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Bring more addicts to Tamriel

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spartaxoxo
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Please make an area with a lot ot Skooma addicts with the Elsywere update. They should be like Drunks but instead carry Skooma stuff and have more skooma dialogue.
Edited by spartaxoxo on April 13, 2019 5:47PM
  • Jaraal
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    I got my Skooma Bubbler design from a drunkard.
  • spartaxoxo
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    I got my Skooma Bubbler design from a drunkard.

    But it would be better to get them from an addict. It would make more sense! It adds flavor.
    Edited by spartaxoxo on April 13, 2019 5:52PM
  • Ankael07
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    Lets not normalize addiction. Skooma isnt some mild alcohol with funny side effects. Its a narcotic with serious life ruining results.

    If we must have skooma in Elsweyr it needs to be in a dark story
    Edited by Ankael07 on April 13, 2019 5:55PM
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  • spartaxoxo
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    Ankael07 wrote: »
    Lets not normalize addiction. Skooma isnt some mild alcohol with funny side effects. Its a narcotic with serious life ruining results.

    If we must have skooma in Elsweyr it needs to be in a dark story

    Why? Alcoholism isn't portrayed that way. And skooma has a wide range of portrayls.
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    Ankael07 wrote: »
    Lets not normalize addiction. Skooma isnt some mild alcohol with funny side effects. Its a narcotic with serious life ruining results.

    If we must have skooma in Elsweyr it needs to be in a dark story

    Right. Skooma isn't weed. Skooma is crack. If we see it, it needs to be portrayed appropriately.
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    adriant1978 wrote: »
    Ankael07 wrote: »
    Lets not normalize addiction. Skooma isnt some mild alcohol with funny side effects. Its a narcotic with serious life ruining results.

    If we must have skooma in Elsweyr it needs to be in a dark story

    Right. Skooma isn't weed. Skooma is crack. If we see it, it needs to be portrayed appropriately.

    Skooma is skooma. And it's gotten some funny portrayals in the past. A lot of the cats do it and don't end up ruining their lives or anything.
    Edited by spartaxoxo on April 13, 2019 6:02PM
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    adriant1978 wrote: »
    Ankael07 wrote: »
    Lets not normalize addiction. Skooma isnt some mild alcohol with funny side effects. Its a narcotic with serious life ruining results.

    If we must have skooma in Elsweyr it needs to be in a dark story

    Right. Skooma isn't weed. Skooma is crack. If we see it, it needs to be portrayed appropriately.

    This. Moonsugar is basically Tamriel’s equivalent of “soft,” relatively harmless drugs, like weed. Skooma ruins lives. I’d be down with seeing some cheerful cats who have been enjoying moonsugar-infused sweet rolls, but that’s it.
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    adriant1978 wrote: »
    Ankael07 wrote: »
    Lets not normalize addiction. Skooma isnt some mild alcohol with funny side effects. Its a narcotic with serious life ruining results.

    If we must have skooma in Elsweyr it needs to be in a dark story

    Right. Skooma isn't weed. Skooma is crack. If we see it, it needs to be portrayed appropriately.

    This. Moonsugar is basically Tamriel’s equivalent of “soft,” relatively harmless drugs, like weed. Skooma ruins lives. I’d be down with seeing some cheerful cats who have been enjoying moonsugar-infused sweet rolls, but that’s it.


    Fine. Moon Sugar addicts or whatever.
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Aurielle wrote: »
    adriant1978 wrote: »
    Ankael07 wrote: »
    Lets not normalize addiction. Skooma isnt some mild alcohol with funny side effects. Its a narcotic with serious life ruining results.

    If we must have skooma in Elsweyr it needs to be in a dark story

    Right. Skooma isn't weed. Skooma is crack. If we see it, it needs to be portrayed appropriately.

    This. Moonsugar is basically Tamriel’s equivalent of “soft,” relatively harmless drugs, like weed. Skooma ruins lives. I’d be down with seeing some cheerful cats who have been enjoying moonsugar-infused sweet rolls, but that’s it.


    Fine. Moon Sugar addicts or whatever.

    Yep, would be more appropriate. See the wiki page for moon sugar: https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Moon_Sugar

    Also from that page:

    “A particularly hazardous derivative of moonsugar, known as skooma, is often smoked in raw form through a water-pipe. Its victims are addicted for life, and in constant, alternating states of euphoria and lethargy.[2] It is widely known to all Khajiit that there is no cure for skooma addiction.[10]”
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    WTB skooma+Hist sap combo.

