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Housing - Increase Slots
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Thoughts? Is there a reason to them being limited? Would you buy them if they were sold in the crown store?
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Housing - Increase Slots 42 votes
Yes, I'll spend money!
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24 votes
Maybe
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8 votes
No
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I'd rather gamble!
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Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭IF you did a search you would have found numerous threads on the topic.
It has been talked about a lot.
As mentioned on an ESO Live show:
They (ZoS head developer) stated that they cant increase slots at this time due to limitations on the number of interactable items that can be in an instance and not lag the computer, console. They stated its mosly lower end computers and consoles that are the main limitation. They would love to give us more slots but dont know if or when they will be able to, if ever.
Edited by Katahdin on April 13, 2019 3:32AMBeta tester November 20135 -
redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭IF you did a search you would have found numerous threads on the topic.
It has been talked about a lot.
As mentioned on an ESO Live show:
They (ZoS head developer) stated that they cant increase slots at this time due to limitations on the number of interactable items that can be in an instance and not lag the computer, console. They stated its mosly lower end computers and consoles that are the main limitation. They would love to give us more slots but dont know if or when they will be able to, if ever.
Agreed. No matter how much we ask. If there is a technical limitation, it won't be done.0 -
Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I don't really want to say I'd "spend money", as I've already spent more than enough money, for now.
Housing is a very expensive part of the game, unless you are very frugal and never buy any Crown Store-only items.
I feel like this is something that should be added as a complimentary thing, on the assumption that housing already more than pulls its weight, in terms of bringing in money and would do so even more, if there were more slots made available to fill.Edited by Tigerseye on April 13, 2019 3:37AM2 -
Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭IF you did a search you would have found numerous threads on the topic.
It has been talked about a lot.
As mentioned on an ESO Live show:
They (ZoS head developer) stated that they cant increase slots at this time due to limitations on the number of interactable items that can be in an instance and not lag the computer, console. They stated its mosly lower end computers and consoles that are the main limitation. They would love to give us more slots but dont know if or when they will be able to, if ever.
They could however, presumably, make the existing slots more flexible?
So, they could allow us to place more traditional furnishings, if we forewent placing some, or all, trophies and/or statuettes.
Rather than having set limits for each category, they could allow us to place what we wanted, up to the same overall limit.
They could even limit the traditional furnishings, that were placed instead of trophies/statuettes, to non-interactable ones, if they needed to.
Edited by Tigerseye on April 13, 2019 3:53AM2 -
Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭IF you did a search you would have found numerous threads on the topic.
It has been talked about a lot.
As mentioned on an ESO Live show:
They (ZoS head developer) stated that they cant increase slots at this time due to limitations on the number of interactable items that can be in an instance and not lag the computer, console. They stated its mosly lower end computers and consoles that are the main limitation. They would love to give us more slots but dont know if or when they will be able to, if ever.
They could however, presumably, make the existing slots more flexible?
So, they could allow us to place more traditional furnishings, if we forewent placing some, or all, trophies and/or statuettes.
Rather than having set limits for each category, they could allow us to place what we wanted, up to the same overall limit.
Theoretically yes they could just have 700 slots for a manor for ESO+ and let you place 700 objects periodBeta tester November 20131 -
Casterial✭✭✭✭✭
✭IF you did a search you would have found numerous threads on the topic.
It has been talked about a lot.
As mentioned on an ESO Live show:
They (ZoS head developer) stated that they cant increase slots at this time due to limitations on the number of interactable items that can be in an instance and not lag the computer, console. They stated its mosly lower end computers and consoles that are the main limitation. They would love to give us more slots but dont know if or when they will be able to, if ever.
How low end? Lol..? Worlds have 1000s of items.Daggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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freespirit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, I'll spend money!I would certainly pay for more space...…. and I hate buying Crown Store items even though I get my monthly free Crowns!
As to the reasons they cannot give us more slots, the probable impact on performance, there is a solution that would make me happy...…
MAKE THE DAMN HOUSES SMALLER!!!
Give us smaller areas to fill with our 700 slots...… big is not always beautiful!
When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!3 -
FuriousStar✭✭✭Not sure I'd like to be referred to as a lvl 3 hoarder, but.... heck, give me more room!
Err, I mean, please?2 -
Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭IF you did a search you would have found numerous threads on the topic.
It has been talked about a lot.
