actually have nearly as many options for moves as nightblades do. Seriously tired of everyone saying NB is unplayable when in reality people saying that have no concept how to do anything besides having everything built into a 1 bar loadout
Me too. Most of the time, I play against sorcs, but at the time I said to myself: "cast time on shield ?! That is so unfair... That is an equivalent of puting cast time on cloack..." Although I an not a sorc main... I simply felt it was just wrong.
^ At that time I was beeing objective and I actally felt some compassion towards sorcs. Today... All the hate towards NB, that seems to be comming mostly from sorcs... I...I...5 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »
If these changes go live nb will be unplayable end of story I hate mag sorcs always felt like there shields were to op yet in murkmire patch when thy threaten to put a cast time on shields I was one who defended shields because I could see tht it would break mag sorcsKidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
If a anything they should had put minor vulnerabilty to surprise attack. Using the nightblade gap closer is too slow to warrant a spot in the rotation, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
So you want to give your class spamable another very powerful buff? Maybe play like other classes now and have to slot more than 1 bar to do massive damage and gain all your buffs needed from that bar too. Because right now NB has the tools to gank from 1 bar if they really wanted to half ass it.
Why should every class play the same?
So your telling me just because you have to slot marked target now which btw is another class skill to gain major fracture is a bad thing? You nightblades want everything so easy mode that you can spam 1 move while falling asleep and have max results? Lolol
Most classes don't actually have nearly as many options for moves as nightblades do. Seriously tired of everyone saying NB is unplayable when in reality people saying that have no concept how to do anything besides having everything built into a 1 bar loadout
Me too. Most of the time, I play against sorcs, but at the time I said to myself: "cast time on shield ?! That is so unfair... That is an equivalent of puting cast time on cloack..." Although I an not a sorc main... I simply felt it was just wrong.
^ At that time I was beeing objective and I actally felt some compassion towards sorcs. Today... All the hate towards NB, that seems to be comming mostly from sorcs... I...I...
Devs made Nightblade the only class with no Burst heal access.1 -
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✭Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
If a anything they should had put minor vulnerabilty to surprise attack. Using the nightblade gap closer is too slow to warrant a spot in the rotation, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
So you want to give your class spamable another very powerful buff? Maybe play like other classes now and have to slot more than 1 bar to do massive damage and gain all your buffs needed from that bar too. Because right now NB has the tools to gank from 1 bar if they really wanted to half ass it.
Why should every class play the same?
So your telling me just because you have to slot marked target now which btw is another class skill to gain major fracture is a bad thing? You nightblades want everything so easy mode that you can spam 1 move while falling asleep and have max results? Lolol
Most classes don't actually have nearly as many options for moves as nightblades do. Seriously tired of everyone saying NB is unplayable when in reality people saying that have no concept how to do anything besides having everything built into a 1 bar loadout
Sounds like you just have problem with nightblade.
At this point it sounds like youre arguing to argue. Every class has some advantage.
You know sorcery has a 1 bar set up?
You know Stam Stam DK have a 1bar set up?
You make it seem its something specific for NB. Thats simply not true. Though thats not really the issue.
Too many pvp crybabies who cant seem to counter then start crying. If youre gettimg ganked, build with more resistance and health and keep youre shield up. Get good. Dont cry about it. Nerfing only makes you a worse player.
Everyone gets ganked. Put yourr big boy pants on, man up and move on. Its a fn stealth class. I get gank by them too.
Stop crying to the devs about not being good enough or smart enough to counter and capialize.
Get Good!
Bro again I play all classes. When was the last time a gank worked on me? Maybe when I'm out numbered and a NB sneaks in. Again I have played pvp since launch on console.
You assume that I'm bad? Come find me if you play on console I'm in cyrodil or BG often. You guys need to stop crying over something that isn't as big as you make it out to be. I will say this again good players will change slightly to this change and bad players will continue to cry on the forums saying their class is unplayable.
So the better question is which are you? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I have all classes all roles 2 account's max cp. Quote me saying the class was unplayable.
Bad players are the ones crying because they want nerfs.
Im happy for you thay youde gank proof. I think most tanks are gank proof.
Try running medium or light.
Most people who are complaining abiut the nerfs will adapt. But, here is the kicker...you will still find something to snivel about and ask the devs to nerf.
