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Let's save nightblades with the whole community. What should Grim Focus do?
Veles
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We have to save nightblades, guys. Berserk for NB is not just a feature, it is a pillar on which there is a whole class. Do not be indifferent. Even if your favorite class is Sorc, or DK. You are a healer or a tank. You like PVE or PVP. Build houses or farm resources. Do not pass by. We have to save nightblades.
Edited by Veles on April 16, 2019 9:13AM Let's save nightblades with the whole community. What should Grim Focus do? 113 votes
Grim Focus should give minor berserk.
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91 votes
Grim Focus should heal.
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22 votes
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KaraBela94✭✭✭✭Where were you when Templars got nerfed, Dks got nerfed and so on?
Try to adapt...like most players do and have done.
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Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Berserk for NB is not just a feature, it is a pillar on which there is a whole class.
Huh? When I think about NBs, I don’t think about Minor Berserk... I could understand where you were coming from if they were removing cloak, but this is merely a balance attempt. NBs had a LOT of high damage skills in their arsenal that had powerful buffs associated with them. This was one of them. The way you balance this nerf and make it fair is by taking Berserk from Wardens as well.
Edit: meant minor, not major... I’m too tired.
Edited by Aurielle on April 16, 2019 9:16AM3 -
me_ming✭✭✭✭✭KaraBela94 wrote: »Where were you when Templars got nerfed, Dks got nerfed and so on?
Try to adapt...like most players do and have done.
hahaha Exactly. People were indifferent when templars and sorcs and DKs were strip off skills that "define" our classes."We're heroes, my boon companion, and heroes always win! Let that be a lesson to you."
-Caldwell, "The Final Assault"
"There is always a choice. But you don't get to choose what is true, you only get to choose what you will do about it..."
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Merciless Resolve should behave as it always has and keep the minor berserk. The stam morph can keep the nerf8 -
Veles✭✭✭✭Grim Focus should give minor berserk.Seems this community dont care about NB. ZOS, nerf this ****, I dont care and going to lvl my manaplar.5
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OwnerOfSuccuby✭✭✭NB is too overpovered. It needs more nerf.
Even now. So i am against this topic.11 -
likecats✭✭✭✭✭Grim focus should work like a passive ability that grants a stack counting buff that lasts like 10s when you use a light attack on the bar with it. The buff should refresh if you use another light attack on that bar (without losing stacks), however it should count light attacks on both bars. At five stacks, you get the proc.
This mechanic will make it work somewhat similar to frag where you don't have to activate a useless ability to use the actual ability.
This way, you won't have to use 2 GCDs to get the bow to fire, and will overall improve the clunkiness of the skill a lot.
They have already implemented a very similar mechanic with the new DK whip, so this is very possible and should be quite easy for them to accomplish.
Edited by likecats on April 17, 2019 12:00PM0 -
jcm2606✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭At the least, the cost on the actual ability should be removed, because currently you spend resources on a pointless ability, to gain access to the actual ability.
A better solution would actually be making it function like frags. When the ability is slotted, it automatically starts counting light/heavy attacks, and the proc is the only thing you actually cast.8 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Grim Focus should give minor berserk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC35DT7Ndyo
Please ZOS take more of my money. The only thing I want more than my 300 ping (im Australian) is to be made weaker at no fault of my own. I love you ZOS.3 -
Grim Focus should heal.Nope. Good job ZM. finally I will go back to play ESOEdited by cbritomiranda on April 17, 2019 12:00PMArielle Pendragon [] High Elf - Sorcerer [DD]
Ataena Zastee [] Khajiit - Nightblade [DD]
Marie Pendragon [] Breton - Nightblade [DD]
Angeline Pendragon [] Breton - Templar [Healer]
Freyja Stone-Singer [] Nord - Dragonknight [Tanker]
Raelys the Flame [] High Elf - Dragonknight [Healer]
Anne-Marie Pendragon [] Breton - Warden [Healer]
Fairynn Frost-Moon [] Nord - Warden [Tanker]
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Knootewoot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭At the least, the cost on the actual ability should be removed, because currently you spend resources on a pointless ability, to gain access to the actual ability.
A better solution would actually be making it function like frags. When the ability is slotted, it automatically starts counting light/heavy attacks, and the proc is the only thing you actually cast.
This ^^
Or we should give frags the grim focus treatment٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."1 -
TheValar85✭✭✭✭✭We have to save nightblades, guys. Berserk for NB is not just a feature, it is a pillar on which there is a whole class. Do not be indifferent. Even if your favorite class is Sorc, or DK. You are a healer or a tank. You like PVE or PVP. Build houses or farm resources. Do not pass by. We have to save nightblades.
No. it should happen and it will.
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Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Grim Focus should give minor berserk.To all of you cheering for this evisceration.
What goes around will come around again.
Every nightblade that dies to shalks or wrath or whatever should scream for nerfs every day until we have Wet Noodle Fights Online
Many of us stood up for you during the shield cast time nerf and the breath of life nerf and this is how we are repaid.