As mentioned on an ESO Live show:
They (ZoS head developer) stated that they cant increase slots at this time due to limitations on the number of interactable items that can be in an instance and not lag the computer, console. They stated its mosly lower end computers and consoles that are the main limitation. They would love to give us more slots but dont know if or when they will be able to, if ever.
How low end? Lol..? Worlds have 1000s of items.
Yes but they are not all interactable, that is the key. An interactable item has a greater cost to render and store than a non interactable one.Beta tester November 20130 -
Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭IF you did a search you would have found numerous threads on the topic.
It has been talked about a lot.
As mentioned on an ESO Live show:
They (ZoS head developer) stated that they cant increase slots at this time due to limitations on the number of interactable items that can be in an instance and not lag the computer, console. They stated its mosly lower end computers and consoles that are the main limitation. They would love to give us more slots but dont know if or when they will be able to, if ever.
They could however, presumably, make the existing slots more flexible?
So, they could allow us to place more traditional furnishings, if we forewent placing some, or all, trophies and/or statuettes.
Rather than having set limits for each category, they could allow us to place what we wanted, up to the same overall limit.
Theoretically yes they could just have 700 slots for a manor for ESO+ and let you place 700 objects period
Well, no, it would be more than that wouldn't it?
Because you currently have your 700 Traditional Furnishings slots, as standard (with ESO+), and then you have your separate trophy and statuette limits, over and above that 700.
In other words, even when you have placed 700 Traditional Furnishing items, you can still continue to place things like trophies and statuettes.
In my palace, I can place 700 Traditional Furnishings and then up to 110 Collectible Furnishings and 10 Special Furnishings over and above that.
So, I'm suggesting that, if someone doesn't want to place any (or all) trophies and/or statuettes in their home, they should be able to swap them out for the same number of (non-interactable) Traditional Furnishings.
Over and above the 700 limit.Edited by Tigerseye on April 13, 2019 4:09AM2 -
Casterial✭✭✭✭✭
✭IF you did a search you would have found numerous threads on the topic.
It has been talked about a lot.
As mentioned on an ESO Live show:
They (ZoS head developer) stated that they cant increase slots at this time due to limitations on the number of interactable items that can be in an instance and not lag the computer, console. They stated its mosly lower end computers and consoles that are the main limitation. They would love to give us more slots but dont know if or when they will be able to, if ever.
How low end? Lol..? Worlds have 1000s of items.
Yes but they are not all interactable, that is the key. An interactable item has a greater cost to render and store than a non interactable one.
But this is an extreme edge case, no ones house has over 10000 intractable, and if thats the case you can limit intractable.Daggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭IF you did a search you would have found numerous threads on the topic.
It has been talked about a lot.
As mentioned on an ESO Live show:
They (ZoS head developer) stated that they cant increase slots at this time due to limitations on the number of interactable items that can be in an instance and not lag the computer, console. They stated its mosly lower end computers and consoles that are the main limitation. They would love to give us more slots but dont know if or when they will be able to, if ever.
They could however, presumably, make the existing slots more flexible?
So, they could allow us to place more traditional furnishings, if we forewent placing some, or all, trophies and/or statuettes.
Rather than having set limits for each category, they could allow us to place what we wanted, up to the same overall limit.
Theoretically yes they could just have 700 slots for a manor for ESO+ and let you place 700 objects period
Well, no, it would be more than that wouldn't it?
Because you currently have your 700 Traditional Furnishings slots, as standard (with ESO+), and then you have your separate trophy and statuette limits, over and above that 700.
In other words, even when you have placed 700 Traditional Furnishing items, you can still continue to place things like trophies and statuettes.
In my palace, I can place 700 Traditional Furnishings and then up to 110 Collectible Furnishings and 10 Special Furnishings over and above that.
So, I'm suggesting that, if someone doesn't want to place any (or all) trophies and/or statuettes in their home, they should be able to swap them out for the same number of (non-interactable) Traditional Furnishings.
Over and above the 700 limit.
No. The current limit is 700 or slightly above 700 to allow for a cushion so it would just be 700 periodBeta tester November 20130 -
Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭IF you did a search you would have found numerous threads on the topic.
It has been talked about a lot.