Its just Crybabydum Here
Yeah I run 5 light 1 heavy 1 medium on my build for templar and 7 medium on my dk and 7 medium on my Stam NB thanks for assuming I'm wearing heavy armor tho
Then you definitely get ganked. Well maybe not if youre simply running BG's. You wouldnt last 10 seconds in Cyrodiil with that setup outside running with maybe a Zerg
Nope many NB try to gank and they fail. I usually am by myself or with 1 other person I just know how to play all my roles strengths is all.0 -
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Well said read this well noobs and l2pKidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
If a anything they should had put minor vulnerabilty to surprise attack. Using the nightblade gap closer is too slow to warrant a spot in the rotation, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
So you want to give your class spamable another very powerful buff? Maybe play like other classes now and have to slot more than 1 bar to do massive damage and gain all your buffs needed from that bar too. Because right now NB has the tools to gank from 1 bar if they really wanted to half ass it.
Why should every class play the same?
So your telling me just because you have to slot marked target now which btw is another class skill to gain major fracture is a bad thing? You nightblades want everything so easy mode that you can spam 1 move while falling asleep and have max results? Lolol
Most classes don't actually have nearly as many options for moves as nightblades do. Seriously tired of everyone saying NB is unplayable when in reality people saying that have no concept how to do anything besides having everything built into a 1 bar loadout
Sounds like you just have problem with nightblade.
At this point it sounds like youre arguing to argue. Every class has some advantage.
You know sorcery has a 1 bar set up?
You know Stam Stam DK have a 1bar set up?
You make it seem its something specific for NB. Thats simply not true. Though thats not really the issue.
Too many pvp crybabies who cant seem to counter then start crying. If youre gettimg ganked, build with more resistance and health and keep youre shield up. Get good. Dont cry about it. Nerfing only makes you a worse player.
Everyone gets ganked. Put yourr big boy pants on, man up and move on. Its a fn stealth class. I get gank by them too.
Stop crying to the devs about not being good enough or smart enough to counter and capialize.
Get Good!
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I’m not being dramatic and I’m not the only player that knows how sht nb will be in update 22 lots players think as I doKidgangster101 wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »
It don’t matter what you say you obviously hate nb probably got kill by one few times I don’t care nb is going to be sht af if these changes go live I’m not paying to be slaughtered all day in cyrodiil because everyone else is on templar warden mag sorc I bet you necromancer will be meta no way am I buying tht sht either if thy butcher my class oh no thy ain’t getting another penny out me if update 22 what us nb got look forward to then I’m outKidgangster101 wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »
If these changes go live nb will be unplayable end of story I hate mag sorcs always felt like there shields were to op yet in murkmire patch when thy threaten to put a cast time on shields I was one who defended shields because I could see tht it would break mag sorcsKidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
If a anything they should had put minor vulnerabilty to surprise attack. Using the nightblade gap closer is too slow to warrant a spot in the rotation, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
So you want to give your class spamable another very powerful buff? Maybe play like other classes now and have to slot more than 1 bar to do massive damage and gain all your buffs needed from that bar too. Because right now NB has the tools to gank from 1 bar if they really wanted to half ass it.
Why should every class play the same?
So your telling me just because you have to slot marked target now which btw is another class skill to gain major fracture is a bad thing? You nightblades want everything so easy mode that you can spam 1 move while falling asleep and have max results? Lolol
Most classes don't actually have nearly as many options for moves as nightblades do. Seriously tired of everyone saying NB is unplayable when in reality people saying that have no concept how to do anything besides having everything built into a 1 bar loadout
You are being so overdramatic....... People have already said NB is still perfectly fine on pts and are hitting similar. So how is that unplayable?
Lol bro I have a Stam NB so don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Again necro is op right now and will be toned down before launch but NB is going to be just fine watch lololol. Stop being so dramatic
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✭As I said before I love nb as a class if thy wanted to tone down stamblade a bit and gave magblade some love I’d be a little sad for stamblade as I main it but I also love my magblade and l2p it but to my horrible surprise magblade getting no love at all just more nerfs on a already weak class it’s a sad time for nb good class ruined by witless players 😔2 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I just don't understand why Nb gets hit with all the nerfs and how the other top classes stay completely untouched. Nb (the med armor and light armor builds) at least can be punished easily for mistakes, meanwhile magicka sorc and heavy sword and board stamdk are just roflstomp. Seeing what they're doing with Nightblade both magsorc and stamdk should get big nerfs as well, mainly to shields/healing and sustain (and pets lol...).