Let the nerf train go into high gearEdited by Katahdin on April 17, 2019 1:15PMBeta tester November 20137 -
Jabbs_Giggity✭✭✭✭✭Honestly, with my NB I am more concerned with Major Fracture being removed from Surprise Attack...not that there is nothing wrong with it. IMO I don't see how Mark Target is more viable for MF. The problem is you can only mark ONE target. Would have been more ideal to just add Major Breach to Concealed Weapon instead and remove the Major Fracture/Breach from Mark Target to do something else.0 -
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✭✭Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »Honestly, with my NB I am more concerned with Major Fracture being removed from Surprise Attack...not that there is nothing wrong with it. IMO I don't see how Mark Target is more viable for MF. The problem is you can only mark ONE target. Would have been more ideal to just add Major Breach to Concealed Weapon instead and remove the Major Fracture/Breach from Mark Target to do something else.
An idea I had was to keep Fracture on Surprise Attack, throw Breach onto Concealed, then throw Minor Vulnerability on Mark Target in place of Fracture/Breach. Better way of dealing with the loss of Minor Berserk, since it won't force magblade into melee range through a gap closer.2 -
Jabbs_Giggity✭✭✭✭✭Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »Honestly, with my NB I am more concerned with Major Fracture being removed from Surprise Attack...not that there is nothing wrong with it. IMO I don't see how Mark Target is more viable for MF. The problem is you can only mark ONE target. Would have been more ideal to just add Major Breach to Concealed Weapon instead and remove the Major Fracture/Breach from Mark Target to do something else.
An idea I had was to keep Fracture on Surprise Attack, throw Breach onto Concealed, then throw Minor Vulnerability on Mark Target in place of Fracture/Breach. Better way of dealing with the loss of Minor Berserk, since it won't force magblade into melee range through a gap closer.
As a Magblade you have better options for Major Breach, such as Ele Drain which provides better sustain via Magicka Steal and also Major Breach on multiple targets. No one wants to use mark target because it's insanely unreliable...In a 1vX situation you are then forced to focus one target with Mark in order to get the fracture and MAYBE have enough time without switching targets to get the heal off + the major brutality. IMO this is too "forced to play a specific way" that just doesn't work in actual game play.0 -
EdoKeledus✭✭✭Nightblade mocked DK for the wings change and made sarcasm about adapt during one week but today they are asking the whole community for help.
I won't start a war against Nb but if every class have succeeded to adapt despite the nerfs so you can do it too.
PvP is not and will never be constant.DC PC EU Vivec
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IronWooshu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Berserk for NB is not just a feature, it is a pillar on which there is a whole class.
Huh? When I think about NBs, I don’t think about Minor Berserk... I could understand where you were coming from if they were removing cloak, but this is merely a balance attempt. NBs had a LOT of high damage skills in their arsenal that had powerful buffs associated with them. This was one of them. The way you balance this nerf and make it fair is by taking Berserk from Wardens as well.
Edit: meant minor, not major... I’m too tired.
Wardens aren't over performing in parses like Nightblades were, why would they lose Minor Berserk? They needed it to add some kind of damage since their entire class has like 3 offensive abilities and Swarm is pretty bad so after Birds and Shalks.. what exactly do they have thats not an AOE ultimate or a trap that takes like 3 seconds to apply? The Minor Berserk is needed on Wardens, NOT needed on Nightblades.4 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭At the least, the cost on the actual ability should be removed, because currently you spend resources on a pointless ability, to gain access to the actual ability.
A better solution would actually be making it function like frags. When the ability is slotted, it automatically starts counting light/heavy attacks, and the proc is the only thing you actually cast.
I like that idea.
Another alternative, to curb the complaint that the proc is dodgable, and retain the old “build up deadly momentum” idea, is to make it function a little like Elemental Weapon. Each successive LA while Grim Focus is up could give a small, but increasing amt of additional healing done, culminating in the burst heal proc with the fifth LA. Would be fun to pair with Ele/Crushing Weapon for ranged staff and bow builds.
Edit: and to prevent that from being OP with Leeching Strikes, they could remove the heal proc with that skill and slightly increase the amt of magicka/stam returned with each LA.
Edited by Aurielle on April 17, 2019 1:45PM0 -
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✭✭✭Terrible options - idiotic poll.
We don't need Minor Berserk back and just stating it should heal doesn't change the terrible form it is at on the PTS right now.
I could make suggestions but why bother.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭There are other specs that are in more dire need of saving than NB...
Nightblades will be fine"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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mcagatayg✭✭✭✭Grim Focus should give minor berserk.Hallothiel wrote: »Um. Don’t use this on my stamblade and do fine.
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WoppaBoem✭✭✭✭✭Other, I am oke with the removal of minor beserk and don't care about the heal, but if it heals it should from all ranges. Plus I think the bow needs to be the same mechanics as crystal frag. No need to be active, have it on your bar complete 5 light and get a proc. It now should not be a buff anymore to manage. Plus bar swap should be possible to get to 5 lights.Xbox EU & NA - PVP Only0
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✭✭✭✭Grim Focus should give minor berserk.Incap change had to happen. It was too overloaded. The defile is a nice thing to go.
Suprise attack was really strong too. It probably could have got minor fracture instead of major but oh well.
Minor beserk (and minor endurance) being lost ON TOP of those two, not a fan. That heal thing it bow does it just weird and makes no sense - another passive heal. It'll be useless in PvP as it's halved. Minor beserk isn't what made them strong in PVE as a healer gives it to everyone. Would like to see it back (and I play stamblade for like 5 hours a month, so not even one of my most played these days)0