As mentioned on an ESO Live show:
They (ZoS head developer) stated that they cant increase slots at this time due to limitations on the number of interactable items that can be in an instance and not lag the computer, console. They stated its mosly lower end computers and consoles that are the main limitation. They would love to give us more slots but dont know if or when they will be able to, if ever.
How low end? Lol..? Worlds have 1000s of items.
Yes but they are not all interactable, that is the key. An interactable item has a greater cost to render and store than a non interactable one.
But this is an extreme edge case, no ones house has over 10000 intractable, and if thats the case you can limit intractable.
Every object a player puts in a house is interactable. Thats 700 per manor with ESO+.
Look, I am not going to get into a debate about this. I have just stated what the devs said about why they cant increase slots.
You can try arguing with them about it.
Edited by Katahdin on April 13, 2019 4:48AMBeta tester November 20130 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MaybeI already pay a monthly fee for 50% of my housing slots. Whether I would pay for more depends on the price.1 -
Casterial✭✭✭✭✭
✭IF you did a search you would have found numerous threads on the topic.
It has been talked about a lot.
As mentioned on an ESO Live show:
They (ZoS head developer) stated that they cant increase slots at this time due to limitations on the number of interactable items that can be in an instance and not lag the computer, console. They stated its mosly lower end computers and consoles that are the main limitation. They would love to give us more slots but dont know if or when they will be able to, if ever.
How low end? Lol..? Worlds have 1000s of items.
Yes but they are not all interactable, that is the key. An interactable item has a greater cost to render and store than a non interactable one.
But this is an extreme edge case, no ones house has over 10000 intractable, and if thats the case you can limit intractable.
Every object a player puts in a house is interactable. Thats 700 per manor with ESO+.
Look, I am not going to get into a debate about this. I have just stated what the devs said about why they cant increase slots.
You can try arguing with them about it.
Oh because every object is movable around? While world is static? ah.. okay, well at 700 I sit at 130 fps on ultra with 90 ping! time to ditch the scrub pcs!Daggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭IF you did a search you would have found numerous threads on the topic.
It has been talked about a lot.
As mentioned on an ESO Live show:
They (ZoS head developer) stated that they cant increase slots at this time due to limitations on the number of interactable items that can be in an instance and not lag the computer, console. They stated its mosly lower end computers and consoles that are the main limitation. They would love to give us more slots but dont know if or when they will be able to, if ever.
They could however, presumably, make the existing slots more flexible?
So, they could allow us to place more traditional furnishings, if we forewent placing some, or all, trophies and/or statuettes.
Rather than having set limits for each category, they could allow us to place what we wanted, up to the same overall limit.
Theoretically yes they could just have 700 slots for a manor for ESO+ and let you place 700 objects period
Well, no, it would be more than that wouldn't it?
Because you currently have your 700 Traditional Furnishings slots, as standard (with ESO+), and then you have your separate trophy and statuette limits, over and above that 700.
In other words, even when you have placed 700 Traditional Furnishing items, you can still continue to place things like trophies and statuettes.
In my palace, I can place 700 Traditional Furnishings and then up to 110 Collectible Furnishings and 10 Special Furnishings over and above that.
So, I'm suggesting that, if someone doesn't want to place any (or all) trophies and/or statuettes in their home, they should be able to swap them out for the same number of (non-interactable) Traditional Furnishings.
Over and above the 700 limit.
No. The current limit is 700 or slightly above 700 to allow for a cushion so it would just be 700 period
No, it's not.
You have 700 Traditional Furnishing slots.
Once you have reached that limit, you can still place trophies and statuettes.
They show up as "Collectible Furnishings".
Try it for yourself.
Fill your house with Traditional Furnishings (but no statuettes, or trophies), until you reach the limit and are no longer allowed to place any more Traditional Furnishings.
Then (and only then) place some trophies and/or statuettes.
It will allow you to.
I know this for a fact, because I have literally just done it myself.Edited by Tigerseye on April 13, 2019 5:16AM2 -
Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭By the way, the reason I know this and was able to double check it so quickly, is because I have several full (600/600 and 700/700) houses and I don't normally place trophies.
So, I was able to just hop in there and immediately place multiple trophies, in otherwise already "full" houses.IF you did a search you would have found numerous threads on the topic.
It has been talked about a lot.
As mentioned on an ESO Live show:
They (ZoS head developer) stated that they cant increase slots at this time due to limitations on the number of interactable items that can be in an instance and not lag the computer, console. They stated its mosly lower end computers and consoles that are the main limitation. They would love to give us more slots but dont know if or when they will be able to, if ever.