How long has NB been at the top for? You all gotta learn to adapt and also learn the values of things in pve and pvp.
First off you lost 8% dmg through grim focus but..... You gained 8% vulnerability down for the entire group and yourself so that is actually better.
Second is SA is still a great spamable move but it def needed to be toned down because it offered too much between passives and fracture (thinks change slows you down some in pvp but doesn't hurt you at all in group play pve as tank keeps fracture on boss)
Third you guys had way to much with your cheap ultimate the defile is really cheap on such a low cost ultimate that already makes you take 20% more damage.
Fear now keeps them stunned in 1 spot plus hits 6 people now. ......
So let's see now you can open a fight with gap closer to apply minor vulnerability, marked target for your def down, and still spam surprise attack and ulti dump in big burst combos for pvp and if they attempt to recover you fear them in place to fully finish the job so why are you crying exactly? And in pve you actually gained more group play and offer the group minor vulnerability.......
If a anything they should had put minor vulnerabilty to surprise attack. Using the nightblade gap closer is too slow to warrant a spot in the rotation, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
So you want to give your class spamable another very powerful buff? Maybe play like other classes now and have to slot more than 1 bar to do massive damage and gain all your buffs needed from that bar too. Because right now NB has the tools to gank from 1 bar if they really wanted to half ass it.
Why should every class play the same?
So your telling me just because you have to slot marked target now which btw is another class skill to gain major fracture is a bad thing? You nightblades want everything so easy mode that you can spam 1 move while falling asleep and have max results? Lolol
Most classes don't actually have nearly as many options for moves as nightblades do. Seriously tired of everyone saying NB is unplayable when in reality people saying that have no concept how to do anything besides having everything built into a 1 bar loadout
Sounds like you just have problem with nightblade.
At this point it sounds like youre arguing to argue. Every class has some advantage.
You know sorcery has a 1 bar set up?
You know Stam Stam DK have a 1bar set up?
You make it seem its something specific for NB. Thats simply not true. Though thats not really the issue.
Too many pvp crybabies who cant seem to counter then start crying. If youre gettimg ganked, build with more resistance and health and keep youre shield up. Get good. Dont cry about it. Nerfing only makes you a worse player.
Everyone gets ganked. Put yourr big boy pants on, man up and move on. Its a fn stealth class. I get gank by them too.
Stop crying to the devs about not being good enough or smart enough to counter and capialize.
Get Good!
Bro again I play all classes. When was the last time a gank worked on me? Maybe when I'm out numbered and a NB sneaks in. Again I have played pvp since launch on console.
You assume that I'm bad? Come find me if you play on console I'm in cyrodil or BG often. You guys need to stop crying over something that isn't as big as you make it out to be. I will say this again good players will change slightly to this change and bad players will continue to cry on the forums saying their class is unplayable.
So the better question is which are you? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I have all classes all roles 2 account's max cp. Quote me saying the class was unplayable.
Bad players are the ones crying because they want nerfs.
Im happy for you thay youde gank proof. I think most tanks are gank proof.
Try running medium or light.
Most people who are complaining abiut the nerfs will adapt. But, here is the kicker...you will still find something to snivel about and ask the devs to nerf.
Its just Crybabydum Here
Yeah I run 5 light 1 heavy 1 medium on my build for templar and 7 medium on my dk and 7 medium on my Stam NB thanks for assuming I'm wearing heavy armor tho
Then you definitely get ganked. Well maybe not if youre simply running BG's. You wouldnt last 10 seconds in Cyrodiil with that setup outside running with maybe a Zerg
Nope many NB try to gank and they fail. I usually am by myself or with 1 other person I just know how to play all my roles strengths is all.
I call BS you never have been ganked in Cyrodiil.
Everyone has apparently except for you.
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evoniee✭✭✭✭funny tank playstyle can kill assassin playstyle while assassin playstyle cannot kill tank playstyle.
well, assassin playstyle is dead so long ago, unless you still use lethal arror incap desync to kill other nb which is dumb.3