    For science purposes only... really..
    Edited by StormeReigns on April 13, 2019 6:10PM
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Aurielle wrote: »
    adriant1978 wrote: »
    Ankael07 wrote: »
    Lets not normalize addiction. Skooma isnt some mild alcohol with funny side effects. Its a narcotic with serious life ruining results.

    If we must have skooma in Elsweyr it needs to be in a dark story

    Right. Skooma isn't weed. Skooma is crack. If we see it, it needs to be portrayed appropriately.

    This. Moonsugar is basically Tamriel’s equivalent of “soft,” relatively harmless drugs, like weed. Skooma ruins lives. I’d be down with seeing some cheerful cats who have been enjoying moonsugar-infused sweet rolls, but that’s it.


    Fine. Moon Sugar addicts or whatever.

    Yep, would be more appropriate. See the wiki page for moon sugar: https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Moon_Sugar

    Also from that page:

    “A particularly hazardous derivative of moonsugar, known as skooma, is often smoked in raw form through a water-pipe. Its victims are addicted for life, and in constant, alternating states of euphoria and lethargy.[2] It is widely known to all Khajiit that there is no cure for skooma addiction.[10]”

    I just want to farm the bubbler from some lore friendly NPCs tbqh. That one place is Auridon has gotten old.
    Edited by spartaxoxo on April 13, 2019 6:12PM
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    Let us become skooma addicts with a unique skill line like vampire! Just to *** off all the political correctness that is all the hype at the moment...
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    LordTareq wrote: »
    Let us become skooma addicts with a unique skill line like vampire! Just to *** off all the political correctness that is all the hype at the moment...

    Sure, but after the first few times you call Pacrooti the Dealer for your fix, you have to pawn your best drops to Pirharri (based on RNG...goodbye MA weapon!)
    Because Tythis doesn't have time for junkies.
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    SO, you guys freak out about the Crown Crates as being predatory and preying on people with gambling addictions, but it's perfectly ok with you to have the ESO equivalent of LSD addicts running around because "it'll be fun".


    You guys seriously have some *** up morality issues.
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    Bouldercleave wrote: »
    SO, you guys freak out about the Crown Crates as being predatory and preying on people with gambling addictions, but it's perfectly ok with you to have the ESO equivalent of LSD addicts running around because "it'll be fun".


    You guys seriously have some *** up morality issues.

    This one here erected the spines of Generalizations.
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    I find a little daril or theilul from time to time helps after a rough contract.
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Please make an area with a lot ot Skooma addicts with the Elsywere update. They should be like Drunks but instead carry Skooma stuff and have more skooma dialogue.

    try Stormhaven...should be plenty.
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    Bouldercleave wrote: »
    SO, you guys freak out about the Crown Crates as being predatory and preying on people with gambling addictions, but it's perfectly ok with you to have the ESO equivalent of LSD addicts running around because "it'll be fun".


    You guys seriously have some *** up morality issues.

    Nobody is addicted to LSD, don't be silly. Not that I'd expect you to know that from your pedestal of morality.
    Talking about addiction in a video game probably would be a bit cringey, or it could be good public discourse on a societal topic.

    Skooma seems much more like Heroin to me, that whole addict-for-life thing. Plus, skooma dens look like a trap house.
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    Bouldercleave wrote: »
    SO, you guys freak out about the Crown Crates as being predatory and preying on people with gambling addictions, but it's perfectly ok with you to have the ESO equivalent of LSD addicts running around because "it'll be fun".


    You guys seriously have some *** up morality issues.

    not really...we just follow up the lore...Tamriel is known to have addiction issues regarding Skooma(praise the moons!) due to the wrong usage of our beloved moonsugar…
    talking about morality issues...I dont see anybody complaining about all blacksmiths making weapons that end up in the hands of thieves and murderous maniacs that kill honest people...going in a rampage and rid tamriel of the dangerous blacksmiths that supply those kind of people as well...so yeah its a double edged sword...for us(khajiit) its just a mere spice...for the rest(furless mongrels) its a drug...how to fix? dont take the free sample >:3
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    ZOS can just sell skooma crates,kill 2 birds an all that. >:)
    Edited by Dithieon on April 13, 2019 9:38PM
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    I wish there was a way to get high in real life.
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    I dont agree that Alcohol Use Disorder and homelessness needs to be portrayed here, in game in the first place.
    It makes it acceptable.

    Including drug use in game, causes complications with game classifications in other countries.
    In case anyone cares about that.

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    LurgidBean wrote: »
    Bouldercleave wrote: »
    SO, you guys freak out about the Crown Crates as being predatory and preying on people with gambling addictions, but it's perfectly ok with you to have the ESO equivalent of LSD addicts running around because "it'll be fun".