How low end? Lol..? Worlds have 1000s of items.
Yes but they are not all interactable, that is the key. An interactable item has a greater cost to render and store than a non interactable one.
But this is an extreme edge case, no ones house has over 10000 intractable, and if thats the case you can limit intractable.
Every object a player puts in a house is interactable. Thats 700 per manor with ESO+.
Look, I am not going to get into a debate about this. I have just stated what the devs said about why they cant increase slots.
You can try arguing with them about it.
Again, no.
Some objects (like lights) are classed as interactable (because, in the case of lights, you can switch them on and off).
While others, like tables, are not.
You, clearly, don't know what you're talking about.
If I were you, I'd stop sounding so sure about stuff I didn't know about.
It's misleading.Edited by Tigerseye on April 13, 2019 5:42AM3 -
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✭✭On the debate of regular items vs interactables and animated items, @Elara_Northwind did a very good test that shows how better application of limits could actually allow us place significantly more objects than the current limit.
Essentially, replacing the trophy limit with a limit on interactables and animated objects. These items take up far more processing power than say, a plate. So from testing, it would appear that limiting those items, may allow placement of way more regular items.
Perhaps the approach should be to set the limit at 2000 "units" but different items have different units. So a simple dinner plate is 1 unit but the animated and interactable Alinor Grand Fountain is 5 units... or something like that.
Also, and this has been asked for many times, large manors could be given separate load cells for interior and exterior locations. Sure, this would generate a load screen, but I think as an option, even on just one new house, I think MANY people would happily take it.
Here's Elara's video for anyone interested. It's well worth watching.
https://youtu.be/pbeShaiqtcI
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Jamdarius✭✭✭✭✭redspecter23 wrote: »IF you did a search you would have found numerous threads on the topic.
It has been talked about a lot.
As mentioned on an ESO Live show:
They (ZoS head developer) stated that they cant increase slots at this time due to limitations on the number of interactable items that can be in an instance and not lag the computer, console. They stated its mosly lower end computers and consoles that are the main limitation. They would love to give us more slots but dont know if or when they will be able to, if ever.
Agreed. No matter how much we ask. If there is a technical limitation, it won't be done.
It is not techical limitation of the game engine, it is technical limitation of player base, a lot of them do not use high spec PC's.
So to allow them to enjoy one of the best aspects of the game, they had to limit how many items we can slot.0 -
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✭Fang_of_Lorkhaj wrote: »TAKE MY CROWNS NOW
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kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭By the way, the reason I know this and was able to double check it so quickly, is because I have several full (600/600 and 700/700) houses and I don't normally place trophies.
So, I was able to just hop in there and immediately place multiple trophies, in otherwise already "full" houses.IF you did a search you would have found numerous threads on the topic.
It has been talked about a lot.
As mentioned on an ESO Live show:
They (ZoS head developer) stated that they cant increase slots at this time due to limitations on the number of interactable items that can be in an instance and not lag the computer, console. They stated its mosly lower end computers and consoles that are the main limitation. They would love to give us more slots but dont know if or when they will be able to, if ever.
How low end? Lol..? Worlds have 1000s of items.
Yes but they are not all interactable, that is the key. An interactable item has a greater cost to render and store than a non interactable one.
But this is an extreme edge case, no ones house has over 10000 intractable, and if thats the case you can limit intractable.
Every object a player puts in a house is interactable. Thats 700 per manor with ESO+.
Look, I am not going to get into a debate about this. I have just stated what the devs said about why they cant increase slots.
You can try arguing with them about it.
Again, no.
Some objects (like lights) are classed as interactable (because, in the case of lights, you can switch them on and off).
While others, like tables, are not.
You, clearly, don't know what you're talking about.
If I were you, I'd stop sounding so sure about stuff I didn't know about.
It's misleading.
All the furniture in your home is interactable with each other. This means each piece can be moved separate of every other piece. Out in the world a table with plates, cups and food is one object. In your home it is probably closer to twenty objects. Each object can be moved independent of the others and that is where the problems come in when you get to many objects.
Each piece of furniture is also interactable in the sense that a player can move (with permissions) furniture anywhere they wish. Outside the home there is much less the player can interact with.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."0