    You guys seriously have some *** up morality issues.

    Nobody is addicted to LSD, don't be silly. Not that I'd expect you to know that from your pedestal of morality.
    Talking about addiction in a video game probably would be a bit cringey, or it could be good public discourse on a societal topic.

    Skooma seems much more like Heroin to me, that whole addict-for-life thing. Plus, skooma dens look like a trap house.

    I do think it would be quite interesting/tragic to see skooma dens in the scummier parts of Elsweyr. I could foresee ZOS’s lore-monkeys coming up with some dark, interesting commentary on the pitfalls of skooma addiction (we’ve seen bits of it in the game already). Just as long as it’s not glamorized as an amusing/fun side venture to get housing drug paraphernalia.
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    LurgidBean wrote: »
    Bouldercleave wrote: »
    SO, you guys freak out about the Crown Crates as being predatory and preying on people with gambling addictions, but it's perfectly ok with you to have the ESO equivalent of LSD addicts running around because "it'll be fun".


    You guys seriously have some *** up morality issues.

    Nobody is addicted to LSD, don't be silly. Not that I'd expect you to know that from your pedestal of morality.
    Talking about addiction in a video game probably would be a bit cringey, or it could be good public discourse on a societal topic.

    Skooma seems much more like Heroin to me, that whole addict-for-life thing. Plus, skooma dens look like a trap house.

    Because that is so much better...
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    Bouldercleave wrote: »
    SO, you guys freak out about the Crown Crates as being predatory and preying on people with gambling addictions, but it's perfectly ok with you to have the ESO equivalent of LSD addicts running around because "it'll be fun".


    You guys seriously have some *** up morality issues.

    I don't think merely seeing a fictional drug users drives anyone to do LSD. However lootboxes do trigger the same impulses as gambling.

    So while I don't have a problem with either (unless we are talking kids but this is not a kids game), I'd be totally cool with someone having a different stance for each thing.
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    LurgidBean wrote: »
    Bouldercleave wrote: »
    SO, you guys freak out about the Crown Crates as being predatory and preying on people with gambling addictions, but it's perfectly ok with you to have the ESO equivalent of LSD addicts running around because "it'll be fun".


    You guys seriously have some *** up morality issues.

    Nobody is addicted to LSD, don't be silly. Not that I'd expect you to know that from your pedestal of morality.
    Talking about addiction in a video game probably would be a bit cringey, or it could be good public discourse on a societal topic.

    Skooma seems much more like Heroin to me, that whole addict-for-life thing. Plus, skooma dens look like a trap house.

    I do think it would be quite interesting/tragic to see skooma dens in the scummier parts of Elsweyr. I could foresee ZOS’s lore-monkeys coming up with some dark, interesting commentary on the pitfalls of skooma addiction (we’ve seen bits of it in the game already). Just as long as it’s not glamorized as an amusing/fun side venture to get housing drug paraphernalia.

    We can already pickpocket drunks for Skooma bubblers. I wouldn't mind some Moon Sugar related furniture items.
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    Androconium wrote: »
    I dont agree that Alcohol Use Disorder and homelessness needs to be portrayed here, in game in the first place.
    It makes it acceptable.

    Including drug use in game, causes complications with game classifications in other countries.
    In case anyone cares about that.

    Well, maybe Animal Crossing will come out with an MMORPG for you to play. You agreed to play an 18+ game when you e-signed the TOS, just like all us other racially biased, murdering for gold, drunken and skooma addled Tamriellians.
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    You agreed to play an 18+ game when you e-signed the TOS, just like all us other racially biased, murdering for gold, drunken and skooma addled Tamriellians.

    Right? It's not like I am asking for this in a kid's game. Why does it have to he that dark or terrible?
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Bring more addicts to Tamriel
    But... we already -had- the Summerset expansion full of high Elves...
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    ...

    Joking aside, we had some nice skoome related questings back in Khenarthis Roost, and I see no reason why there should not be a few more here and there. But... as mentioned, we -did- have some already, so... I would not put much stake into this, but it ought to be at least a few kitties that overindulged in some "outlaw" places, right?
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Jaraal wrote: »
    You agreed to play an 18+ game when you e-signed the TOS, just like all us other racially biased, murdering for gold, drunken and skooma addled Tamriellians.

    Right? It's not like I am asking for this in a kid's game. Why does it have to he that dark or terrible?

    Because its already dark and terrible in the lore. The concept of addiction by biological dependency is not something to take lightheartedly
    If you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.
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